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Post by baconburger on Aug 30, 2024 10:57:16 GMT
Possible with the amount of strikers Ipswich are accumulating if Tez goes out on loan? Hmmm. Would still be too many forward players? Too many forward players?? No such thing, particularly when your commitment to some of them and their's to you is very limited.
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Post by beats88 on Aug 30, 2024 11:06:13 GMT
What do you mean by "our purse"? The change in structure means Stoke City FC have an arms length relationship with Bet365 and the clubs finances are pretty much defined in terms of its own profit and loss. Bet365 money is not "our" money and neither is the personal wealth of the Coates family. The idea that if FFP is ditched Bet365 will simply keep pour cash into a money pit is nonsense. John Coates will be every bit as capable of pouring a proportionate amount into Stoke City as Denise pours into her charity foundation. If he takes a proportionate salary and dividends from his bet365 holding. This idea he's beholden to his sister is for the birds. Not quite sure on the exact holdings but if lets say Denise owned 50% and received £200m plus in wages and dividends, John, even at a 25% stake would be looking at over £100m annually. Obviously just rough figures and guesswork, but he definitely has the funds to support the club.
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Aug 30, 2024 11:06:31 GMT
seems like since we’re no longer owned by bet365 the purse strings have been well and truly cut The Coates family might be worth £9bn but most of that wealth is the value of Bet365. Jon Coates might have a £100 million or so in cash but will he want to spend his own money on the football club?
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Post by rowleyscfc on Aug 30, 2024 11:07:49 GMT
seems like since we’re no longer owned by bet365 the purse strings have been well and truly cut The Coates family might be worth £9bn but most of that wealth is the value of Bet365. Jon Coates might have a £100 million or so in cash but will he want to spend his own money on the football club? John Coates has a personal fortune of a estimated 3.6billion, 100mil no where near his wealth
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 30, 2024 11:11:35 GMT
Be nice to get some confirmed.
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Post by thebet365 on Aug 30, 2024 11:13:11 GMT
The Coates family might be worth £9bn but most of that wealth is the value of Bet365. Jon Coates might have a £100 million or so in cash but will he want to spend his own money on the football club? John Coates has a personal fortune of a estimated 3.6billion, 100mil no where near his wealth He said in cash not wealth, The bulk of his wealth will be based on the value of Bet365 which isn't readily available cash to use that's the point the poster is making.
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Aug 30, 2024 11:14:04 GMT
The Coates family might be worth £9bn but most of that wealth is the value of Bet365. Jon Coates might have a £100 million or so in cash but will he want to spend his own money on the football club? John Coates has a personal fortune of a estimated 3.6billion, 100mil no where near his wealth And if you read what I wrote the majority of his wealth is his share of the value of Bet365. It's wealth on paper not hard cash
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Post by bertiestan on Aug 30, 2024 11:15:36 GMT
Be nice to get some confirmed. Triple announcement 🔴⚪️
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Post by retrostoke on Aug 30, 2024 11:15:41 GMT
So…… SS has been provided with some serious loanees and decent purchases at this level.
Over to you now son. No excuses. Top half is underachieving. Top 6 expected
This is why he came to Stoke. Ambition
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Aug 30, 2024 11:16:34 GMT
The Coates family might be worth £9bn but most of that wealth is the value of Bet365. Jon Coates might have a £100 million or so in cash but will he want to spend his own money on the football club? John Coates has a personal fortune of a estimated 3.6billion, 100mil no where near his wealth Who really knows how its all set up via trusts and all that malarkey but yeah 100m is almost pocket change to him, as mad as that sounds 😳
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 30, 2024 11:18:54 GMT
John Coates has a personal fortune of a estimated 3.6billion, 100mil no where near his wealth Who really knows how its all set up via trusts and all that malarkey but yeah 100m is almost pocket change to him, as mad as that sounds 😳 Oh they have got the fire power alright soon As they can use it
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 30, 2024 11:20:35 GMT
So…… SS has been provided with some serious loanees and decent purchases at this level. Over to you now son. No excuses. Top half is underachieving. Top 6 expected This is why he came to Stoke. Ambition I disagree that top 6 is a must. If the rumoured ins and outs materialise today we will be left with arguably our youngest ever first team squad. We absolutely need to see progress coupled hopefully with high tempo entertaining football but I think the fans need to be a bit patient (which in fairness they have been over the last 6/7 years!)
