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Post by Northy on Jul 23, 2024 7:06:11 GMT
I wouldn't want to sell either Bae or Burger but if we have to then we must make sure it doesn't drag on too long, as we need to ensure we have time to get quality replacements in. The last thing we need is a late panic scramble on deadline day. and be left with Baker, Pearson, Laurent, Thompson plus Sidibe.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 23, 2024 7:07:17 GMT
£8million profit on Burger would that be? It's the model we always wanted isn't it? No problem with the model. Don’t think we should settle for that fee or be losing players to Sheff Utd. If it’s a prem club £15M or don’t bother picking up the phone. I don’t actually think either Burger or Junho are ready for premier league moves even though I rate both very highly they still have stuff to improve on at this level. It would be in our best interests financially and on the pitch to see if anyone wants to bite in January. I personally wouldn’t sell this summer unless a remarkable bid comes in which it wont
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 23, 2024 7:12:49 GMT
Sadly it's how we have to work until and if we get promoted. We have to make sure when we do sell on, it's for top dollar. There is no loyalty in players these days, by and large, as agents will hawk their clients around, because a move and the financial rewards it brings to them is what a player employs them for, that said I envisaged both Jun ho and Burger being here at least another season...
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 23, 2024 7:13:06 GMT
The longer you follow Fletcher, the more you realise he hasn’t got a clue.
Most of his rumours are just fence-sitting tweets which covers all areas so he can say that he’s right. Then the other times he just finds what other journos are saying and repeats what they’ve said.
Think the other day someone said United are looking to sell Mason Mount and then 10mins after they tweeted that, he tweeted ‘keep an eye on mason mount’.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 23, 2024 7:13:12 GMT
£8million profit on Burger would that be? It's the model we always wanted isn't it? Wheres the next Burger and Bae coming from to continue this model ? Wherever you want. I didn't agree with getting rid of Jared but they will know all his targets down to academy kids.
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Post by hancockscfc on Jul 23, 2024 7:13:56 GMT
£8million profit on Burger would that be? It's the model we always wanted isn't it? and if we sell Bae , another decent profit , not bad after 12 months , but makes it all more strange we get rid of the guy who found them 🤷♂️🤦♂️ I’m assuming this was Walter’s wish, or that they had a falling out? I think Walters possibly follows the route of proven EFL players etc but in truth, Darnborough AND Dublin would have been a good mix. Aside from Jojic, who is a rough diamond, I can’t complain at any of the Dublin players.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 23, 2024 7:14:01 GMT
There's no way stoke would let bae, burger, Laurent and baker to leave in one transfer window 😆😏 There's always queries and negotiations regarding players. I bet they would.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 23, 2024 7:14:47 GMT
No problem with the model. Don’t think we should settle for that fee or be losing players to Sheff Utd. If it’s a prem club £15M or don’t bother picking up the phone. I don’t actually think either Burger or Junho are ready for premier league moves even though I rate both very highly they still have stuff to improve on at this level. It would be in our best interests financially and on the pitch to see if anyone wants to bite in January. I personally wouldn’t sell this summer unless a remarkable bid comes in which it wont Everyone has their price I’m not sure what would be remarkable . If we don’t want to sell we should ask for an inflated fee but selling our jewels to any other championship clubs would be a bitter pill to swallow indeed. I think that would anger a lot of fans and lose a lot of goodwill.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 23, 2024 7:16:41 GMT
It would be in our best interests financially and on the pitch to see if anyone wants to bite in January. I personally wouldn’t sell this summer unless a remarkable bid comes in which it wont Everyone has their price I’m not sure what would be remarkable . If we don’t want to sell we should ask for an inflated fee but selling our jewels to any other championship clubs would be a bitter pill to swallow indeed. I think that would anger a lot of fans and lose a lot of goodwill. Yes, it’s one thing loaning fringe players to rivals, quite another selling them our best assets. Can’t see it happening
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Post by st3mark on Jul 23, 2024 7:26:30 GMT
£8million profit on Burger would that be? It's the model we always wanted isn't it? Wheres the next Burger and Bae coming from to continue this model ? You realise that's not my job don't you?
