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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2024 12:32:20 GMT
This was just posted on Facebook by the church group “I'm hearing we are looking at getting rid of at least 5 more first team players.....baker....laurent...DJ....baker medhi.....and another one I can't mention..!...but he's loving stoke but told he can leave... also I'm told that the manager is like a puppet,so much power behind the scenes making decisions...” Sure that some are likely but think the power bit could be over egged I wouldn't be so sure that it is over egged. It's clear the TD is wielding more power at this club than ever before. ...and that's the model isn't it when it's done right?
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Post by bolders on Jul 24, 2024 12:33:09 GMT
This was just posted on Facebook by the church group “I'm hearing we are looking at getting rid of at least 5 more first team players.....baker....laurent...DJ....baker medhi.....and another one I can't mention..!...but he's loving stoke but told he can leave... also I'm told that the manager is like a puppet,so much power behind the scenes making decisions...” Sure that some are likely but think the power bit could be over egged Last one has to be Gooch And the puppet thing is going to be absolute bollocks
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 12:33:17 GMT
This was just posted on Facebook by the church group “I'm hearing we are looking at getting rid of at least 5 more first team players.....baker....laurent...DJ....baker medhi.....and another one I can't mention..!...but he's loving stoke but told he can leave... also I'm told that the manager is like a puppet,so much power behind the scenes making decisions...” Sure that some are likely but think the power bit could be over egged I wouldn't be so sure that it is over egged. It's clear the TD is wielding more power at this club than ever before. ...and that's the model isn't it when it's done right? It’s clear who is in charge and it ain’t Schumacher.
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Post by stantheman on Jul 24, 2024 12:38:09 GMT
🤣🤣not even close to being true sadly. Dream on Walter. Get a room
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 24, 2024 12:40:35 GMT
What I don't understand is for years we've clamoured on here for us to move with the times and go down the Sporting Director & Head Coach route, now we've done it, it's constantly being insinuated that this is a negative.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 24, 2024 12:42:57 GMT
I wouldn't be so sure that it is over egged. It's clear the TD is wielding more power at this club than ever before. ...and that's the model isn't it when it's done right? It’s clear who is in charge and it ain’t Schumacher. He's the head coach not manager so I'm not sure what you expect.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 12:44:04 GMT
It’s clear who is in charge and it ain’t Schumacher. He's the head coach not manager so I'm not sure what you expect. Exactly that. I’ve spent the last week arguing against the hordes saying that’s how it will be 🤣
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 24, 2024 12:44:22 GMT
Maybe, just maybe it’s a damn difficult job and you don’t fully understand the complexities fully. I think I’ve demonstrated that I understand the issues (the owners) more than most on this board.
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Post by hd51 on Jul 24, 2024 12:45:54 GMT
What I don't understand is for years we've clamoured on here for us to move with the times and go down the Sporting Director & Head Coach route, now we've done it, it's constantly being insinuated that this is a negative. And arguably it seems to be better this way as Schuey can focus on the team and not have to worry about everything behind the scenes.
