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Post by thornestein on Jul 20, 2024 14:58:27 GMT
Clubs like a Stoke City don’t sign 12-15 goals per season championship strikers as we couldn’t afford them We have to hope we hit on or bring someone through the academy Wouldn’t take a massive improvement he hit double figures last season. If Schu sets us up Uber attackingly it wouldn’t be out of the question. he did , but doesn’t mean he’s going do it again , never been prolific as he , wasn’t last season his best to date ?
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Post by leegthestokie90 on Jul 20, 2024 15:07:24 GMT
Ennis MMaee Assante and Cannon would be a very good central forward lineup for a club in our position at the moment add mcburnie as well we need a target man like him
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Post by baconburger on Jul 20, 2024 15:30:54 GMT
Wouldn’t take a massive improvement he hit double figures last season. If Schu sets us up Uber attackingly it wouldn’t be out of the question. he did , but doesn’t mean he’s going do it again , never been prolific as he , wasn’t last season his best to date ? Just coming towards his peak years. I'd be interested as to what you'd consider to be an attainable prolific CF. I think I'd prefer him or McBurnie out of the names linked. I've seen them play and think they have attributes we need. I know next to nothing about Cannon but his stats seem OK too. I'd normally be happy with another punt on a young player from abroad but I think our CF situation demands something more proven and I'd strongly prefer that to be on a perm. I'm pretty open minded about who we get but I do think whoever they are needs to be a combative type CF.
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Post by thornestein on Jul 20, 2024 15:38:12 GMT
he did , but doesn’t mean he’s going do it again , never been prolific as he , wasn’t last season his best to date ? Just coming towards his peak years. I'd be interested as to what you'd consider to be an attainable prolific CF. I think I'd prefer him or McBurnie out of the names linked. I've seen them play and think they have attributes we need. I know next to nothing about Cannon but his stats seem OK too. I'd normally be happy with another punt on a young player from abroad but I think our CF situation demands something more proven and I'd strongly prefer that to be on a perm. I'm pretty open minded about who we get but I do think whoever they are needs to be a combative type CF. forwards are expensive, i don’t know who’s available, i just think a big lump is the old ways of doing things , when you play a front 3 , which i think we will , you need more mobile and players who are interchangeable
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Post by baconburger on Jul 20, 2024 15:39:42 GMT
Ennis MMaee Assante and Cannon would be a very good central forward lineup for a club in our position at the moment add mcburnie as well we need a target man like him He'd have to be instead of one of them not as well as surely? BTA, probably McBurnie will want a lot more wages, probably more expensive over the course of his contract even without a fee. BTA has never been a premier league player so I'd imagine he'll settle for a lot lower wage than McBurnie. He(McBurnie) also can't play off the left like BTA which would be handy if we were to take Cannon on loan for instance. You want all your expensive high profile signings to be on the pitch at the same time ideally, that means you don't want two forwards who can only play up the middle.(As in other posts I've made I don't even know if that's true of Cannon)
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Post by baconburger on Jul 20, 2024 15:47:13 GMT
Just coming towards his peak years. I'd be interested as to what you'd consider to be an attainable prolific CF. I think I'd prefer him or McBurnie out of the names linked. I've seen them play and think they have attributes we need. I know next to nothing about Cannon but his stats seem OK too. I'd normally be happy with another punt on a young player from abroad but I think our CF situation demands something more proven and I'd strongly prefer that to be on a perm. I'm pretty open minded about who we get but I do think whoever they are needs to be a combative type CF. forwards are expensive, i don’t know who’s available, i just think a big lump is the old ways of doing things , when you play a front 3 , which i think we will , you need more mobile and players who are interchangeable Well BTA is extremely mobile and versatile. I know they call it 433 but Junho and Manhoef don't really play like forwards they operate deeper and much more like midfielders which leaves the central striker as basically a lone forward that need good physicality. The other type are your Archer's and Stansfield's, less physical, less attainable, more goals, very unlikely to be permanent transfers. Ideally I'd like one of each.
