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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 10:55:03 GMT
I just don't get that. You can still move money and there are still people working in bank security departments who will facilitate a money transfer if it's declined because say it's a larger than normal amount. I've had bank transfers declined when buying cars for instance outside of business hours. The system produces a number for you to ring and there are people there who eventually answer the phone and sort it out for you. I'm not sure banks are ever totally closed in this day and age. How many times do you try to transfer millions of pounds? Out of working hours my bank gives the option of 'next working day' or a future date of my choosing. I don't, I haven't got millions of pounds but would imagine that the bank would decline the transfer as they would mine for thousands of pounds(because it's an unusually high transaction for me) then the system produces a number for me to ring to sort it out. I've literally had it happen and I certainly didn't have to return to Birmingham the next day to complete my purchase.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Aug 26, 2024 11:00:02 GMT
Unfortunate that it seems like we're facing issues no other club is.
Bank Holiday Window closing on a Friday Away game on the Saturday
How can we possibly compete?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 26, 2024 11:00:39 GMT
How many times do you try to transfer millions of pounds? Out of working hours my bank gives the option of 'next working day' or a future date of my choosing. I don't, I haven't got millions of pounds but would imagine that the bank would decline the transfer as they would mine for thousands of pounds(because it's an unusually high transaction for me) then the system produces a number for me to ring to sort it out. I've literally had it happen and I certainly didn't have to return to Birmingham the next day to complete my purchase. Transfers don't work like that. You don't bessarily pay for a player like you do something in a shop Only a fraction of a free is paid up top in most cases. They're spread over time . Quite often when a player is later sold on, money is still owing and has to be paid . Kenwyne Jones I remember a hefty one in our case when we sold him. If we were to buy say Cannon for 6 million, we don't pay them 6 million straight away. Would be usually spread over their contract.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 26, 2024 11:02:00 GMT
👍. Hopefully people aren’t thinking (suggesting) that the recruitment process isn’t operating normally because it’s a bank holiday. 🙄🙄 Who knows let’s see how many deals get done today. I predict very few. Doesn't matter how desperate we are there have to be people at both ends for anything to happen. Deals won’t be confirmed today because the PL and EFL staff won’t be working. Clubs and agents will be working
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 11:05:55 GMT
I don't, I haven't got millions of pounds but would imagine that the bank would decline the transfer as they would mine for thousands of pounds(because it's an unusually high transaction for me) then the system produces a number for me to ring to sort it out. I've literally had it happen and I certainly didn't have to return to Birmingham the next day to complete my purchase. Transfers don't work like that. You don't bessarily pay for a player like you do something in a shop Only a fraction of a free is paid up top in most cases. They're spread over time . Quite often when a player is later sold on, money is still owing and has to be paid . Kenwyne Jones I remember a hefty one in our case when we sold him. If we were to buy say Cannon for 6 million, we don't pay them 6 million straight away. Would be usually spread over their contract. I don't think that makes a whole lot of difference it would still be a very large amount that they'd likely want to make checks on before allowing it to go through. All I'm saying is that there are people there to facilitate these things. Doing all manner of high value business would be nigh on impossible if there weren't, these are actually days when more money is spent than on a normal day and it would be very difficult to pay for high value items without them being there. These banks don't let you spend your own money willy nilly.
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Post by thornestein on Aug 26, 2024 11:06:03 GMT
Who knows lets see how many deals get done today. I predict very few. Doesn't matter how desperate we are there have to be people at both ends for anything to happen. Impossible to finalise a deal when the banks aren't working. why , i’ve just sent money by my banking app , it’s not difficult
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 11:06:44 GMT
Who knows let’s see how many deals get done today. I predict very few. Doesn't matter how desperate we are there have to be people at both ends for anything to happen. Deals won’t be confirmed today because the PL and EFL staff won’t be working. Clubs and agents will be working That's a more believable explanation.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 11:09:08 GMT
Impossible to finalise a deal when the banks aren't working. why , i’ve just sent money by my banking app , it’s not difficult It can be if you're making an unusually high transfer(for you) but it can be sorted it just takes a lot of time on the phone. More in my case because I was trying to transfer money on my Mrs internet banking login but we still got there in the end.