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 23, 2024 7:31:25 GMT
I have to say if selling all those midfield players is on the agenda this window, we are in trouble, that would be almost an entire midfield reset and 2 weeks from the season starting, very disruptive.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 23, 2024 7:35:06 GMT
Birmingham journo re Stansfield
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Post by st3mark on Jul 23, 2024 7:39:09 GMT
I have to say if selling all those midfield players is on the agenda this window, we are in trouble, that would be almost an entire midfield reset and 2 weeks from the season starting, very disruptive. We were on the verge of relegation last season with this squad anyway. We've not done anything drastic to change that so I'm fine with the squad getting disrupted. Baker and Laurent have already proven they aren't top 6 midfielders and if we get good fees for Burger and Bae we will treble our transfer kitty. I don't want Burger and Bae to go but we've lost far more important players to the team in the past. When Thorne and Kavanagh left we probably lost 40 goals a season between them in a short space of time (and still improved), whereas Burger and Bae will probably get us 15 between them even if we are lucky. Buy and sell, buy and sell. This is the way.
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Post by st3mark on Jul 23, 2024 7:39:55 GMT
Birmingham journo re Stansfield If he goes there I'll eat my own arsehole
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 23, 2024 7:41:29 GMT
£8million profit on Burger would that be? It's the model we always wanted isn't it? No problem with the model. Don’t think we should settle for that fee or be losing players to Sheff Utd. If it’s a prem club £15M or don’t bother picking up the phone. I don’t actually think either Burger or Junho are ready for premier league moves even though I rate both very highly they still have stuff to improve on at this level. Sheff Utd with parachute money? Surely they'd blow us out of the water.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 23, 2024 7:43:34 GMT
Birmingham journo re Stansfield If he goes there I'll eat my own arsehole Bookmarked Who was the poster last year who said he'd eat his own shit if something that did happen happened?
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Post by jordan2009 on Jul 23, 2024 7:44:50 GMT
Birmingham journo re Stansfield If he goes there I'll eat my own arsehole I don't really see Burger as being a Spurs kind of player. I'm not sure he's at that level yet. A type of move like Fulham for me is the more sensible move for him. Could we be looking at Stansfield coming the other way for a season and then a view to a permanent move next summer I'd rather us keep Burger tbh
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 23, 2024 7:45:03 GMT
And by January even bigger clubs will be knocking the door for Million who might well be the best of the 3 He really isn’t. Love his positivity and directness and he could end up turning us another tidy profit but technically he’s not in their league or even close to it. You are mental. Bae Million Burger In that order. Wasn’t Millions output better then Bae? And he played half the games. (I don’t know, hence the question mark).
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 23, 2024 7:46:25 GMT
Che Adams signed for Torino on a 3 year deal then. Good for him..
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 23, 2024 7:47:56 GMT
£8million profit on Burger would that be? It's the model we always wanted isn't it? No problem with the model. Don’t think we should settle for that fee or be losing players to Sheff Utd. If it’s a prem club £15M or don’t bother picking up the phone. I don’t actually think either Burger or Junho are ready for premier league moves even though I rate both very highly they still have stuff to improve on at this level. Sheff Utd are a club with Parachute payments and likely to recieve additional funds from Berge transfer. And if that’s the case, I can see Burger going to Burnley.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 23, 2024 7:49:40 GMT
and if we sell Bae , another decent profit , not bad after 12 months , but makes it all more strange we get rid of the guy who found them 🤷♂️🤦♂️ I’m assuming this was Walter’s wish, or that they had a falling out? I think Walters possibly follows the route of proven EFL players etc but in truth, Darnborough AND Dublin would have been a good mix. Aside from Jojic, who is a rough diamond, I can’t complain at any of the Dublin players. I’ve been saying this since he went. There’s a place for both of them 100%. Especially the importance of player recruitment.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 23, 2024 7:50:29 GMT
He really isn’t. Love his positivity and directness and he could end up turning us another tidy profit but technically he’s not in their league or even close to it. You are mental. Bae Million Burger In that order. Wasn’t Millions output better then Bae? And he played half the games. (I don’t know, hence the question mark). It sure was!
