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Post by Wizbit on Jul 19, 2024 9:03:59 GMT
Reports suggesting it’s agreed so I wouldn’t be so sure. Care to share these reports? Please and thank you. Some would say he hasn't played that much in the championship
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 19, 2024 9:26:00 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 19, 2024 9:39:20 GMT
Really highly thought of and has been linked to a lot of clubs already Am I right in thinking he’s a RM / RW? No he's a CM but can cover pretty much anywhere. Central Midfield 112 5 3 Defensive Midfield 30 2 2 Attacking Midfield 24 5 2 Right Winger 23 3 - Centre-Forward 5 - - Left Winger 4 1 3 Left Midfield 2 - - Right Midfield 1 1 Those are his times played at position and goals and assists from Transfermarkt.com
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Post by lordb on Jul 19, 2024 10:20:12 GMT
I'm not seeing him as a goalscorer, he would Score about 10 I think, not the 15+ wasn't clear He scored 20 in his last season at this level. I’d much prefer to get him or BTA who it seems we no longer have any interest in on a perm than Cannon or just about anyone else on loan. Of course there’s nothing to say that we can’t have both. someone else said he got 13, if that's right & in a promotion team that's why I was thinking of around 10 for us if he's going to bang in the goals get him in
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Post by lordb on Jul 19, 2024 10:21:26 GMT
He scored 20 in his last season at this level. I’d much prefer to get him or BTA who it seems we no longer have any interest in on a perm than Cannon or just about anyone else on loan. Of course there’s nothing to say that we can’t have both. Good combinations McBurnie perm, Stansfield loan. BTA perm, Cannon loan. The versatility of Stansfield and BTA means you get both signings on the pitch at the same time. I’m not sure if that applies to Cannon I don’t know how versatile he is. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him play. thought Stansfield was staying at Fulham this year?
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 19, 2024 10:26:00 GMT
Good combinations McBurnie perm, Stansfield loan. BTA perm, Cannon loan. The versatility of Stansfield and BTA means you get both signings on the pitch at the same time. I’m not sure if that applies to Cannon I don’t know how versatile he is. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him play. thought Stansfield was staying at Fulham this year? Fulham has pretty much said that themselves
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Post by etebojan on Jul 19, 2024 11:57:39 GMT
are the squad back in Stoke yet or still in Ireland?
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Post by baconburger on Jul 19, 2024 12:13:52 GMT
thought Stansfield was staying at Fulham this year? Fulham has pretty much said that themselves Pretty sure that will depend on what business they do themselves. It’s not really a rare event for a club to say one thing and do the opposite.
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 19, 2024 12:51:30 GMT
I can see us going into the season half cooked in relation to the striker role. In relation to the rest of the squad midfield a little light but defensively stronger. Hope Sidibe gets his chance.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 19, 2024 12:57:46 GMT
I can see us going into the season half cooked in relation to the striker role. In relation to the rest of the squad midfield a little light but defensively stronger. Hope Sidibe gets his chance. After watching the Euros I'm wondering whether teams even need a striker? England got to a final without one (even though he was standing somewhere on the pitch) Lakaku and Ronaldo (played as a striker) should have stayed at home, and I think Spain might have been even better without Morata tbh. All the strikers seemed to have more of a negative influence on their teams, and their teams depended on them too much. (same with Hojlund and Lewandowski who were also very poor)
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Post by kerouac on Jul 19, 2024 13:01:51 GMT
I can see us going into the season half cooked in relation to the striker role. In relation to the rest of the squad midfield a little light but defensively stronger. Hope Sidibe gets his chance. After watching the Euros I'm wondering whether teams even need a striker? England got to a final without one (even though he was standing somewhere on the pitch) Lakaku and Ronaldo (played as a striker) should have stayed at home, and I think Spain might have been even better without Morata tbh. All the strikers seemed to have more of a negative influence on their teams, and their teams depended on them too much. That’s a very good point,footy has changed so much.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 19, 2024 13:04:53 GMT
After watching the Euros I'm wondering whether teams even need a striker? England got to a final without one (even though he was standing somewhere on the pitch) Lakaku and Ronaldo (played as a striker) should have stayed at home, and I think Spain might have been even better without Morata tbh. All the strikers seemed to have more of a negative influence on their teams, and their teams depended on them too much. That’s a very good point,footy has changed so much. Not for the better. Can anyone really say they find the game more exciting/entertaining from the days when CF’s actually led the line and scored goals??