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Post by march4 on Aug 26, 2024 11:13:13 GMT
Can't understand why deadline day finishes on the day when there is a full set of fixtures going on SAT. Why not have it on FRI night or even SUN? Or just close it exactly one week before the season starts, I think it would be better for all involved. Or scrap it altogether and get rid of this restrictive system.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 26, 2024 11:20:53 GMT
Or just close it exactly one week before the season starts, I think it would be better for all involved. Or scrap it altogether and get rid of this restrictive system. Scrapping it will favour the big teams more The whole point was to stop teams bringing in big name players as the season closes Imagine Man City being second, 3 points behind Ipswich with 4 games to go and then buy or loan players to get them the title I know the scenario is as likely as Feltz winning Playboy Nudie hot chick of the century but wouldn't go down well A Villa battling relegation with say Luton last year and they buy their way out of it. Not a fan of it but with the money about at the top, it would happen
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 11:24:01 GMT
Or just close it exactly one week before the season starts, I think it would be better for all involved. Or scrap it altogether and get rid of this restrictive system. This restrictive system allows clubs like us to not get our team picked apart the minute we or even an individual player start to do well. Yes they'll still get picked off eventually but at least we get a few months to plan a reaction. I can imagine you'd be squealing from the rooftops if we had a promotion push derailed by uncontrolled transfer activity, even a few plausible rumours could scupper your season.
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Post by moon on Aug 26, 2024 11:41:14 GMT
Or just close it exactly one week before the season starts, I think it would be better for all involved. Or scrap it altogether and get rid of this restrictive system. I’d be fine with that too, that’s a nice alternative if moving the window puts teams at disadvantages to their European counterparts. The teams playing in Europe would still need to sort their European squads out by a deadline I guess, but that’s not going to affect us anytime soon.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 26, 2024 11:41:29 GMT
Or scrap it altogether and get rid of this restrictive system. This restrictive system allows clubs like us to not get our team picked apart the minute we or even an individual player start to do well. Yes they'll still get picked off eventually but at least we get a few months to plan a reaction. I can imagine you'd be squealing from the rooftops if we had a promotion push derailed by uncontrolled transfer activity, even a few plausible rumours could scupper your season. like Mathews getting sold to Blackpool when we're were close to winning the league.
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Post by karl on Aug 26, 2024 11:42:48 GMT
Do we think the club will be busy these last few days?
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 11:45:27 GMT
Do we think the club will be busy these last few days? Hope don't know about think. I would hope we want to bring a few in and move even more out.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 26, 2024 11:49:39 GMT
This restrictive system allows clubs like us to not get our team picked apart the minute we or even an individual player start to do well. Yes they'll still get picked off eventually but at least we get a few months to plan a reaction. I can imagine you'd be squealing from the rooftops if we had a promotion push derailed by uncontrolled transfer activity, even a few plausible rumours could scupper your season. like Mathews getting sold to Blackpool when we're were close to winning the league. Didn't he ask to leave several times? I know most will blame the club over him because of who he is but I couldn't ever see why he left when he did so close to the season ending
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Post by lordb on Aug 26, 2024 12:00:59 GMT
Or scrap it altogether and get rid of this restrictive system. Scrapping it will favour the big teams more The whole point was to stop teams bringing in big name players as the season closes Imagine Man City being second, 3 points behind Ipswich with 4 games to go and then buy or loan players to get them the title I know the scenario is as likely as Feltz winning Playboy Nudie hot chick of the century but wouldn't go down well A Villa battling relegation with say Luton last year and they buy their way out of it. Not a fan of it but with the money about at the top, it would happen Disagree Without the window big clubs wouldn't stockpile players anywhere near as much
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Post by lordb on Aug 26, 2024 12:01:56 GMT
like Mathews getting sold to Blackpool when we're were close to winning the league. Didn't he ask to leave several times? I know most will blame the club over him because of who he is but I couldn't ever see why he left when he did so close to the season ending He was injured at the time, wouldn't have played any of the last few games anyway
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Post by march4 on Aug 26, 2024 12:03:13 GMT
Or scrap it altogether and get rid of this restrictive system. This restrictive system allows clubs like us to not get our team picked apart the minute we or even an individual player start to do well. Yes they'll still get picked off eventually but at least we get a few months to plan a reaction. I can imagine you'd be squealing from the rooftops if we had a promotion push derailed by uncontrolled transfer activity, even a few plausible rumours could scupper your season. It worked perfectly for over a century. Should never have been changed.
