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Post by LGH87 on May 7, 2024 8:52:13 GMT
That's just not true at all. Jesus Hates Christ, Even the winky thing didn't give it away. I was using Bayern;s comment about Cundle back at him. Of course Mahoef hasn't been shit but then neither has Cundle. haha apologies, i didn't realise that was Rival's version of the Winky emoji, the weird mouth position made me think it was something else ha. |
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Post by Northy on May 7, 2024 8:56:23 GMT
I did. Totally overused here and quite frankly laughable he’s been mentioned about wanting to find a goalscorer 🤣 And tbh the last three home games have shown you can have the work and more talent. Junho and Manhoef are both much better footballers and still do the work needed. And don’t have it to compensate for other deficiencies either. You're comparing players playing against championship defenders, Walters played against premier league defenders, and scored a hat trick in the premier league, scored some crucial goals in games in league, cup and Europe for us, have a day off for a change. Who was the last Stoke player to score a hat trick for us, we were asking on Saturday at the game in case Million got one, but couldn't remember ? |
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Post by eddyclamp on May 7, 2024 9:04:38 GMT
I did. Totally overused here and quite frankly laughable he’s been mentioned about wanting to find a goalscorer 🤣 And tbh the last three home games have shown you can have the work and more talent. Junho and Manhoef are both much better footballers and still do the work needed. And don’t have it to compensate for other deficiencies either. You're comparing players playing against championship defenders, Walters played against premier league defenders, and scored a hat trick in the premier league, scored some crucial goals in games in league, cup and Europe for us, have a day off for a change. Who was the last Stoke player to score a hat trick for us, we were asking on Saturday at the game in case Million got one, but couldn't remember ? Think it was Liam Lawrence |
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Post by thebet365 on May 7, 2024 9:06:07 GMT
I did. Totally overused here and quite frankly laughable he’s been mentioned about wanting to find a goalscorer 🤣 And tbh the last three home games have shown you can have the work and more talent. Junho and Manhoef are both much better footballers and still do the work needed. And don’t have it to compensate for other deficiencies either. You're comparing players playing against championship defenders, Walters played against premier league defenders, and scored a hat trick in the premier league, scored some crucial goals in games in league, cup and Europe for us, have a day off for a change. Who was the last Stoke player to score a hat trick for us, we were asking on Saturday at the game in case Million got one, but couldn't remember ? Crouch got the last hat trick against Stevenage in the cup. Last league hat trick excluding Walters is Fuller & Lawrence 2007/2008 |
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Post by lagwafis on May 7, 2024 9:07:02 GMT
You're comparing players playing against championship defenders, Walters played against premier league defenders, and scored a hat trick in the premier league, scored some crucial goals in games in league, cup and Europe for us, have a day off for a change. Who was the last Stoke player to score a hat trick for us, we were asking on Saturday at the game in case Million got one, but couldn't remember ? Think it was Liam Lawrence Crouch in 2016, away at Stevenage in the cup Walters was the last hat trick at home vs QPR |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 7, 2024 9:39:21 GMT
That's just not true at all. Jesus Hates Christ, Even the winky thing didn't give it away. I was using Bayern;s comment about Cundle back at him. Of course Mahoef hasn't been shit but then neither has Cundle. Cundle has been shit. |
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Post by tqstokie on May 7, 2024 11:07:53 GMT
Jesus Hates Christ, Even the winky thing didn't give it away. I was using Bayern;s comment about Cundle back at him. Of course Mahoef hasn't been shit but then neither has Cundle. Cundle has been shit. Are you still on here trying to ram your unadulterated rubbish down everyones throat. Why don't you do us all a favour and go back to you crystal ball. You are becoming really arrogant, tedious ad nauseum. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on May 7, 2024 13:02:14 GMT