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Post by thornestein on Jul 20, 2024 16:00:22 GMT
forwards are expensive, i don’t know who’s available, i just think a big lump is the old ways of doing things , when you play a front 3 , which i think we will , you need more mobile and players who are interchangeable Well BTA is extremely mobile and versatile. I know they call it 433 but Junho and Manhoef don't really play like forwards they operate deeper and much more like midfielders which leaves the central striker as basically a lone forward that need good physicality. The other type are your Archer's and Stansfield's, less physical, less attainable, more goals, very unlikely to be permanent transfers. Ideally I'd like one of each. ideally yes , but is it affordable with ffp , maybe a punt from abroad , which Jared did ok at
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Post by kerouac on Jul 20, 2024 16:13:34 GMT
That’s a very good point,footy has changed so much. Not for the better. Can anyone really say they find the game more exciting/entertaining from the days when CF’s actually led the line and scored goals?? I agree.
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Post by strettonstokie on Jul 20, 2024 16:56:13 GMT
Ennis MMaee Assante and Cannon would be a very good central forward lineup for a club in our position at the moment add mcburnie as well we need a target man like him I think mcburnie would be instead of asante, unless Ennis leaves then we might go down that route but can't see him here if I'm honest
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Post by baconburger on Jul 20, 2024 17:03:05 GMT
Well BTA is extremely mobile and versatile. I know they call it 433 but Junho and Manhoef don't really play like forwards they operate deeper and much more like midfielders which leaves the central striker as basically a lone forward that need good physicality. The other type are your Archer's and Stansfield's, less physical, less attainable, more goals, very unlikely to be permanent transfers. Ideally I'd like one of each. ideally yes , but is it affordable with ffp , maybe a punt from abroad , which Jared did ok at I think it is affordable. I think we've a lot more FFP headroom than many imagine. I think 1 of McBurnie, BTA, maybe even Cannon are attainable as permanent transfers. An Archer or Stansfield would almost certainly be on loan. I think Jared did quite brilliantly to unearth the gems he did for us last season, maybe even better than we know if Bocat was one of his and turns out good. I think we're really weak in the forward dept particularly centrally. I'd have to accept a punt if that's what we do but it's not my favoured solution, I think we've been too long without a CF worthy of that title.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 20, 2024 17:06:11 GMT
add mcburnie as well we need a target man like him I think mcburnie would be instead of asante, unless Ennis leaves then we might go down that route but can't see him here if I'm honest Yup I'd definitely expect it to be either or not both and I'd be pretty pleased with either but that alone would not be enough to solve our forward line and it's lack of firepower.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 20, 2024 17:12:01 GMT
I actually prefer Assante to most of the other strikers linked to us because we know what we will get, and that is exactly what we have been missing since relegation, pace and power. I really like his agressive style too so he is my preferred choice. If not I'd hope for the striker that was at Wednesday last season, but even Mcburnie would be a good alternative to bring in. I'm unsure about Cannon to be honest, and when it comes to Stansfield I'm also a bit undecided. As long as we don't have to pay more than £3M for Assante I'd certainly go for him.
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Post by strettonstokie on Jul 20, 2024 17:32:13 GMT
I think mcburnie would be instead of asante, unless Ennis leaves then we might go down that route but can't see him here if I'm honest Yup I'd definitely expect it to be either or not both and I'd be pretty pleased with either but that alone would not be enough to solve our forward line and it's lack of firepower. Definitely one of them with also cannon/stansfield on loan would be pretty much us sorted in that position
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Post by lordb on Jul 20, 2024 17:41:05 GMT
There's nothing to suggest Stansfield will be available on loan this window 20+ clubs will be after Cannon
We have obviously have some budget for a striker, would expect Stoke are being approached daily by agents from accross Europe and further afield
Stoke need to be thinking very clearly about who they want
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Post by baconburger on Jul 20, 2024 17:45:08 GMT
There's nothing to suggest Stansfield will be available on loan this window 20+ clubs will be after Cannon We have obviously have some budget for a striker, would expect Stoke are being approached daily by agents from accross Europe and further afield Stoke need to be thinking very clearly about who they want There's nothing to suggest he won't either(Stansfield) unless you believe football clubs always stick to their every utterance.