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Post by hd51 on Jul 24, 2024 12:46:47 GMT
He's the head coach not manager so I'm not sure what you expect. Exactly that. I’ve spent the last week arguing against the hordes saying that’s how it will be 🤣 What would you do Bayern as you seem to think you can run a football club on your own?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 12:47:31 GMT
What I don't understand is for years we've clamoured on here for us to move with the times and go down the Sporting Director & Head Coach route, now we've done it, it's constantly being insinuated that this is a negative. And arguably it seems to be better this way as Schuey can focus on the team and not have to worry about everything behind the scenes. It’s more than behind the scenes though? Which again is how I think it should be.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 12:48:05 GMT
Exactly that. I’ve spent the last week arguing against the hordes saying that’s how it will be 🤣 What would you do Bayern as you seem to think you can run a football club on your own? Im not saying it’s a bad thing. Calm your tits 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by hd51 on Jul 24, 2024 12:49:16 GMT
What would you do Bayern as you seem to think you can run a football club on your own? Im not saying it’s a bad thing. Calm your tits 🤣🤣🤣 You just always seem to disagree with anything the club does and always revolt back to 'the owners are the problem' when without their financial backing we would probably be playing bury next season
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 24, 2024 12:49:22 GMT
144,090 posts. If you were to post once a day, every single day without fail, it would take you 395 years to reach that figure. If you were to post once every hour, every single hour of the day, 24 hours a day, repeatedly without ever taking a break, it would take you 16 and a half years to reach that figure. Just food for thought. P.s. I appreciate this post is non-transfer related but if you can't beat em, join em. I don't like to be rude , but most of his posts are argumentative bollocks. (I do think his posts about the youth teams are informative though)
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 24, 2024 12:50:06 GMT
He's the head coach not manager so I'm not sure what you expect. Exactly that. I’ve spent the last week arguing against the hordes saying that’s how it will be 🤣 They'll make the key decisions together of course but the last say will always be with whoever is ranked higher as in any business. I'm sure they'll have a plan and he'll be involved every step of the way as any head coach will be but at the end of the day Walters is his boss.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 12:50:27 GMT
Im not saying it’s a bad thing. Calm your tits 🤣🤣🤣 You just always seem to disagree with anything the club does and always revolt back to 'the owners are the problem' when without their financial backing we would probably be playing bury next season I mean they clearly are the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2024 12:51:17 GMT
What I don't understand is for years we've clamoured on here for us to move with the times and go down the Sporting Director & Head Coach route, now we've done it, it's constantly being insinuated that this is a negative. Exactly. Walters is clearly running the show and that's how it should be. The key is to get the right man in that role and the right man as a Head Coach. Time will tell on both if they are right for the club and roles. The first big decision Walters has made is Dublin out and Darnbrough in. I think that's a mistake but again, time will tell.
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Post by hd51 on Jul 24, 2024 12:52:50 GMT
You just always seem to disagree with anything the club does and always revolt back to 'the owners are the problem' when without their financial backing we would probably be playing bury next season I mean they clearly are the problem. This whole thread wouldn't be a thing if we had different owners. We have the richest backing in the country. You only have to look at Blackburn for an example of what happens when you have no money to spend. The grass isn't always greener
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 24, 2024 12:53:41 GMT
What you're forgetting Bayern is that you couldn't run a coaching session, day in day out, week in week out, to save your life. Not many fans could. It's not just about picking the team and formation. I do also have my doubts about your man management skills sadly. You couldn’t be more wrong re man management as this last week as highlighted tbh. Which for me has been lovely hearing some stories of stuff I’ve done without even realising that has helped the people that work for me And I couldn’t do a coaching session you are correct but I’d get a coach for that. Like Hughes used to do. What have you done for them Bayern? Are you a geography teacher? I think town planner actually.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 12:53:42 GMT
Exactly that. I’ve spent the last week arguing against the hordes saying that’s how it will be 🤣 They'll make the key decisions together of course but the last say will always be with whoever is ranked higher as in any business. I'm sure they'll have a plan and he'll be involved every step of the way as any head coach will be but at the end of the day Walters is his boss. I think that’s roughly about right but I do think some things that most would expect a a manager to do will actually be with Walters. The argument I was having last week about development paths an playing younger players and that’s one thing I think will be out of the head coaches hands. He will be expected to give them certain minutes etc. I think it’s the right way to do things.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 12:55:31 GMT