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Post by cokecystfit on Aug 30, 2024 11:20:47 GMT
John Coates has a personal fortune of a estimated 3.6billion, 100mil no where near his wealth And if you read what I wrote the majority of his wealth is his share of the value of Bet365. It's wealth on paper not hard cash What's your point? Do you think he needs to be sitting there with a bag of cash when we sign someone?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Aug 30, 2024 11:22:36 GMT
So…… SS has been provided with some serious loanees and decent purchases at this level. Over to you now son. No excuses. Top half is underachieving. Top 6 expected This is why he came to Stoke. Ambition I disagree that top 6 is a must. If the rumoured ins and outs materialise today we will be left with arguably our youngest ever first team squad. We absolutely need to see progress coupled hopefully with high tempo entertaining football but I think the fans need to be a bit patient (which in fairness they have been over the last 6/7 years!) I think 90% of fans would agree with that right now👍 Although if we are sniffing around the top 6 come xmas the expectations will inevitably keep rising...
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 30, 2024 11:23:39 GMT
What do you mean by "our purse"? The change in structure means Stoke City FC have an arms length relationship with Bet365 and the clubs finances are pretty much defined in terms of its own profit and loss. Bet365 money is not "our" money and neither is the personal wealth of the Coates family. The idea that if FFP is ditched Bet365 will simply keep pour cash into a money pit is nonsense. John Coates will be every bit as capable of pouring a proportionate amount into Stoke City as Denise pours into her charity foundation. If he takes a proportionate salary and dividends from his bet365 holding. This idea he's beholden to his sister is for the birds. Why should he and how long is going to do it for? The sugar daddy ownership model has a shelf life. I'm sure Blackburn fans were suffering from the same delusion in the Jack Walker era - it ends. At some point either Bet365 will rid themselves of the drain on their profits, the Coates family will wake up that to the fact that their wealth is being drained away and back off or they will run out of money. The recent change in the ownership model is a step towards that eventuality.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Aug 30, 2024 11:26:23 GMT
John Coates will be every bit as capable of pouring a proportionate amount into Stoke City as Denise pours into her charity foundation. If he takes a proportionate salary and dividends from his bet365 holding. This idea he's beholden to his sister is for the birds. Why should he and how long is going to do it for? The sugar daddy ownership model has a shelf life. I'm sure Blackburn fans were suffering from the same delusion in the Jack Walker era - it ends. At some point either Bet365 will rid themselves of the drain on their profits, the Coates family will wake up that to the fact that their wealth is being drained away and back off or they will run out of money. The recent change in the ownership model is a step towards that eventuality. Maybe. But you have to factor in the kids who may well have similar affiliations and dedication to the club. Amd I don't think those kids are going to exactly be poor.
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Post by Ursemboy on Aug 30, 2024 11:27:04 GMT
Just seen a car reg on the A34 going north past Trentham
BD11 OXF
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Post by hd51 on Aug 30, 2024 11:30:10 GMT
Just seen a car reg on the A34 going north past Trentham BD11 OXF A 13 year old Peugout has got to be Cannon!
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 30, 2024 11:31:45 GMT
Just seen a car reg on the A34 going north past Trentham BD11 OXF Thats me off to see some monkeys
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Post by Ursemboy on Aug 30, 2024 11:32:39 GMT
Just seen a car reg on the A34 going north past Trentham BD11 OXF A 13 year old Peugout has got to be Cannon! He is on his way 💥
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 30, 2024 11:32:43 GMT
🚨💣 BREAKING ! Le LOSC serait en discussion pour une potentielle arrivée de Dele Alli ! 🤯❤️🤍 ( @voixdesdogues ) Translated from French by 🚨💣 BREAKING! LOSC is reportedly in talks for a potential arrival of Dele Alli! 🤯❤️🤍 ( @voixdesdogues ) Generalfaye dislikes this
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Post by canadianmoose on Aug 30, 2024 11:32:50 GMT
Just seen a car reg on the A34 going north past Trentham BD11 OXF A 13 year old Peugout has got to be Cannon! 112,000 miles on it as well!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 30, 2024 11:34:24 GMT
Just seen a car reg on the A34 going north past Trentham BD11 OXF Thats me off to see some monkeys Stay on here you'll see loads more.