Based on what? He's never been a goal machine. We keep hearing this. I think the poster said 'turn into a goal machine', that is future, not past. He's 24 he's got time to develop and his record of 31 goals in 84 starts for us is not as bad as some make out. That itself is evidence that he is capable of 15 goals a season, if he can get fully fit, which is the big question with him. He only started 14 games this season and thats the main issue with him. He ain't going to contribute many goals if he's only playing less than a third of the season. You can say that about any striker Would rather base it on reality |
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Post by a on May 7, 2024 13:09:31 GMT
I think the poster said 'turn into a goal machine', that is future, not past. He's 24 he's got time to develop and his record of 31 goals in 84 starts for us is not as bad as some make out. That itself is evidence that he is capable of 15 goals a season, if he can get fully fit, which is the big question with him. He only started 14 games this season and thats the main issue with him. He ain't going to contribute many goals if he's only playing less than a third of the season. You can say that about any striker Would rather base it on reality To be fair his lack of games is the biggest problem with him. If he stayed fit hes a very good player at this level, but his injuries have made things very difficult, that's the way it was, maybe he'll go on to play more full seasons as he reaches his prime. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on May 7, 2024 13:15:42 GMT
You can say that about any striker Would rather base it on reality To be fair his lack of games is the biggest problem with him. If he stayed fit hes a very good player at this level, but his injuries have made things very difficult, that's the way it was, maybe he'll go on to play more full seasons as he reaches his prime. He's an ok striker and this...he's going to score 20/30 goals a season stuff is just figures plucked out of the air with no substance I agree he could be ok at this level but not this free scoring player ..he's just passed 30 goals in 6 seasons Of course when he does score we can expect a ..why did we sell him..told you so etc but if we signed a 4 goal a season striker tomorrow with his record of not playing games I doubt too many would be calling him a future 20 goal a season player |
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Post by a on May 7, 2024 13:21:53 GMT
To be fair his lack of games is the biggest problem with him. If he stayed fit hes a very good player at this level, but his injuries have made things very difficult, that's the way it was, maybe he'll go on to play more full seasons as he reaches his prime. He's an ok striker and this...he's going to score 20/30 goals a season stuff is just figures plucked out of the air with no substance I agree he could be ok at this level but not this free scoring player ..he's just passed 30 goals in 6 seasons Of course when he does score we can expect a ..why did we sell him..told you so etc but if we signed a 4 goal a season striker tomorrow with his record of not playing games I doubt too many would be calling him a future 20 goal a season player Over a full season he might get around 10 to 15 but yea I'm not suggesting anything like 20 or 30, that seems overly generous, but players can have a freak season but I doubt it. I'm intrigued to see where he ends up and how utilised he'll be |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 7, 2024 14:02:50 GMT
Could there be a compromise,with what he wanted to stay & what the club were willing to pay?
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 7, 2024 14:07:16 GMT
He's an ok striker and this...he's going to score 20/30 goals a season stuff is just figures plucked out of the air with no substance I agree he could be ok at this level but not this free scoring player ..he's just passed 30 goals in 6 seasons Of course when he does score we can expect a ..why did we sell him..told you so etc but if we signed a 4 goal a season striker tomorrow with his record of not playing games I doubt too many would be calling him a future 20 goal a season player Over a full season he might get around 10 to 15 but yea I'm not suggesting anything like 20 or 30, that seems overly generous, but players can have a freak season but I doubt it. I'm intrigued to see where he ends up and how utilised he'll be He’s had numerous years to get to the 10-15 bracket and failed. Yes he might suddenly get 15+, I genuinely hope he does. But the club has done the right thing looking at the last four years he’s been here, 6.25 goal average a season and a bumper salary. Got to be goodbye and a different approach |
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Post by stokieinlondon on May 7, 2024 14:11:59 GMT
Was TC the last of our premier league players?
