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Post by prestwichpotter on May 9, 2024 11:09:46 GMT
The club have big plans for this lad, signed his first professional deal today. A loan next season or is it better he's in an around the first team squad with the occasional spot on the bench?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 9, 2024 11:11:14 GMT
I’d say loan given as he’s only just starting playing for the u21s.
Never seen him play so it’s interesting to see if the hype is real.
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Post by greystokie on May 9, 2024 11:14:59 GMT
What position does he play?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 9, 2024 11:15:40 GMT
Watched him against Arsenal live the other week and despite giving a penalty away he looked a very decent prospect on the night.All his family members were there watching him too and he was a very accommodating young man who had his photo took with my youngest granddaughter.
I would say a loan may suit him and get him used to the physicality of league football
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 9, 2024 11:15:57 GMT
What position does he play? Centre half |
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Post by etebojan on May 9, 2024 11:16:31 GMT
saw quite a few of the U21 games, Dixon and Sidibe stood out as being the two with the most potential to push on by quite a margin
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Post by LGH87 on May 9, 2024 11:17:04 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 9, 2024 11:23:00 GMT
I’d say loan given as he’s only just starting playing for the u21s. Never seen him play so it’s interesting to see if the hype is real. Problem with loan deals is if they're not getting regular game time which of course is not guaranteed. You want the level to be decent but the higher the division the less game time potentially. In that scenario they'd be better off playing for the under-21's and training predominantly with the first team. Also be interesting to see how close to the first team squad Baker and Okagbue are next season, or whether they will go out on loan again? Much better to have these players in the building rather than deadwood like Ciaran Clark |
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Post by cvillestokie on May 9, 2024 11:34:32 GMT
If he went on loan, it should be to the Vale. He’s 17. He’ll still be in school and won’t be able to drive yet.
If not ready for league 2, put home somewhere local a division or two lower. I think that the National League Prem allows for 1-3 month loans. Such a deal seems ideal for young players. Give them experience of senior football then bring them back and help them build on what they’ve learned。
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 9, 2024 11:48:59 GMT
I’d say loan given as he’s only just starting playing for the u21s. Never seen him play so it’s interesting to see if the hype is real. Problem with loan deals is if they're not getting regular game time which of course is not guaranteed. You want the level to be decent but the higher the division the less game time potentially. In that scenario they'd be better off playing for the under-21's and training predominantly with the first team. Also be interesting to see how close to the first team squad Baker and Okagbue are next season, or whether they will go out on loan again? Much better to have these players in the building rather than deadwood like Ciaran Clark You’d expect Okagbue to be given that sort of remit though. But does depend on where they think each are. Next season seems too soon for Dixon though. So if he can get a league two loan he’s doing well imo. |
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Post by scfcadams on May 9, 2024 11:54:33 GMT
Not sure a loan would be good eligibility wise. He’ll be here next season
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Post by march4 on May 9, 2024 12:14:42 GMT
Excellent news.
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Post by yellowsnowman on May 9, 2024 12:18:47 GMT
This is great news congratulations Jaden!
UTMP
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 9, 2024 12:34:20 GMT
Didnt he make the bench at some point this season? I seem to recall a picture of his kit in the dressing room
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Post by Los Alfareros on May 9, 2024 12:49:45 GMT
Is he a local youth??
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Post by Northy on May 9, 2024 12:58:36 GMT
He came from Tottenham Hotspurs |
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Post by J-Roar on May 9, 2024 12:59:46 GMT
He came from Tottenham Hotspurs He's one of their own? |
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Post by Northy on May 9, 2024 13:06:56 GMT
He came from Tottenham Hotspurs He's one of their own? Dunno, that's where he was before he joined us. |
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Post by nottsover60 on May 9, 2024 15:00:22 GMT
I’d say loan given as he’s only just starting playing for the u21s. Never seen him play so it’s interesting to see if the hype is real. No way can I see him loaned out if you read the article. He is a Shawcross protegee and obviously one of the reasons he has signed is for his mentoring. As he's only just 17 I can see him staying here until Christmas at least to continue his progression in the u21's and to see how close he can get to the first team having been in the squad at just turned 16 last year. He talks about being appreciated and trusted, and being told how good he is and what his pathway will be, coming in everyday and knowing the people around him. I can't see a loan being top of his priorities and the reason why a lot of young players like him are not happy at the top clubs. Whatever is decided I am sure Shawcross has discussed it with him and Jayden will be happy with it. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 9, 2024 15:08:50 GMT
