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Post by hughjarse on Apr 28, 2024 19:31:42 GMT
Why are these still a thing ?
I don’t know every circumstance in which they are given but I know that offside is one of them ! Why ? Surely a free kick inside your own half could be a direct free kick.
What other offences result in an indirect free kick and would it cause any harm to change it to a direct free kick ?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 28, 2024 19:34:01 GMT
Why are these still a thing ? I don’t know every circumstance in which they are given but I know that offside is one of them ! Why ? Surely a free kick inside your own half could be a direct free kick. What other offences result in an indirect free kick and would it cause any harm to change it to a direct free kick ? Think obstruction is one. Which to me is just a foul. I agree, what’s the point? What’s the one given inside the area again? Pass back when keeper picks it up? Just give a pen |
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Post by fortressbritannia on Apr 28, 2024 19:34:28 GMT
Why are these still a thing ? I don’t know every circumstance in which they are given but I know that offside is one of them ! Why ? Surely a free kick inside your own half could be a direct free kick. What other offences result in an indirect free kick and would it cause any harm to change it to a direct free kick ? Isn't a back pass an indirect free kick as well? Probably the only free kick you can get in the attacking half at a guess |
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Post by walrus on Apr 28, 2024 20:04:04 GMT
The laws of football make specific distinction between penal and non-penal offences. Penal offences are things that can result in a penalty being given.
The easiest way to look at it is: “Is it foul play?”
If the answer is yes, IE things like tripping, pushing, and handball then it’s a a penal offence and a penalty can be given for it.
If the answer is no, IE for things like getting caught offside, handling a backpass etc. then a penalty can’t be given for it.
Admittedly the boundaries for what constitutes “foul play” can get a little blurry, especially on things like picking up a backpass. If the keeper knowingly does so to prevent the opposition having a chance to score then you could argue it is foul play.
As for why they don’t change it, simply because it isn’t really broken. It works fine as it is. We’ve seen the chaos caused by changing the handball rules to supposedly better suit VAR situations. Changes should be avoided as much as possible.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 29, 2024 14:20:28 GMT
Watched a replay of one of our FA Cup Semi Finals v the Scum.
Greenoff was fouled in the box,the Ref gave Stoke a free kick inside the box.
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Post by apb1 on Apr 29, 2024 15:43:30 GMT
Why are these still a thing ? I don’t know every circumstance in which they are given but I know that offside is one of them ! Why ? Surely a free kick inside your own half could be a direct free kick. What other offences result in an indirect free kick and would it cause any harm to change it to a direct free kick ? Isn't a back pass an indirect free kick as well? Probably the only free kick you can get in the attacking half at a guess I have just been looking for our match highlights from a 4-2 win at Southend (great match) in which I'm pretty sure we got an indirect free kick and scored from it in their box (for a backpass I think). Would like to see the goals, |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 29, 2024 15:58:56 GMT
Watched a replay of one of our FA Cup Semi Finals v the Scum. Greenoff was fouled in the box,the Ref gave Stoke a free kick inside the box. I think any foul play in the penalty box should result in a penalty. Even keeper handling a back pass could be construed as preventing goal scoring opportunity. I remember back in the day first season when the back pass law was changed in 92 early in the season I went watch Plymouth vs Stoke down here. Steino was dispossessed in the 6 yd box and the defender, under pressure from the King, passed the ball back to the keeper who, forgetting about the new law, picked it up. The rules for attacking teams awarded indirect free kick inside the 6 yd box require it to be taken anywhere on the 6 yd line that runs parallel with the goal line. So several of the Plymouth defenders lined up between the posts on the goal line. It was virtually impossible for Steino not to score smashing it high into the net. The game ended 1-1. |
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