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Post by pushon on Aug 30, 2024 11:45:04 GMT
The Coates family might be worth £9bn but most of that wealth is the value of Bet365. Jon Coates might have a £100 million or so in cash but will he want to spend his own money on the football club? John Coates has a personal fortune of a estimated 3.6billion, 100mil no where near his wealth But that's probably the estimated value of his shares in Bet365 at current valuation.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 30, 2024 11:45:14 GMT
www.eadt.co.uk/sport/24551990.ipswich-town-blues-eye-move-middlesbroughs-emmanuel-latte-lath/Ipswich Town are eyeing a move for Middlesbrough striker Emmanuel Latte Lath, the East Anglian Daily Times and Ipswich Star understands. The Daily Mail (at around 8:30am in their transfer update live blog) first reported that the the Blues are keen on signing the 25-year-old on transfer deadline day as they continue their search for a new no.9. A move for Armando Broja fell through due an issue with his medical, with a number of alternatives linked in the last few days. Liam Delap is currently Kieran McKenna's first-choice striker, with Ali Al-Hamadi and Freddie Ladapo expected to leave on loan and permanent moves if another forward option is brought in. Is our extra striker ladapo then? Won’t be Al-Hamadi if he can only go out on loan. I can't see us getting another one - but Ladapo is surely going to League One. It'd be interesting to see what figure may tempt Ipswich with AAH if he suddenly becomes their 4th choice striker and they want to get back some of the £100m+ they've spent?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Aug 30, 2024 11:49:05 GMT
I think 90% of fans would agree with that right now👍 Although if we are sniffing around the top 6 come xmas the expectations will inevitably keep rising... Fair enough but we need to be flirting with the play offs into the new year. We have a serious squad now I'm hoping we are i really am. I just think we have to keep ourselves slightly realistic given the up and down nature of this league. Building on our end of season form from last season and steadily becoming a serious force to be reckoned with for me would show Schumacher is on the right path. Sneaking a play off spot for me would be a massive achievement given the last 6 years of dross..
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Aug 30, 2024 11:50:33 GMT
And if you read what I wrote the majority of his wealth is his share of the value of Bet365. It's wealth on paper not hard cash What's your point? Do you think he needs to be sitting there with a bag of cash when we sign someone? My point is a simple one. He doesn't have £3bn in cash. It is his share of the value of Bet365 which he can only turn into cash by selling some of his shares.
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Post by march4 on Aug 30, 2024 11:55:41 GMT
John Coates has a personal fortune of a estimated 3.6billion, 100mil no where near his wealth But that's probably the estimated value of his shares in Bet365 at current valuation. Let’s not forget there are two other board members who aren’t exactly skint.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 30, 2024 11:57:20 GMT
Your looking at it the wrong way, we are no longer owned by Bet365, We now have a owner who owns a large percentage of Bet£365 It's around 25% of the shares isn't it? I wonder if he still holds the position of Joint CEO? Yup don't know what salary he takes but that would be in addition to his dividend income of £25/30M (2024) which wasn't even one of their best performing years. He can easily afford to fund the club at current levels without diluting his holding in bet365.
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Post by campbellsleftpeg on Aug 30, 2024 12:00:31 GMT
John Coates will be every bit as capable of pouring a proportionate amount into Stoke City as Denise pours into her charity foundation. If he takes a proportionate salary and dividends from his bet365 holding. This idea he's beholden to his sister is for the birds. Why should he and how long is going to do it for? The sugar daddy ownership model has a shelf life. I'm sure Blackburn fans were suffering from the same delusion in the Jack Walker era - it ends. At some point either Bet365 will rid themselves of the drain on their profits, the Coates family will wake up that to the fact that their wealth is being drained away and back off or they will run out of money. The recent change in the ownership model is a step towards that eventuality. run out of money? not anytime soon
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 30, 2024 12:04:56 GMT
So…… SS has been provided with some serious loanees and decent purchases at this level. Over to you now son. No excuses. Top half is underachieving. Top 6 expected This is why he came to Stoke. Ambition Top 6? I think you overestimate our chances. It’s like a “ladsanddads” squad. Loads of promising but unproven kids and very little in the way of hardened championship experience.
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Post by northernstokie on Aug 30, 2024 12:08:57 GMT
I find the idea of john running out of cash if he buys a couple of players slightly amusing. No one knows how much money he has in the bank but I bet he has more than £100m sitting there.
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 30, 2024 12:09:19 GMT
Why should he and how long is going to do it for? The sugar daddy ownership model has a shelf life. I'm sure Blackburn fans were suffering from the same delusion in the Jack Walker era - it ends. At some point either Bet365 will rid themselves of the drain on their profits, the Coates family will wake up that to the fact that their wealth is being drained away and back off or they will run out of money. The recent change in the ownership model is a step towards that eventuality. run out of money? not anytime soon They might if people stop gambling but what are the odds of that happening. I bet it won't.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Aug 30, 2024 12:10:53 GMT
A couple more announcements to come. AT ITK Gouranga.
