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Post by st3mark on May 15, 2024 20:41:14 GMT
God knows when it started.
But the outgoings of Walters, Whelan, Huth and Arnautovic were all massive blows in different ways on and off the pitch.
And the following incomings and loans were all disastrous:
Imbula
Zouma
Wimmer
Berahino
Allen (cursed)
Jese
Then once down, Afobe, Ince, Woods, Etebo, Votes, Martina,
Although McLean and Clucas had a good season each they both turned out financial disasters as well.
God this has depressed me.
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 15, 2024 21:20:09 GMT
Hughes took over a reasonably good team that Pulis had built. As he replaced players the rot set in. He has form:
Mark Hughes' 20 Man City signings and what happened to them
Mark Hughes’ agent Kia Joorabchian has distanced himself from the majority of his client’s flop signings, who were widely accredited with dooming Queens Park Rangers to relegation.
QPR made 16 signings during Hughes’ time with the west Londoners but few of them were successful.
Bad signings the key to Mark Hughes’ demise at Stoke
Who gives a flying bollock what transfers he made at Man City and QPR? The discussion is purely based on his time at Stoke. I think the point the poster was making was that his contribution in transfer dealings prior to coming to Stoke and in particular his tenure at QPR should have been at least an amber if not red flag warning. |
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Post by thisisouryear on May 15, 2024 21:30:53 GMT
The rot set in when Rudge left
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Post by NassauDave on May 16, 2024 2:08:46 GMT
Hughes being given too long, then that arrogant twat Rowett.
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Post by theonlooker on May 16, 2024 5:57:28 GMT
The rot set in when Rudge left Not many people would give that much credit with the obvious history of him, but there might be more than a shred of truth in that. I'm convinced we need that type of figure at the top of the club now, helping calm everything down and guide everyone down the right path. |
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Post by redstriper on May 16, 2024 6:23:53 GMT
We definitely started to decline after the Liverpool semi final that we lost. Mystifying really. Perhaps some of our players didn't give 100% after that because we had a decent squad. I don't blame Hughes, relegation happens. We had 10 good years under Pulis and Hughes in a league where realistically only about a dozen clubs are in danger of relegation. Time to look forward not back Agree with this, losing that penalty shoot out was a shot in the guts, we lost our momentum at that point. Ironic that Joe Allen scored a penalty, for them. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 16, 2024 8:30:30 GMT
2 key mistakes have cost us big time:
Not sacking Hughes the summer before we were relegated.
Once we were relegated the decision to sign Gary fucking Rowett, giving him all that money to spend which subsequently blew our chances of promotion for years after.
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Post by Pugsley on May 16, 2024 8:41:01 GMT
Who gives a flying bollock what transfers he made at Man City and QPR? The discussion is purely based on his time at Stoke. I think the point the poster was making was that his contribution in transfer dealings prior to coming to Stoke and in particular his tenure at QPR should have been at least an amber if not red flag warning. We'd never employee any Manager if we're looking at things like that. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 16, 2024 10:34:22 GMT
I think the point the poster was making was that his contribution in transfer dealings prior to coming to Stoke and in particular his tenure at QPR should have been at least an amber if not red flag warning. We'd never employee any Manager if we're looking at things like that. I wouldn’t fully agree Pugs, but appreciate your thoughts. However at Stoke I think he was party to over 30 incoming transfers and you’d have to consider the value (not particularly money) that the vast majority added to the squad on and off the pitch. Part of the problem, all if’s, but’s and history now. |
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Post by mickstupp on May 16, 2024 10:51:12 GMT
We’re much better off looking forward. We had a good run, lost the plot and now we’ve got to try and get back up there. It was always going to happen a some stage.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 16, 2024 11:22:04 GMT
When Pulis left 😉😗
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Post by Eggybread on May 16, 2024 14:15:19 GMT
When we lost to Liverpool in the cup,everything since has been downhill.
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Post by thisisouryear on May 16, 2024 16:37:17 GMT
The rot set in when Rudge left Not many people would give that much credit with the obvious history of him, but there might be more than a shred of truth in that. I'm convinced we need that type of figure at the top of the club now, helping calm everything down and guide everyone down the right path. For a fully functioning club you have to have someone upstairs knitting everything together. We had a solid base when Hughes became manager down to Pulis and Rudge and it slowly crumbled behind the scenes upstairs and then it made its way onto the pitch over the next few years when that solid base had disappeared. This wasn't something that happened overnight, Hughes had some success because he managed to get some players in to compliment the solid spine we had, but once that went the dressing room and everything went. Hughes needed someone with a lot more experience above him who could have guided and challenged him where necessary. Had we had that we probably wouldn't have needed to sack him, he wasn't a bad manager just one who lacked enough knowledge on how to build a team and the blocks you MUST have in place to hold everything together and what those blocks look like. I really hope Walters is more of the Pulis mould because with a flair manager like Schumacher that could be very successful. I've always thought between Hughes and Pulis they would create a great team as what they both bring creates a great balance as we saw in the Stokelona days. Hughes needed a Pulis/Rudge type around him, he would probably be very successful if he did. |
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Post by cvillestokie on May 16, 2024 22:42:13 GMT
When John Coates starting stepping up and his Dad started stepping down.
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