I mean they clearly are the problem. This whole thread wouldn't be a thing if we had different owners. We have the richest backing in the country. You only have to look at Blackburn for an example of what happens when you have no money to spend. The grass isn't always greener Of course it would. They have wasted more money than has used well. It’s nothing to be proud of or to brag about. Their backing has been pretty meaningless because of the decision they have made. Blackburn? A team that in guessing have done marginally better than us these last 6 years? 🤣
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Post by onionman on Jul 24, 2024 12:56:04 GMT
“How long’s a piece of string? In the areas that we’re trying to strengthen it’s really difficult, everyone is after the same players. There are a lot of things going on in the Premier League with some players not fully back for pre-season or clubs being away on tours so it’s just a patience game at the moment" Sounds like loads are after the same group of strikers This looks like a damning indictment on the new head of recruitment. We seem to have switched from uncovering gems from across the world whose value can quickly rocket, to joining the long list of clubs scrapping for whichever young players did well on loan in the past couple of years but whose price is now inflated. We'll either get gazumped by parachute clubs/lower Premier League clubs or be forced to pay over the odds. That's how the English market works, as we've discovered to our great cost over the past few years.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 12:56:35 GMT
You couldn’t be more wrong re man management as this last week as highlighted tbh. Which for me has been lovely hearing some stories of stuff I’ve done without even realising that has helped the people that work for me And I couldn’t do a coaching session you are correct but I’d get a coach for that. Like Hughes used to do. What have you done for them Bayern? Are you a geography teacher? I think town planner actually. I’d love to be a town planner. Given them the confidence to get bigger and better jobs mainly. And it’s so fucking nice to hear
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Post by questionable on Jul 24, 2024 12:56:57 GMT
I think that SS should be extremely grateful that he still has a position at Stoke, given that he’s still here he should grasp at any additional support on offer regardless who from.
The major thing that concerns me is that SS and JW are polar opposite of their footballing thoughts
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 24, 2024 12:58:10 GMT
Exactly that. I’ve spent the last week arguing against the hordes saying that’s how it will be 🤣 What would you do Bayern as you seem to think you can run a football club on your own? To be fair Bayern once told me he personally managed over 100 staff. One to ones, appraisals everything with no one under him to share the workload……
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Post by hd51 on Jul 24, 2024 12:59:31 GMT
What would you do Bayern as you seem to think you can run a football club on your own? To be fair Bayern once told me he personally managed over 100 staff. One to ones, appraisals everything with no one under him to share the workload…… Well now you've said that give him the keys to the city.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 24, 2024 13:00:23 GMT
“How long’s a piece of string? In the areas that we’re trying to strengthen it’s really difficult, everyone is after the same players. There are a lot of things going on in the Premier League with some players not fully back for pre-season or clubs being away on tours so it’s just a patience game at the moment" Sounds like loads are after the same group of strikers This looks like a damning indictment on the new head of recruitment. We seem to have switched from uncovering gems from across the world whose value can quickly rocket, to joining the long list of clubs scrapping for whichever young players did well on loan in the past couple of years but whose price is now inflated. We'll either get gazumped by parachute clubs/lower Premier League clubs or be forced to pay over the odds. That's how the English market works, as we've discovered to our great cost over the past few years. It's fucking lunacy and one straight out of the Tony 'we are waiting to see what Everton's budget is' Scholes handbook.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 13:00:37 GMT
What would you do Bayern as you seem to think you can run a football club on your own? To be fair Bayern once told me he personally managed over 100 staff. One to ones, appraisals everything with no one under him to share the workload…… And I still do….
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Post by thornestein on Jul 24, 2024 13:03:47 GMT
This was just posted on Facebook by the church group “I'm hearing we are looking at getting rid of at least 5 more first team players.....baker....laurent...DJ....baker medhi.....and another one I can't mention..!...but he's loving stoke but told he can leave... also I'm told that the manager is like a puppet,so much power behind the scenes making decisions...” Sure that some are likely but think the power bit could be over egged wtf is the church group 🤷♂️
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Post by hd51 on Jul 24, 2024 13:05:09 GMT
This was just posted on Facebook by the church group “I'm hearing we are looking at getting rid of at least 5 more first team players.....baker....laurent...DJ....baker medhi.....and another one I can't mention..!...but he's loving stoke but told he can leave... also I'm told that the manager is like a puppet,so much power behind the scenes making decisions...” Sure that some are likely but think the power bit could be over egged wtf is the church group 🤷♂️ The very pinnacle of the cirtle
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