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Post by retrostoke on Aug 30, 2024 12:11:54 GMT
So…… SS has been provided with some serious loanees and decent purchases at this level. Over to you now son. No excuses. Top half is underachieving. Top 6 expected This is why he came to Stoke. Ambition Top 6? I think you overestimate our chances. It’s like a “ladsanddads” squad. Loads of promising but unproven kids and very little in the way of hardened championship experience. Now the squad has been assembled it’s not enough to be hanging around 10th. Pressure on SS. I guess he has been given as much as he could have asked for. He has to decide his best 11 quickly and get his tactics right. The squad is seriously better than last year whether it’s young or not
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Post by s7oke on Aug 30, 2024 12:11:55 GMT
A couple more announcements to come. AT ITK Gouranga. Here’s one it’s dinner time
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 30, 2024 12:13:43 GMT
Top 6? I think you overestimate our chances. It’s like a “ladsanddads” squad. Loads of promising but unproven kids and very little in the way of hardened championship experience. Now the squad has been assembled it’s not enough to be hanging around 10th. Pressure on SS. I guess he has been given as much as he could have asked for. He has to decide his best 11 quickly and get his tactics right. The squad is seriously better than last year whether it’s young or not Still lots of questions marks for me. Let’s see how we get on, but we are still a bit short in one of two areas. Another experienced right sided defender would be nice.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 30, 2024 12:14:01 GMT
Whatever else happens today, if Cundle and Cannon fill our 2 remaining loan spots, that is 5 very impressive loanees. You can see what Schuey is trying to do with Moran and Cundle replacing Laurent and Baker. Add Cannon and Koumas ahead of them, and we have injected a great deal of youthful energy, creativity and goalscoring potential. I can see what is he doing in midfield, he is buying players that fit his fast passing style. BUT Judging by the West Brom and more the Watford game, we also need some muscle and fight in the middle of the park. Im not suggesting that Baker and Laurent were massive ball-winners to be honest. This new Japanese fella is a big unknown but he looks pretty small in stature and perhaps more of a passing midfielder than a ball-winner. Lawal looks very well built and can seemingly put in a tackle. Burger is ok at winning the ball, but wouldnt say its his specialty. I just wonder if theres enough battlers in the team now, given this new look much younger squad. Sometimes you have gotta tough games out in the Championship, its not just about passing it around and playing pretty football all the time.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Aug 30, 2024 12:16:54 GMT
A couple more announcements to come. AT ITK Gouranga. Here’s one it’s dinner time I had mine an hour ago. Gouranga.
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 30, 2024 12:19:04 GMT
Here’s one it’s dinner time I had mine an hour ago. Gouranga. Posh people have lunch now and dinner at tea time ?
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Post by s7oke on Aug 30, 2024 12:23:06 GMT
I had mine an hour ago. Gouranga. Posh people have lunch now and dinner at tea time ? I had my dinner then
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Post by mosquito on Aug 30, 2024 12:23:10 GMT
I had mine an hour ago. Gouranga. Posh people have lunch now and dinner at tea time ? Puh if it was lunch, why are those ladies at school called dinner ladies
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Aug 30, 2024 12:23:18 GMT
A couple more announcements to come. AT ITK Gouranga. Tomorrow is Saturday and stoke are playing at Plymouth
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Post by chell_rosey on Aug 30, 2024 12:23:22 GMT
I had mine an hour ago. Gouranga. Posh people have lunch now and dinner at tea time ? And we all know how Alfred calls Batman in for his tea, don't we...?
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 30, 2024 12:28:11 GMT
Posh people have lunch now and dinner at tea time ? Puh if it was lunch, why are those ladies at school called dinner ladies Lunch ladies at posh schools perhaps,
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Post by mosquito on Aug 30, 2024 12:29:10 GMT
Puh if it was lunch, why are those ladies at school called dinner ladies Lunch ladies at posh schools perhaps, Weirdo's
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 30, 2024 12:29:41 GMT
Posh people have lunch now and dinner at tea time ? And we all know how Alfred calls Batman in for his tea, don't we...? No I dunna, dunna dunna
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Post by kevkj on Aug 30, 2024 12:31:19 GMT
We do look lightweight until Lawal returns but keep the ball on the floor and take teams apart. Simples.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Aug 30, 2024 12:31:47 GMT
There's a player called RB Cover Stoke are looking at Gouranga.
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Post by campbellsleftpeg on Aug 30, 2024 12:32:04 GMT
Now the squad has been assembled it’s not enough to be hanging around 10th. Pressure on SS. I guess he has been given as much as he could have asked for. He has to decide his best 11 quickly and get his tactics right. The squad is seriously better than last year whether it’s young or not Still lots of questions marks for me. Let’s see how we get on, but we are still a bit short in one of two areas. Another experienced right sided defender would be nice. weve always got wilmot at a push, we cant have everything. recruitment seems very good so far, aslong as we get cannon over the line our foward line looks ALOT stronger than last year, so does the midfield
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Post by gaznandi on Aug 30, 2024 12:38:23 GMT
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Aug 30, 2024 12:41:24 GMT
But that's probably the estimated value of his shares in Bet365 at current valuation. Let’s not forget there are two other board members who aren’t exactly skint. And let's not forget up to now it's been company money that's been spent not personal cash.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 30, 2024 12:42:46 GMT
It’s lunch and tea.
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