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Post by thornestein on Jul 24, 2024 11:55:15 GMT
Swap Mmaee for Tom cannon and we will piss the league. We would just out score everyone I just hope we don't win the league by 9 points as the last three wins of the season are irrelavant apparently. only if you lose them 😉
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 24, 2024 11:56:15 GMT
Aren’t Brum fans pretty adamant that Stansfield is better on the left? I mean I’d be cool with that if it meant: Manhoef Junho Stansfied Mmaee This is what I’m hoping for, but Ugno not Mmaee at CF
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 11:57:13 GMT
I’m genuinely astounded that every person on this board doesn’t believe they could have done better than every manager since Lambert. That’s because every person on the board isn’t a narcissistic fool. Like them or loathe them they’ve got more understanding of the game than you’ll ever have if you live to be 100. 🤣🤣not even close to being true sadly.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 24, 2024 11:59:04 GMT
To me it’s whether you like what they’re doing not almost insisting they do what you want them to. I’ve enjoyed some games under MON and some under AN but overall didn’t like what they were trying to do. Schu isn’t doing something I would necessarily do but I know when it has clicked I bloddy enjoyed watching it even more than the others and I think for a very brief period under AN we were playing the best football in the division. I didn’t like him because he’s naturally a pragmatist and I don’t think that’s what football is for. Pragmatists are people who fear and struggle to cope with disappointment, give me an idealist every day. I’m genuinely astounded that every person on this board doesn’t believe they could have done better than every manager since Lambert. You’ve got your head up your arse then. What you fail to understand is that the odds are against these managers. You can find the best 20 managers in world football and put them in the Premier League and guess what, at the end of the season there is only one winner and three clubs relegated. 70% of them would be deemed failures.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 24, 2024 11:59:31 GMT
That’s because every person on the board isn’t a narcissistic fool. Like them or loathe them they’ve got more understanding of the game than you’ll ever have if you live to be 100. 🤣🤣not even close to being true sadly. Dream on Walter.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 12:02:22 GMT
I’m genuinely astounded that every person on this board doesn’t believe they could have done better than every manager since Lambert. You’ve got your head up your arse then. What you fail to understand is that the odds are against these managers. You can find the best 20 managers in world football and put them in the Premier League and guess what, at the end of the season there is only one winner and three clubs relegated. 70% of them would be deemed failures. I absolutely get that. It’s the consistent failures. It’s the not having a plan. It’s the having a plan and not buying players for it. Not one manager since Hughes in his first 3 seasons has shown any kind of understanding of what’s going on at this club. They over complicate everything. I’ve got no time for them.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 24, 2024 12:03:21 GMT
I’m genuinely astounded that every person on this board doesn’t believe they could have done better than every manager since Lambert. You’ve got your head up your arse then. What you fail to understand is that the odds are against these managers. You can find the best 20 managers in world football and put them in the Premier League and guess what, at the end of the season there is only one winner and three clubs relegated. 70% of them would be deemed failures. As I said it mainly boils down to whether you like their mentality or not. Questioning their understanding of the game is for idiots imo. That’s why Pulis for example was never universally popular. Some of us could just never accept his mentality.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 24, 2024 12:03:48 GMT
You’ve got your head up your arse then. What you fail to understand is that the odds are against these managers. You can find the best 20 managers in world football and put them in the Premier League and guess what, at the end of the season there is only one winner and three clubs relegated. 70% of them would be deemed failures. I absolutely get that. It’s the consistent failures. It’s the not having a plan. It’s the having a plan and not buying players for it. Not one manager since Hughes in his first 3 seasons has shown any kind of understanding of what’s going on at this club. They over complicate everything. I’ve got no time for them. Maybe, just maybe it’s a damn difficult job and you don’t fully understand the complexities.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 24, 2024 12:04:33 GMT
I’m not sure where the 12 game yardstick has come from, but in SS’s 24 league games he’s got 33 points at 1.38 points per game. Over a 46 game season that’s 63 points, which is pretty much exactly where I see us being this season. The yardstick is actually of variable length to suit whatever argument you want to support.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 24, 2024 12:06:12 GMT
Like I've said above, I used it as a yardstick because it was the Boro win that snapped that awful run, it was the start of a new month in March and from there until the end of the season we gained enough points to show play off form. Ok fair enough, but it gives us a clearer picture when we look at his whole tenure so far which shows the bad run we had over February and the good run we had in April/May. He still comes out of it quite well. Come on. If you like him focus on the start and the end of his tenure last season. If you don't, focus on the middle bit.
