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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 23, 2024 21:30:32 GMT
Has Cundle moved into Stone yet? Are we still in for him?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 23, 2024 21:30:33 GMT
We need an attacking cm, theres no goals in that midfield I’d play Johnson there until we get a new one in. Better playing there than Baker is There was a massive difference when Baker and Thompson were replaced, neither should be starting the new season. Both Johnson and Laurent were much more mobile and looked like they gave a shit.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 23, 2024 21:32:52 GMT
Hes an out and out 8. Doesn't have the discipline to just not run about for a 6. Played as a 6 he cuts out more attacks and wins more ball than any of the other options and does more with the ball and gets up the pitch at times too. He doesn’t just sit but rarely gets caught missing either. He’s far less effective further up field imo. I want him as an 8, exactly as you say not just sitting and not getting caught too far up. 6 is the most important position in a three to give the right platform and take the ball through the lines. I'd spend a good proportion of the budget on a good 6, if we don't get one, play Burger and 1 other as two slightly deeper 8s and get a quality 10.
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Post by bigun1863 on Jul 23, 2024 21:33:39 GMT
He won’t have to have left a list they’ll have been discussing potential targets with him for months. Do you think he just sat in an office alone and signed players?? For every one we signed he’ll have given a presentation on the attributes of at least 4/5. He’ll have been working on new targets for this Summer before we got shot of him unfathomably but it was rumoured he didn’t particularly have any contacts or scouts and was entirely IT based and that’s what JW didn’t want or like. His work until the day he left will be pretty common knowledge amongst the management team much of it preserved in the form of presentations, reports etc. After the madness of last summer when any player with a pulse were on Stokes radar because of necessity, things resumed to normality in the new year transfer market, Dublin explained last summer we could have some hits and we could have misses with the squad assembled, and fortunately he found maybe three players that could be very important in the future of Stoke City. Roll on to this summer and Dublin has left for reasons yet to be explained ? So after a first full season at Stoke where are the results of the supposed presentations, briefings and reports ? Did Dublin see the writing on the wall with Walters appointment, if as rumoured most of Dublin’s expertise was IT based he could work anywhere in the world and fulfill his role easily. Stoke only knew what Dublin shared with them and I doubt it was intellectually protected, so it will be quite interesting to see where he turns up and who he turns up ? I was told he didn’t like to be based at Clayton woods and it was a big issue for JW.
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Jul 23, 2024 21:42:23 GMT
Can’t start the season with Thompson at 6 though. As it stands Burger is the only one to start there IMO. Burgers a better footballer. Thompson is a better 6. I agree we need an upgrade at 6, Sidibe does look like he might be the real deal (I'd caveat that with he also looks like an 8 as he can cover the pitch.) The hardest thing to do as a DM is to hold your position. Burger, Laurent and Baker have all proved to be too prone to breaking the wrong lines to do this. For me Thompson isn’t better at anything than anyone in any position. If he’s anywhere near the starting line-up it’s going to be another disappointing season. Him and Gooch both woeful.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 23, 2024 21:46:35 GMT
Played as a 6 he cuts out more attacks and wins more ball than any of the other options and does more with the ball and gets up the pitch at times too. He doesn’t just sit but rarely gets caught missing either. He’s far less effective further up field imo. I want him as an 8, exactly as you say not just sitting and not getting caught too far up. 6 is the most important position in a three to give the right platform and take the ball through the lines. I'd spend a good proportion of the budget on a good 6, if we don't get one, play Burger and 1 other as two slightly deeper 8s and get a quality 10. It’s not how Schu wants to play. He wants to play a 1:2 midfield with only one deep lying midfielder. I don’t think we’ve got a better one or could afford a better one. I just don’t think we’ve got anyone other than Junho suitable for the two more advanced roles and the plan seems to be to play him as a wide left forward so effectively we have non. All I can say is that if you watched that tonight and concluded you’d spend a good portion of our budget on a deep lying midfielder you could possibly be insane. No doubt given your username you think Emre Tezgel could be a serious proposition to be our CF this season further confirming my diagnosis.