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 19, 2024 13:13:13 GMT
That’s a very good point,footy has changed so much. Not for the better. Can anyone really say they find the game more exciting/entertaining from the days when CF’s actually led the line and scored goals?? Absolutely not. The death of two up top and emergence of the lone striker has killed football in the last decade or so.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 19, 2024 13:18:23 GMT
Not for the better. Can anyone really say they find the game more exciting/entertaining from the days when CF’s actually led the line and scored goals?? Absolutely not. The death of two up top and emergence of the lone striker has killed football in the last decade or so. some of those lone strikers have started to look very lonely indeed.
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Post by jordan2009 on Jul 19, 2024 14:00:48 GMT
I can see us going into the season half cooked in relation to the striker role. In relation to the rest of the squad midfield a little light but defensively stronger. Hope Sidibe gets his chance. After watching the Euros I'm wondering whether teams even need a striker? England got to a final without one (even though he was standing somewhere on the pitch) Lakaku and Ronaldo (played as a striker) should have stayed at home, and I think Spain might have been even better without Morata tbh. All the strikers seemed to have more of a negative influence on their teams, and their teams depended on them too much. (same with Hojlund and Lewandowski who were also very poor) Shearer and Liniker were on about this on their podcast the other day. The traditional number 9 is all but dead
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 19, 2024 14:08:14 GMT
After watching the Euros I'm wondering whether teams even need a striker? England got to a final without one (even though he was standing somewhere on the pitch) Lakaku and Ronaldo (played as a striker) should have stayed at home, and I think Spain might have been even better without Morata tbh. All the strikers seemed to have more of a negative influence on their teams, and their teams depended on them too much. (same with Hojlund and Lewandowski who were also very poor) Shearer and Liniker were on about this on their podcast the other day. The traditional number 9 is all but dead Are there any takes on how we got to this point in the modern game??? Is it to do with the way defences set up? Most negative features of the modern game are attributed to Pep, but then he uses a beast as a No.9 who scored for fun?
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Post by loustokiefc on Jul 19, 2024 14:11:44 GMT
I can see us going into the season half cooked in relation to the striker role. In relation to the rest of the squad midfield a little light but defensively stronger. Hope Sidibe gets his chance. Ridiculous if we do go into the season light in attack. We’ve had since January to prepare. There are enough strikers out there that would improve us at the right price. We shoulda been ready to get a deal done come the beginning of the window. There can’t be any excuses about us not having the finances this time either. Not to mention the fact that we let Tye go too
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 19, 2024 14:23:07 GMT
Shearer and Liniker were on about this on their podcast the other day. The traditional number 9 is all but dead Are there any takes on how we got to this point in the modern game??? Is it to do with the way defences set up? Most negative features of the modern game are attributed to Pep, but then he uses a beast as a No.9 who scored for fun? Spain, Pep, Tiki Taka, Inverted Wingers.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 19, 2024 14:53:26 GMT
Shearer and Liniker were on about this on their podcast the other day. The traditional number 9 is all but dead Are there any takes on how we got to this point in the modern game??? Is it to do with the way defences set up? Most negative features of the modern game are attributed to Pep, but then he uses a beast as a No.9 who scored for fun? The defensive side of the game is way better now and defending against a traditional centre forward is pretty easy because you can just man mark the main goal threat out of the game. It just isn't as easy to breakdown a modern well drilled defence so the better teams have developed a more sophisticated game to pull teams apart and locate the goal threat in more players than just the main striker. The reason the game is what it is is because in the right hands it works- teams playing a more traditional game are just going to get nullified and picked off. Which is why I think the news that Keifer Moore is going to Sheffield United is something if a relief. We need to move on from that.
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 19, 2024 14:56:39 GMT
Are there any takes on how we got to this point in the modern game??? Is it to do with the way defences set up? Most negative features of the modern game are attributed to Pep, but then he uses a beast as a No.9 who scored for fun? The defensive side of the game is way better now and defending against a traditional centre forward is pretty easy because you can just man mark the main goal threat out of the game. It just isn't as easy to breakdown a modern well drilled defence so the better teams have developed a more sophisticated game to pull teams apart and locate the goal threat in more players than just the main striker. The reason the game is what it is is because in the right hands it works- teams playing a more traditional game are just going to get nullified and picked off. Which is why I think the news that Keifer Moore is going to Sheffield United is something if a relief. We need to move on from that. Ipswich scored more goals than anyone last season, playing pretty much in a traditional way, of which Moore was an integral part of Feb onwards.