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 24, 2024 12:06:20 GMT
There is always talk on hear about this or that player not being any good sometimes it takes a manager too spot something others don't ie mark stein bought as a winger and who knew before Stoke had him Rory had that throw In my limited coaching I took a lad in midfield switched him to central defence he went from nowhere near his school team to representing Cheshire in 1 month
It just takes someone to take a risk something in modern football that seems to be overlooked
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 24, 2024 12:06:25 GMT
I think 63 points is about right, unless we get a decent goalscorer and a strong and combative midfield general, who can play a bit and organise.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 24, 2024 12:07:00 GMT
I’m not sure where the 12 game yardstick has come from, but in SS’s 24 league games he’s got 33 points at 1.38 points per game. Over a 46 game season that’s 63 points, which is pretty much exactly where I see us being this season. The yardstick is actually of variable length to suit whatever argument you want to support. Maybe I’m not giving them due credit but I don’t think those actually trying to foist their chosen yardstick onto everyone else actually even understand that themselves.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 12:11:43 GMT
I absolutely get that. It’s the consistent failures. It’s the not having a plan. It’s the having a plan and not buying players for it. Not one manager since Hughes in his first 3 seasons has shown any kind of understanding of what’s going on at this club. They over complicate everything. I’ve got no time for them. Maybe, just maybe it’s a damn difficult job and you don’t fully understand the complexities fully. I think I’ve demonstrated that I understand the issues (the owners) more than most on this board.
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Post by flea79 on Jul 24, 2024 12:14:54 GMT
This was just posted on Facebook by the church group
“I'm hearing we are looking at getting rid of at least 5 more first team players.....baker....laurent...DJ....baker medhi.....and another one I can't mention..!...but he's loving stoke but told he can leave... also I'm told that the manager is like a puppet,so much power behind the scenes making decisions...”
Sure that some are likely but think the power bit could be over egged
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 24, 2024 12:17:16 GMT
I absolutely get that. It’s the consistent failures. It’s the not having a plan. It’s the having a plan and not buying players for it. Not one manager since Hughes in his first 3 seasons has shown any kind of understanding of what’s going on at this club. They over complicate everything. I’ve got no time for them. Maybe, just maybe it’s a damn difficult job and you don’t fully understand the complexities fully. That's just crazy talk. The reason they are paid hundreds of thousands is because it's a piece of piss. Fantasy football and Football Manager are examples how easy it is.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 24, 2024 12:18:15 GMT
Maybe, just maybe it’s a damn difficult job and you don’t fully understand the complexities fully. I think I’ve demonstrated that I understand the issues (the owners) more than most on this board. So the way you'd manage would be to get rid of the owners once you'd got the job? Ballsy.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 12:20:39 GMT
I think I’ve demonstrated that I understand the issues (the owners) more than most on this board. So the way you'd manage would be to get rid of the owners once you'd got the job? Ballsy. I’d totally bypass them. Or then do the sensible thing of taking my pay off and be a millionaire.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 24, 2024 12:22:43 GMT
Maybe, just maybe it’s a damn difficult job and you don’t fully understand the complexities fully. I think I’ve demonstrated that I understand the issues (the owners) more than most on this board. The structure should alleviate that problem. Peter just had horrible taste in football. Since JC took over I think the problem has been that he just seems to believe the next bullshitter he gets in the room, he has no actual beliefs so veres wildly from one thing to almost it’s polar opposite. Now he’s given that over to someone else. Only problem being we don’t know what his footballing beliefs are or whether they’re conflicting with those of the HC. Realistically as long as you give anyone free rein whatever their title the same thing can happen over and over.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 24, 2024 12:24:33 GMT