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jul 23, 2024 21:52:22 GMT
He is but I’d fancy most of them to do as much as he’s done here. I wouldn’t be shocked if he scored 15 league goals for another club this season but that was never going to happen here. I'd be shocked by that unless it was at Rangers He's way better than 3 a season though injured a lot too It was all set for a move to Rangers and for some reason Rangera pulled out of the deal towards the end of the season..(allegedly)
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 23, 2024 21:54:56 GMT
Can’t start the season with Thompson at 6 though. As it stands Burger is the only one to start there IMO. Burgers a better footballer. Thompson is a better 6. I agree we need an upgrade at 6, Sidibe does look like he might be the real deal (I'd caveat that with he also looks like an 8 as he can cover the pitch.) The hardest thing to do as a DM is to hold your position. Burger, Laurent and Baker have all proved to be too prone to breaking the wrong lines to do this. I think Burger started off great then we struggled and it seemed he tried to do it all and it didn't look great, that said with a settled system with all players knowing their roles he's an excellent player and probably a prem player in the making, in my opinion!
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2024 21:55:29 GMT
After the madness of last summer when any player with a pulse were on Stokes radar because of necessity, things resumed to normality in the new year transfer market, Dublin explained last summer we could have some hits and we could have misses with the squad assembled, and fortunately he found maybe three players that could be very important in the future of Stoke City. Roll on to this summer and Dublin has left for reasons yet to be explained ? So after a first full season at Stoke where are the results of the supposed presentations, briefings and reports ? Did Dublin see the writing on the wall with Walters appointment, if as rumoured most of Dublin’s expertise was IT based he could work anywhere in the world and fulfill his role easily. Stoke only knew what Dublin shared with them and I doubt it was intellectually protected, so it will be quite interesting to see where he turns up and who he turns up ? I was told he didn’t like to be based at Clayton woods and it was a big issue for JW. Bizarre if true, that's where the club operates from should be there
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Post by bigun1863 on Jul 23, 2024 22:00:06 GMT
I was told he didn’t like to be based at Clayton woods and it was a big issue for JW. Bizarre if true, that's where the club operates from should be there I get the odd bit of info from someone at the club And that’s what I was told.
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Post by jordan2009 on Jul 23, 2024 22:00:14 GMT
Has Cundle moved into Stone yet? Are we still in for him? It'll be gutting if he doesn't sign. He was the player that knitted us together. Very clever, busy, tidy one touch footballer
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Post by Jimm on Jul 23, 2024 22:02:05 GMT
Has Cundle moved into Stone yet? Are we still in for him? It'll be gutting if he doesn't sign. He was the player that knitted us together. Very clever, busy, tidy one touch footballer A couple of decent performances make it easy to forget how bang average he is
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Post by bolders on Jul 23, 2024 22:02:13 GMT
Has Cundle moved into Stone yet? Are we still in for him? It'll be gutting if he doesn't sign. He was the player that knitted us together. Very clever, busy, tidy one touch footballer I think we’ve got to make space for him first to come so that means at least 2 mids going
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2024 22:04:36 GMT
Better to manage expectations. According to some we’ll be fine to kick off with Ennis, Tezgel and Mmaee as our striker options and Mmaee isn’t even fit yet. I was questioning why folk were surprised at our impotence in front of goal and maybe the words ‘a bit’ were tinged with the irony that you often miss in many other threads. That is fine though. It’s not fine to end the window with it. I still think 4 new first teamers only sees us competing for midtable though. But again that is fine.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2024 22:06:17 GMT
Has Cundle moved into Stone yet? Are we still in for him? It'll be gutting if he doesn't sign. He was the player that knitted us together. Very clever, busy, tidy one touch footballer He had 3 good games 🤣
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jul 23, 2024 22:07:07 GMT
Major plus points for me tonight were Sidibe and Laurent - Sidibe especially looked excellent and found his man down the right wing every time.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 23, 2024 22:16:24 GMT
I want him as an 8, exactly as you say not just sitting and not getting caught too far up. 6 is the most important position in a three to give the right platform and take the ball through the lines. I'd spend a good proportion of the budget on a good 6, if we don't get one, play Burger and 1 other as two slightly deeper 8s and get a quality 10. It’s not how Schu wants to play. He wants to play a 1:2 midfield with only one deep lying midfielder. I don’t think we’ve got a better one or could afford a better one. I just don’t think we’ve got anyone other than Junho suitable for the two more advanced roles and the plan seems to be to play him as a wide left forward so effectively we have non. All I can say is that if you watched that tonight and concluded you’d spend a good portion of our budget on a deep lying midfielder you could possibly be insane. No doubt given your username you think Emre Tezgel could be a serious proposition to be our CF this season further confirming my diagnosis. You are a strange strange person.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 23, 2024 22:16:52 GMT
Major plus points for me tonight were Sidibe and Laurent - Sidibe especially looked excellent and found his man down the right wing every time. Hes going to be absolutely class.