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Post by tommystoke123 on Jul 20, 2024 20:55:42 GMT
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Post by karl on Jul 20, 2024 21:08:09 GMT
Wonder how much Brandon Thomas-Asante would cost us if they have already rejected our 2 million bid.
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 20, 2024 21:19:31 GMT
Wonder how much Brandon Thomas-Asante would cost us if they have already rejected our 2 million bid. Only 25 I’d say 2m is a little low 3-4m I’d say is more realistic in the current climate.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 20, 2024 21:20:47 GMT
Wonder how much Brandon Thomas-Asante would cost us if they have already rejected our 2 million bid. Only 25 I’d say 2m is a little low 3-4m I’d say is more realistic in the current climate. I think it’s too much. He looks useless We have to be scouting europe for a striker surely
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Post by lordb on Jul 20, 2024 21:25:45 GMT
There's nothing to suggest Stansfield will be available on loan this window 20+ clubs will be after Cannon We have obviously have some budget for a striker, would expect Stoke are being approached daily by agents from accross Europe and further afield Stoke need to be thinking very clearly about who they want There's nothing to suggest he won't either(Stansfield) unless you believe football clubs always stick to their every utterance. Of course not but it would be unusual to say such a thing, would get it if they were trying to sell him and looking to inflate a fee but to say he's not going on loan... What would be the point os saying such a thing if it wasn't what they mean? What would they gain from it? Seems far fetched to see him her on loan this window Really struggling to see a striker from the UK market that fits the bill being attainable
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Post by lordb on Jul 20, 2024 21:27:39 GMT
Wonder how much Brandon Thomas-Asante would cost us if they have already rejected our 2 million bid. Only 25 I’d say 2m is a little low 3-4m I’d say is more realistic in the current climate. See the logic Don’t rate him tbh If we did sign him hope I'm wrong
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 20, 2024 21:28:24 GMT
Only 25 I’d say 2m is a little low 3-4m I’d say is more realistic in the current climate. I think it’s too much. He looks useless We have to be scouting europe for a striker surely I think we’ll go for one of each one homegrown and one euro. Better value in europe but bigger risk as they may take time to settle.
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Post by lordb on Jul 20, 2024 21:34:44 GMT
I think it’s too much. He looks useless We have to be scouting europe for a striker surely I think we’ll go for one of each one homegrown and one euro. Better value in europe but bigger risk as they may take time to settle. Don’t think we have the budget for that 1 striker in
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Post by paulkoz on Jul 20, 2024 22:34:35 GMT
Does anyone actually know where we stand with FFP?
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Post by st3mark on Jul 20, 2024 22:46:47 GMT
Wonder how much Brandon Thomas-Asante would cost us if they have already rejected our 2 million bid. Only 25 I’d say 2m is a little low 3-4m I’d say is more realistic in the current climate. Did he sign a new contract then? I thought our low offer last time was because he was entering his last year of his contract this season. If he hasn't extended then our next offer would be even lower surely
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 21, 2024 6:58:08 GMT
Nixon posted yesterday he will have some news regarding us today.
He just posted "Blackburn try to bake up a deal". Not subscribed to him but I assume he means Lewis Baker
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Post by tommystoke123 on Jul 21, 2024 6:59:40 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 21, 2024 7:04:44 GMT
"Midfield general"... not how I'd describe him.
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Post by etebojan on Jul 21, 2024 7:13:42 GMT
So Baker & Laurent could be leaving. Interest in Bae and Burger, we could need a massive rebuild in midfield, from currently having considerable strength in depth, and yet we still haven't addressed the flipping lack of Strikers!
I hope there is a plan Mr Walters....and not we're leaving it till just before deadline day and realising we've got a completely unbalanced squad again
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Post by etebojan on Jul 21, 2024 7:17:56 GMT
"Midfield general"... not how I'd describe him. "Officer in charge of one long range wonder-goal a season"
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