Maybe, just maybe it’s a damn difficult job and you don’t fully understand the complexities fully. I think I’ve demonstrated that I understand the issues (the owners) more than most on this board. What you're forgetting Bayern is that you couldn't run a coaching session, day in day out, week in week out, to save your life. Not many fans could. It's not just about picking the team and formation. I do also have my doubts about your man management skills sadly.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 24, 2024 12:25:29 GMT
Ok fair enough, but it gives us a clearer picture when we look at his whole tenure so far which shows the bad run we had over February and the good run we had in April/May. He still comes out of it quite well. Come on. If you like him focus on the start and the end of his tenure last season. If you don't, focus on the middle bit. Or as one eminent poster has pointed out if you take out the games we won his stats look awful.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 24, 2024 12:25:29 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-jay-stansfield-9433668They are not short of numbers but they want a quick and strong senior number 9 to come in to lead the line while Emre Tezgel and Nathan Lowe continue their development. It will be tricky to get it right – and Stoke are likely to want a couple of forwards, including this line leader – but it is better to be patient for the right fit in a Steven Schumacher side than rush to bring in a mistake.
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 24, 2024 12:25:37 GMT
This was just posted on Facebook by the church group “I'm hearing we are looking at getting rid of at least 5 more first team players.....baker....laurent...DJ....baker medhi.....and another one I can't mention..!...but he's loving stoke but told he can leave... also I'm told that the manager is like a puppet,so much power behind the scenes making decisions...” Sure that some are likely but think the power bit could be over egged We have 2 bakers?
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Post by flea79 on Jul 24, 2024 12:26:18 GMT
This was just posted on Facebook by the church group “I'm hearing we are looking at getting rid of at least 5 more first team players.....baker....laurent...DJ....baker medhi.....and another one I can't mention..!...but he's loving stoke but told he can leave... also I'm told that the manager is like a puppet,so much power behind the scenes making decisions...” Sure that some are likely but think the power bit could be over egged We have 2 bakers? Maybe one is a literal baker and makes bread and sweet pastries for the team?
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Post by delilahwhy on Jul 24, 2024 12:26:49 GMT
144,090 posts.
If you were to post once a day, every single day without fail, it would take you 395 years to reach that figure.
If you were to post once every hour, every single hour of the day, 24 hours a day, repeatedly without ever taking a break, it would take you 16 and a half years to reach that figure.
Just food for thought.
P.s. I appreciate this post is non-transfer related but if you can't beat em, join em.
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 24, 2024 12:27:53 GMT
Maybe one is a literal baker and makes bread and sweet pastries for the team? Possible, I don't think he's in the first team though.
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 24, 2024 12:29:27 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-jay-stansfield-9433668They are not short of numbers but they want a quick and strong senior number 9 to come in to lead the line while Emre Tezgel and Nathan Lowe continue their development. It will be tricky to get it right – and Stoke are likely to want a couple of forwards, including this line leader – but it is better to be patient for the right fit in a Steven Schumacher side than rush to bring in a mistake. Sod em FM, sod them all to hell!😉
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Post by flea79 on Jul 24, 2024 12:29:34 GMT
Maybe one is a literal baker and makes bread and sweet pastries for the team? Possible, I don't think he's in the first team though. We are light on numbers though, no suggesting he hasn’t had a trial over the summer!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 12:30:31 GMT
I think I’ve demonstrated that I understand the issues (the owners) more than most on this board. What you're forgetting Bayern is that you couldn't run a coaching session, day in day out, week in week out, to save your life. Not many fans could. It's not just about picking the team and formation. I do also have my doubts about your man management skills sadly. You couldn’t be more wrong re man management as this last week as highlighted tbh. Which for me has been lovely hearing some stories of stuff I’ve done without even realising that has helped the people that work for me And I couldn’t do a coaching session you are correct but I’d get a coach for that. Like Hughes used to do.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 24, 2024 12:31:24 GMT
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