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Post by lordb on Aug 26, 2024 12:04:28 GMT
Or scrap it altogether and get rid of this restrictive system. This restrictive system allows clubs like us to not get our team picked apart the minute we or even an individual player start to do well. Yes they'll still get picked off eventually but at least we get a few months to plan a reaction. I can imagine you'd be squealing from the rooftops if we had a promotion push derailed by uncontrolled transfer activity, even a few plausible rumours could scupper your season. Or we could sign some players to boost a promotion push Eg signing Gleghorn just before a big game Works both ways It was a far better system Unhappy player?off you go Need a left back, go get one
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Post by lordb on Aug 26, 2024 12:05:13 GMT
This restrictive system allows clubs like us to not get our team picked apart the minute we or even an individual player start to do well. Yes they'll still get picked off eventually but at least we get a few months to plan a reaction. I can imagine you'd be squealing from the rooftops if we had a promotion push derailed by uncontrolled transfer activity, even a few plausible rumours could scupper your season. It worked perfectly for over a century. Should never have been changed. Who did the change benefit? As far as I can see it benefits agents and no one else
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 12:06:38 GMT
Didn't he ask to leave several times? I know most will blame the club over him because of who he is but I couldn't ever see why he left when he did so close to the season ending He was injured at the time, wouldn't have played any of the last few games anyway So what if he wasn't? Why allow that possibility to exist. I don't think 4 months stability is too much to ask having assembled a squad and at the end of a season.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 26, 2024 12:07:21 GMT
Impossible to finalise a deal when the banks aren't working. Just paid my car insurance, didn't say come back tomorrow. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by lordb on Aug 26, 2024 12:10:27 GMT
He was injured at the time, wouldn't have played any of the last few games anyway So what if he wasn't? Why allow that possibility to exist. I don't think 4 months stability is too much to ask having assembled a squad and at the end of a season. Was merely explaining why he left at that exact point in time Had he been fit then presumably he wouldn't have left until the season was over Used to have a deadline in March, that was fine.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 12:13:30 GMT
So what if he wasn't? Why allow that possibility to exist. I don't think 4 months stability is too much to ask having assembled a squad and at the end of a season. Was merely explaining why he left at that exact point in time Had he been fit then presumably he wouldn't have left until the season was over Used to have a deadline in March, that was fine. I certainly wouldn't be in favour of anything that allowed transfers anything like that close to the culmination of a season.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 26, 2024 12:20:28 GMT
So what if he wasn't? Why allow that possibility to exist. I don't think 4 months stability is too much to ask having assembled a squad and at the end of a season. Was merely explaining why he left at that exact point in time Had he been fit then presumably he wouldn't have left until the season was over Used to have a deadline in March, that was fine. That was before the money swilling around went stratospheric. The big clubs would simply buy up the in form players in rival teams or at the very least tap up players and destabilise teams. It would kill football as a sporting competition. I'd go the other way - close the window before the season starts and ditch the January window. The squad you start with is the one you compete with. If you have injuries issues tough - draft in your youngsters.
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Post by AlliG on Aug 26, 2024 12:35:31 GMT
Didn't he ask to leave several times? I know most will blame the club over him because of who he is but I couldn't ever see why he left when he did so close to the season ending He was injured at the time, wouldn't have played any of the last few games anyway The season also didn't finish that year until the middle of June because of the backlog of fixtures due to the amount of games lost due to snow between December and the end of March. While Stan asked for a transfer his opinion was that Bob McGrory forced him out. Remember at that time the club held all the aces. If they didn't want to transfer a player they could just refuse and there was nothing the player could do. Tom Finney tells the story in his autobiography that he would have been the first English international to go and play in Italy. He thought everything was agreed but then the Preston board changed their mind and he had to stay at Preston.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 12:42:12 GMT
Was merely explaining why he left at that exact point in time Had he been fit then presumably he wouldn't have left until the season was over Used to have a deadline in March, that was fine. That was before the money swilling around went stratospheric. The big clubs would simply buy up the in form players in rival teams or at the very least tap up players and destabilise teams. It would kill football as a sporting competition. I'd go the other way - close the window before the season starts and ditch the January window. The squad you start with is the one you compete with. If you have injuries issues tough - draft in your youngsters. That would just result in promoted teams getting relegated all the time(much more than they do anyway). You might as well implement a closed shop and be straight about it.
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Post by LH_SCFC on Aug 26, 2024 12:51:54 GMT
Who knows lets see how many deals get done today. I predict very few. Doesn't matter how desperate we are there have to be people at both ends for anything to happen. Impossible to finalise a deal when the banks aren't working. 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 26, 2024 12:52:43 GMT
I wouldn’t expect him to say anymore than he has maybe even less. I think maybe a slip yesterday highlighted a bit of disunity in the camp but only Benji really picked up on it and others as usual refuse to read between the lines. The ever negative benji is trying to see what isn’t there. It happens all the time in transfer windows. I was absolutley not negative and nor is it something i havent said before Namely the great unknown in the current structure is the relationship between SJW and SS . neither have skin im the game as thry didnt pick each other its an arramged marriage and hard to tell how its working as neither seem to refer to it
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