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Post by loustokiefc on Jul 23, 2024 22:20:03 GMT
Schuey in his post match interview said he is hoping to have a ‘few’ in by the Bolton game, which is only next Tuesday. Happy days. Should be a busy week then lads
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Post by baconburger on Jul 23, 2024 22:20:45 GMT
It'll be gutting if he doesn't sign. He was the player that knitted us together. Very clever, busy, tidy one touch footballer He had 3 good games 🤣 3 games in which he made the system function in a way the likes of Baker never will. Laurent who you despise did more to make things happen tonight in 30 mins than Baker did in 60 and neither are suitable for the role.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 23, 2024 22:30:14 GMT
Has Cundle moved into Stone yet? Are we still in for him? It'll be gutting if he doesn't sign. He was the player that knitted us together. Very clever, busy, tidy one touch footballer I’m sure there must be other players with a similar game. Don’t get hooked up on names we need two of that type though I agree. The players we keep trying to play in advanced midfield positions are hopeless at that quick intricate one touch stuff in and around the opposition box. They always want more time and one more touch.
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 23, 2024 22:41:11 GMT
Schuey in his post match interview said he is hoping to have a ‘few’ in by the Bolton game, which is only next Tuesday. Happy days. Should be a busy week then lads Let’s hope so.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 24, 2024 5:40:06 GMT
It'll be gutting if he doesn't sign. He was the player that knitted us together. Very clever, busy, tidy one touch footballer A couple of decent performances make it easy to forget how bang average he is Or it took him time to settle and he finally found his feet?
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Post by st3mark on Jul 24, 2024 7:15:46 GMT
It'll be gutting if he doesn't sign. He was the player that knitted us together. Very clever, busy, tidy one touch footballer He had 3 good games 🤣 Most people realise players of his age aren't at it every week and that over the 6 months it's clear that there's a good player there. He looked as good as or better than Delap, Clarke and Bidace did here and look what they are worth now. Cundle is an essential signing this window before Hull get him and sell him for £18million.
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 24, 2024 7:21:08 GMT
Both Baker and Laurant seem to be figuring heavily in pre season, yet some on here seen to think they will both be off?. Can we see them both being sold?.
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Post by st3mark on Jul 24, 2024 7:22:37 GMT
Key word 'hopefully' also he says by Bolton or Alkmaar.
The positive is the term few means we're likely communicating with at least three at this stage. Fits in with Choppers info.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 24, 2024 7:36:14 GMT
Most people realise players of his age aren't at it every week and that over the 6 months it's clear that there's a good player there. He looked as good as or better than Delap, Clarke and Bidace did here and look what they are worth now. Cundle is an essential signing this window before Hull get him and sell him for £18million. We seem to have plenty of supporters who give a player 20 minutes at most. Unless they are homegrown. Then they get a free pass for life.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 24, 2024 7:46:59 GMT
Most people realise players of his age aren't at it every week and that over the 6 months it's clear that there's a good player there. He looked as good as or better than Delap, Clarke and Bidace did here and look what they are worth now. Cundle is an essential signing this window before Hull get him and sell him for £18million. We seem to have plenty of supporters who give a player 20 minutes at most. Unless they are homegrown. Then they get a free pass for life. He had plenty of time and didn’t show enough. He got a free pass based on 3 games. Like the manager. Like Hoever. Like Laurent. 2 of them definitely aren’t good enough. Cundle with his age could but we shouldn’t be spending a penny on him based on him showing up for 3 games in a 6 month loan.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 24, 2024 7:47:21 GMT
Schuey in his post match interview said he is hoping to have a ‘few’ in by the Bolton game, which is only next Tuesday. Happy days. Should be a busy week then lads May be a little hurry up messaging going on it’s par for the course the one two we really need are the top end of the pitch we are currently in a worse position than last year and it’s the only area we are but it’s by some distance
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Post by hd51 on Jul 24, 2024 7:49:12 GMT
Both Baker and Laurant seem to be figuring heavily in pre season, yet some on here seen to think they will both be off?. Can we see them both being sold?. From solely watching preseason, I would be very surprised if Baker was to go. I think I'm right in saying he has started every game and last night played 60 minutes in the so called 'starting 11'. This said though can we just be trying to shop him about to teams hoping for a good performance. Laurent has had 'injuries' and has also been demoted from captain so i can definitely see him going.
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