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 19, 2024 14:57:52 GMT
i think with no movement on the transfer front we have our targets just waiting for maybe the premier league club give us the go ahead,its a waighting game,,but its frustrating for the fans
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 19, 2024 16:17:54 GMT
i think with no movement on the transfer front we have our targets just waiting for maybe the premier league club give us the go ahead,its a waighting game,,but its frustrating for the fans My feelings too. We have talked since January about being light in forwards yet do not seem to be actively pursuing one. My conclusion is that we have two or three targets who will probably not be cheap but we feel that they are interested in coming and their club would be willing to sell/loan but only when they have made their own signings. I'd rather wait for the right ones than make do but as you say it is frustrating to come on here every evening to find that nothing is happening. I fully expect us to start the season with what we have and signings to arrive late in August. I won't stop checking every day though!
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 19, 2024 16:25:54 GMT
Waiting until the end of the transfer window to bring a first choice striker in with Campbell and Wesley gone is something I don’t want to happen and don’t think will happen. How many games will we have played by August 31? A good start and the momentum it would give is crucial. Let’s set up as strong as we can and then bring in a couple of loanees by the end of the window perhaps.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 19, 2024 16:27:22 GMT
After watching the Euros I'm wondering whether teams even need a striker? England got to a final without one (even though he was standing somewhere on the pitch) Lakaku and Ronaldo (played as a striker) should have stayed at home, and I think Spain might have been even better without Morata tbh. All the strikers seemed to have more of a negative influence on their teams, and their teams depended on them too much. (same with Hojlund and Lewandowski who were also very poor) Shearer and Liniker were on about this on their podcast the other day. The traditional number 9 is all but dead It’s a horrible development and modern coaches are to blame. They’ve taken the game down a blind alley.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 19, 2024 16:29:17 GMT
Waiting until the end of the transfer window to bring a first choice striker in with Campbell and Wesley gone is something I don’t want to happen and don’t think will happen. How many games will we have played by August 31? A good start and the momentum it would give is crucial. Let’s set up as strong as we can and then bring in a couple of loanees by the end of the window perhaps. I'm quite happy going into the season with Mmaee and Tezgel getting some minutes. I know he's marmite but I think Mmaee might have a decent start to the season I do think Ennis is pony and needs replacing
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 19, 2024 16:30:30 GMT
Love how people talk like we aren't actively trying to sign a striker.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 19, 2024 16:36:58 GMT
Love how people talk like we aren't actively trying to sign a striker. I wasn't personally, just saying I don't think it's the end of the world with what we've got right now.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jul 19, 2024 16:38:31 GMT
Waiting until the end of the transfer window to bring a first choice striker in with Campbell and Wesley gone is something I don’t want to happen and don’t think will happen. How many games will we have played by August 31? A good start and the momentum it would give is crucial. Let’s set up as strong as we can and then bring in a couple of loanees by the end of the window perhaps. I'm quite happy going into the season with Mmaee and Tezgel getting some minutes. I know he's marmite but I think Mmaee might have a decent start to the season I do think Ennis is pony and needs replacing Pretty doubtful concerning Mmaee, as he is still recovering from the injury that kept him out of the last 5 games from last season. Doubt he'll make the team for at least the first month or so.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 19, 2024 16:39:51 GMT
The defensive side of the game is way better now and defending against a traditional centre forward is pretty easy because you can just man mark the main goal threat out of the game. It just isn't as easy to breakdown a modern well drilled defence so the better teams have developed a more sophisticated game to pull teams apart and locate the goal threat in more players than just the main striker. The reason the game is what it is is because in the right hands it works- teams playing a more traditional game are just going to get nullified and picked off. Which is why I think the news that Keifer Moore is going to Sheffield United is something if a relief. We need to move on from that. Ipswich scored more goals than anyone last season, playing pretty much in a traditional way, of which Moore was an integral part of Feb onwards. Ipswich arent really a good example - they had goals throughout the team www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/ipswich-town/2023-24/top-scorers.html although to be fair Moores record for half a season was pretty good.
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Post by questionable on Jul 19, 2024 16:40:31 GMT
We seem to always go into the season with major gaps most seasons
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