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Post by spitthedog on May 7, 2024 14:16:35 GMT
To be fair his lack of games is the biggest problem with him. If he stayed fit hes a very good player at this level, but his injuries have made things very difficult, that's the way it was, maybe he'll go on to play more full seasons as he reaches his prime. He's an ok striker and this...he's going to score 20/30 goals a season stuff is just figures plucked out of the air with no substance I agree he could be ok at this level but not this free scoring player ..he's just passed 30 goals in 6 seasons Of course when he does score we can expect a ..why did we sell him..told you so etc but if we signed a 4 goal a season striker tomorrow with his record of not playing games I doubt too many would be calling him a future 20 goal a season player Why do you and others keep repeating this goals in 6 seasons nonsense? The first of that 6 he was at loan at Shrewsbury, no wonder he found it difficult to score for us! He did start the last 2 games of that season I grant you. You might as well say 7 seasons if you include his youth record! In the 5 seasons he's been playing for us he missed 2.5 of those with injuries. He's had 2 seasons where he started in only just over 10 games for us. I know you don't like him much, and as Ive said before, that's fine, but the 30 goals in 6 seasons stat is a blatant distortion of what has happened in his career at Stoke if you look closer at the stats The main problem with Campbell is clearly his fitness, having not yet reached 100 starts in his league career yet, yet 31 goals in those games puts a completely different complexion on things. Will he score over 20 goals in a season? I doubt it because very few players do at this level, and they tend to be in their late 20s, that is, experienced players. 15 goals should be achievable for him though if he stays fit. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on May 7, 2024 14:16:39 GMT
He's an ok striker and this...he's going to score 20/30 goals a season stuff is just figures plucked out of the air with no substance I agree he could be ok at this level but not this free scoring player ..he's just passed 30 goals in 6 seasons Of course when he does score we can expect a ..why did we sell him..told you so etc but if we signed a 4 goal a season striker tomorrow with his record of not playing games I doubt too many would be calling him a future 20 goal a season player Over a full season he might get around 10 to 15 but yea I'm not suggesting anything like 20 or 30, that seems overly generous, but players can have a freak season but I doubt it. I'm intrigued to see where he ends up and how utilised he'll be Very few players hit 15 goals plus Is a player there but our problem is a goalscorer, well one problen, and he isn't the answer for me. |
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Post by mickstupp on May 7, 2024 14:33:05 GMT
Over a full season he might get around 10 to 15 but yea I'm not suggesting anything like 20 or 30, that seems overly generous, but players can have a freak season but I doubt it. I'm intrigued to see where he ends up and how utilised he'll be He’s had numerous years to get to the 10-15 bracket and failed. Yes he might suddenly get 15+, I genuinely hope he does. But the club has done the right thing looking at the last four years he’s been here, 6.25 goal average a season and a bumper salary. Got to be goodbye and a different approach A bumper salary? I doubt it. He was only just emerging into the first team when he signed the deal that’s about to expire. 6.25 goals per season is a misleading stat also because he was out injured for 12 months. Campbell gets a goal every 260 minutes he’s been on the pitch for Stoke, just less than one every three games. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 7, 2024 14:48:39 GMT
Over a full season he might get around 10 to 15 but yea I'm not suggesting anything like 20 or 30, that seems overly generous, but players can have a freak season but I doubt it. I'm intrigued to see where he ends up and how utilised he'll be He’s had numerous years to get to the 10-15 bracket and failed. Yes he might suddenly get 15+, I genuinely hope he does. But the club has done the right thing looking at the last four years he’s been here, 6.25 goal average a season and a bumper salary. Got to be goodbye and a different approach Not sure who it was on here but someone smarter than me put a bit of evidence together that seemed to show that very few championship strikers hit 20 plus goals until they are 25/26 years old. If true I'd hate to think we let him go now and suddenly he starts rattling them in for one of our rivals 😔 I'd have kept him personally if possible. And I've been quite critical of him over the years... |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on May 7, 2024 15:10:37 GMT
Was TC the last of our premier league players? Tom Edwards? Gouranga.  |
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Post by a on May 7, 2024 15:36:51 GMT
Was TC the last of our premier league players? Tom Edwards Sorry Albert, missed your post but yea Tedwards or the ol Tedwardinho is another. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 7, 2024 15:45:24 GMT
Are you still on here trying to ram your unadulterated rubbish down everyones throat. Why don't you do us all a favour and go back to you crystal ball. You are becoming really arrogant, tedious ad nauseum. Give up mate. A very wise man once said ‘Never argue with a stupid person because they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience’. Bayern is living proof of the accuracy of those words of wisdom. |
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Post by TinkerT on May 7, 2024 16:38:21 GMT
Don't believe everything you read on social media. He WAS offered a deal and we had positive talks it was going be signed, then it went on and on and on..