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 30, 2024 11:34:39 GMT
Whatever else happens today, if Cundle and Cannon fill our 2 remaining loan spots, that is 5 very impressive loanees.
You can see what Schuey is trying to do with Moran and Cundle replacing Laurent and Baker. Add Cannon and Koumas ahead of them, and we have injected a great deal of youthful energy, creativity and goalscoring potential.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 30, 2024 11:35:12 GMT
John Coates will be every bit as capable of pouring a proportionate amount into Stoke City as Denise pours into her charity foundation. If he takes a proportionate salary and dividends from his bet365 holding. This idea he's beholden to his sister is for the birds. Why should he and how long is going to do it for? The sugar daddy ownership model has a shelf life. I'm sure Blackburn fans were suffering from the same delusion in the Jack Walker era - it ends. At some point either Bet365 will rid themselves of the drain on their profits, the Coates family will wake up that to the fact that their wealth is being drained away and back off or they will run out of money. The recent change in the ownership model is a step towards that eventuality. You seem determined to know things that you just don't.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 30, 2024 11:35:43 GMT
Whatever else happens today, if Cundle and Cannon fill our 2 remaining loan spots, that is 5 very impressive loanees. You can see what Schuey is trying to do with Moran and Cundle replacing Laurent and Baker. Add Cannon and Koumas ahead of them, and we have injected a great deal of youthful energy, creativity and goalscoring potential. We've replaced Vidigal and Leris with Koumas and Manhoef since last summer too.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 30, 2024 11:39:11 GMT
www.eadt.co.uk/sport/24551990.ipswich-town-blues-eye-move-middlesbroughs-emmanuel-latte-lath/Ipswich Town are eyeing a move for Middlesbrough striker Emmanuel Latte Lath, the East Anglian Daily Times and Ipswich Star understands. The Daily Mail (at around 8:30am in their transfer update live blog) first reported that the the Blues are keen on signing the 25-year-old on transfer deadline day as they continue their search for a new no.9. A move for Armando Broja fell through due an issue with his medical, with a number of alternatives linked in the last few days. Liam Delap is currently Kieran McKenna's first-choice striker, with Ali Al-Hamadi and Freddie Ladapo expected to leave on loan and permanent moves if another forward option is brought in.
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Post by pushon on Aug 30, 2024 11:42:14 GMT
seems like since we’re no longer owned by bet365 the purse strings have been well and truly cut Your looking at it the wrong way, we are no longer owned by Bet365, We now have a owner who owns a large percentage of Bet£365 It's around 25% of the shares isn't it? I wonder if he still holds the position of Joint CEO?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 30, 2024 11:43:03 GMT
www.eadt.co.uk/sport/24551990.ipswich-town-blues-eye-move-middlesbroughs-emmanuel-latte-lath/Ipswich Town are eyeing a move for Middlesbrough striker Emmanuel Latte Lath, the East Anglian Daily Times and Ipswich Star understands. The Daily Mail (at around 8:30am in their transfer update live blog) first reported that the the Blues are keen on signing the 25-year-old on transfer deadline day as they continue their search for a new no.9. A move for Armando Broja fell through due an issue with his medical, with a number of alternatives linked in the last few days. Liam Delap is currently Kieran McKenna's first-choice striker, with Ali Al-Hamadi and Freddie Ladapo expected to leave on loan and permanent moves if another forward option is brought in. Is our extra striker ladapo then? Won’t be Al-Hamadi if he can only go out on loan.
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Post by retrostoke on Aug 30, 2024 11:43:52 GMT
I disagree that top 6 is a must. If the rumoured ins and outs materialise today we will be left with arguably our youngest ever first team squad. We absolutely need to see progress coupled hopefully with high tempo entertaining football but I think the fans need to be a bit patient (which in fairness they have been over the last 6/7 years!) I think 90% of fans would agree with that right now👍 Although if we are sniffing around the top 6 come xmas the expectations will inevitably keep rising... Fair enough but we need to be flirting with the play offs into the new year. We have a serious squad now
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