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 23, 2024 7:53:56 GMT
You are mental. Bae Million Burger In that order. Wasn’t Millions output better then Bae? And he played half the games. (I don’t know, hence the question mark). It sure was! And he could have had about 5 more if he scored his 1v1s
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Post by baconburger on Jul 23, 2024 7:54:37 GMT
He really isn’t. Love his positivity and directness and he could end up turning us another tidy profit but technically he’s not in their league or even close to it. You are mental. Bae Million Burger In that order. Wasn’t Millions output better then Bae? And he played half the games. (I don’t know, hence the question mark). He really isn’t a particularly technical player. If he gets a chance to play at a higher level he’d struggle more than the other two. Manhoef goal involvement every 3 games give or take Junho every 5 games. Neither are prolific by comparison Szmodics goal involvement every 1.4 games last season. Don’t get carried away non of our attacking players are prolific.
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Post by onefatcopper on Jul 23, 2024 7:54:58 GMT
Wheres the next Burger and Bae coming from to continue this model ? Wherever you want. I didn't agree with getting rid of Jared but they will know all his targets down to academy kids. I doubt he left a list of potential targets for now or in the future, can you imagine his new employers when they ask what he has up his sleeve and he informs them nothing ! I left everything behind for Stoke to take first pick ? His contacts, statistics, scouts and player data are his bargaining chip when it comes to his terms and conditions for any future employment.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 23, 2024 7:55:30 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Jul 23, 2024 7:59:19 GMT
Wherever you want. I didn't agree with getting rid of Jared but they will know all his targets down to academy kids. I doubt he left a list of potential targets for now or in the future, can you imagine his new employers when they ask what he has up his sleeve and he informs them nothing ! I left everything behind for Stoke to take first pick ? His contacts, statistics, scouts and player data are his bargaining chip when it comes to his terms and conditions for any future employment. He won’t have to have left a list they’ll have been discussing potential targets with him for months. Do you think he just sat in an office alone and signed players?? For every one we signed he’ll have given a presentation on the attributes of at least 4/5. He’ll have been working on new targets for this Summer before we got shot of him unfathomably but it was rumoured he didn’t particularly have any contacts or scouts and was entirely IT based and that’s what JW didn’t want or like. His work until the day he left will be pretty common knowledge amongst the management team much of it preserved in the form of presentations, reports etc.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 23, 2024 8:00:35 GMT
You are mental. Bae Million Burger In that order. Wasn’t Millions output better then Bae? And he played half the games. (I don’t know, hence the question mark). He really isn’t a particularly technical player. If he gets a chance to play at a higher level he’d struggle more than the other two. Manhoef goal involvement every 3 games give or take Junho every 5 games. Neither are prolific by comparison Szmodics goal involvement every 1.4 games last season. Don’t get carried away non of our attacking players are prolific. Mental. He’s probably 2nd or 3rd behind Bae and Mmaee (he’s a very technical player if you don’t let your opinion get in the way). 1 in 3 across a whole season is 15 goals he’d be our top scorer since we came down 😂😂 and that is coming into a struggling team with no attacking output half way through a season being thrown in the deep end and having to learn to swim, quickly. I think you’re being very very harsh. Szmodics had a great season, let’s see if he does it again before we pin up a poster.
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Post by retrostoke on Jul 23, 2024 8:07:10 GMT
And by January even bigger clubs will be knocking the door for Million who might well be the best of the 3 He really isn’t. Love his positivity and directness and he could end up turning us another tidy profit but technically he’s not in their league or even close to it. He will score 15 goals this season. There will be clubs asking
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 23, 2024 8:13:49 GMT
I have to say I did think we would have a couple more in before some of these friendlies, I guess there must be lots going on in the background, but would have been nice to see a new face before the weekend.
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