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 7, 2024 17:30:44 GMT
He’s had numerous years to get to the 10-15 bracket and failed. Yes he might suddenly get 15+, I genuinely hope he does. But the club has done the right thing looking at the last four years he’s been here, 6.25 goal average a season and a bumper salary. Got to be goodbye and a different approach A bumper salary? I doubt it. He was only just emerging into the first team when he signed the deal that’s about to expire. 6.25 goals per season is a misleading stat also because he was out injured for 12 months. Campbell gets a goal every 260 minutes he’s been on the pitch for Stoke, just less than one every three games. No he doesn’t - look at his stats |
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Post by mickstupp on May 7, 2024 17:36:46 GMT
A bumper salary? I doubt it. He was only just emerging into the first team when he signed the deal that’s about to expire. 6.25 goals per season is a misleading stat also because he was out injured for 12 months. Campbell gets a goal every 260 minutes he’s been on the pitch for Stoke, just less than one every three games. No he doesn’t - look at his stats I’ve just given you his stats. A goal every 260 minutes. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on May 7, 2024 17:37:54 GMT
A bumper salary? I doubt it. He was only just emerging into the first team when he signed the deal that’s about to expire. 6.25 goals per season is a misleading stat also because he was out injured for 12 months. Campbell gets a goal every 260 minutes he’s been on the pitch for Stoke, just less than one every three games. No he doesn’t - look at his stats And close to 1 in 2 full games when he plays in the wide attacking roles, less effective played centrally |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 7, 2024 17:51:34 GMT
I don’t think we will miss Ty too much, IF ,and it’s a big IF, we get in a decent 10/15 goal a season replacement…someone like a SJW , but they only come along once in a blue moon. Players like Walters are 10 a penny and he never got over double figures for us did he? To be fair at least 100 goals in a season would be extraordinary |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 7, 2024 18:06:16 GMT
No he doesn’t - look at his stats And close to 1 in 2 full games when he plays in the wide attacking roles, less effective played centrally 36 goals in 164 apps for Stoke senior team. Whatever way you look at it, not great stats for someone who promised so much. |
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Post by mickstupp on May 7, 2024 18:08:09 GMT
And close to 1 in 2 full games when he plays in the wide attacking roles, less effective played centrally 36 goals in 164 apps for Stoke senior team. Whatever way you look at it, not great stats for someone who promised so much. It’s not really an accurate stat for Campbell though. We all know he hasn’t got 90 minutes in his legs, so typically his appearances tend to be either starts which end after 60 minutes or cameos from the bench. |
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Post by westlandstokie on May 7, 2024 18:53:29 GMT
I don’t think we will miss Ty too much, IF ,and it’s a big IF, we get in a decent 10/15 goal a season replacement…someone like a SJW , but they only come along once in a blue moon. Players like Walters are 10 a penny and he never got over double figures for us did he? Jonnie Walter’s ten a penny eh…you really are an awkward one aren’t you…you always go against everything and anything people say…you must lead a pitiful life. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 7, 2024 19:16:07 GMT
Players like Walters are 10 a penny and he never got over double figures for us did he? Jonnie Walter’s ten a penny eh…you really are an awkward one aren’t you…you always go against everything and anything people say…you must lead a pitiful life. My life is pretty good sorry. Walters is a poverty footballer. Wanting that is pitiful. |
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