I’d say loan given as he’s only just starting playing for the u21s. Never seen him play so it’s interesting to see if the hype is real. No way can I see him loaned out if you read the article. He is a Shawcross protegee and obviously one of the reasons he has signed is for his mentoring. As he's only just 17 I can see him staying here until Christmas at least to continue his progression in the u21's and to see how close he can get to the first team having been in the squad at just turned 16 last year. He talks about being appreciated and trusted, and being told how good he is and what his pathway will be, coming in everyday and knowing the people around him. I can't see a loan being top of his priorities and the reason why a lot of young players like him are not happy at the top clubs. Whatever is decided I am sure Shawcross has discussed it with him and Jayden will be happy with it. A loan makes more sense. He needs to the game time and needs it sooner rather than later imo. |
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Post by cvillestokie on May 9, 2024 15:30:59 GMT
I’d say loan given as he’s only just starting playing for the u21s. Never seen him play so it’s interesting to see if the hype is real. No way can I see him loaned out if you read the article. He is a Shawcross protegee and obviously one of the reasons he has signed is for his mentoring. As he's only just 17 I can see him staying here until Christmas at least to continue his progression in the u21's and to see how close he can get to the first team having been in the squad at just turned 16 last year. He talks about being appreciated and trusted, and being told how good he is and what his pathway will be, coming in everyday and knowing the people around him. I can't see a loan being top of his priorities and the reason why a lot of young players like him are not happy at the top clubs. Whatever is decided I am sure Shawcross has discussed it with him and Jayden will be happy with it. If a lot of young players aren’t happy at top clubs, constantly accepting new and improved deals and heading out on loan is a funny way of showing it 😂 |
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Post by walrus on May 9, 2024 15:41:18 GMT
It’s very unlikely that players under 18 will go out on a proper full time loan arrangement as there are a lot of safeguarding concerns these days as they’re technically minors. They’re not even allowed to share a changing room with adult teammates.
It’s essentially too much hassle to be worth doing. So he’ll play for the U23s for a year and maybe get a loan next season if his development continues on the same trajectory.
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Post by nottsover60 on May 9, 2024 16:56:49 GMT
No way can I see him loaned out if you read the article. He is a Shawcross protegee and obviously one of the reasons he has signed is for his mentoring. As he's only just 17 I can see him staying here until Christmas at least to continue his progression in the u21's and to see how close he can get to the first team having been in the squad at just turned 16 last year. He talks about being appreciated and trusted, and being told how good he is and what his pathway will be, coming in everyday and knowing the people around him. I can't see a loan being top of his priorities and the reason why a lot of young players like him are not happy at the top clubs. Whatever is decided I am sure Shawcross has discussed it with him and Jayden will be happy with it. If a lot of young players aren’t happy at top clubs, constantly accepting new and improved deals and heading out on loan is a funny way of showing it 😂 Perhaps I should have said what a lot of those who leave top academies do not like. A number who have come to Stoke have referenced feeling like they belong and matter and having a clear route to the first team. |
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Post by clarkeda on May 11, 2024 7:39:43 GMT
If he went on loan, it should be to the Vale. He’s 17. He’ll still be in school and won’t be able to drive yet. If not ready for league 2, put home somewhere local a division or two lower. I think that the National League Prem allows for 1-3 month loans. Such a deal seems ideal for young players. Give them experience of senior football then bring them back and help them build on what they’ve learned。 I don’t know why we don’t use Nantwich, Crewe, Newcastle Town, Stafford Rangers etc. Not sure on Vale but I also don’t think the rivalry is what it was. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2024 8:03:17 GMT
If he went on loan, it should be to the Vale. He’s 17. He’ll still be in school and won’t be able to drive yet. If not ready for league 2, put home somewhere local a division or two lower. I think that the National League Prem allows for 1-3 month loans. Such a deal seems ideal for young players. Give them experience of senior football then bring them back and help them build on what they’ve learned。 I don’t know why we don’t use Nantwich, Crewe, Newcastle Town, Stafford Rangers etc. Not sure on Vale but I also don’t think the rivalry is what it was. We do (minus Crewe). Had players on loan at the others either this or last season. |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 20, 2024 8:02:16 GMT
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Post by LGH87 on May 20, 2024 8:21:24 GMT
Only one double barrelled surname which surprises me. The fad must've worn off in 2008. |
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Post by foxysgloves on May 20, 2024 8:31:49 GMT
Only one double barrelled surname which surprises me. The fad must've worn off in 2008. Forget that. Oliver Whatmuff!!??? Seriously. With a name like that thank god he’s good at footy. |
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Post by emretezzy on May 20, 2024 8:40:10 GMT
Keep an eye out for Chris Rigg out of this age group. Absolutely quality. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 20, 2024 8:45:43 GMT
Only one double barrelled surname which surprises me. The fad must've worn off in 2008. The keepers names are straight outta Viz 😆 |
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