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Post by baconburger on Jul 14, 2024 10:48:24 GMT
He isn't. In terms of goal involvements ie goals scored and assisted he's significantly worse than any of the others mentioned at a standard two leagues below where he wasn't even a guaranteed starter never mind regular goal scorer 3 goals no assists in 17. Another league two loan with us looking to move him upto league one in January if he's ripping it up in league two imo. At his age he’s on a much higher trajectory of improvment. Players his age improve rapidly. 6 months is massive for a player his age. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a much better player than he was last season. That’s much less likely for the older players who aren’t still developing physically. I understand what you're saying but I'd still be pretty horrified if he is our starting CF. Sure I could be wrong but I'd rather not have to find out either way. He'd have to have had a much bigger impact on loan for me. Much the same as I'd be concerned if Sol Sidibe was starting league games for us this coming season.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jul 14, 2024 10:53:23 GMT
I asked a MK Dons fan what he thought about Emre Tezgel last month.
He said he didn't really rate him, could probably make a career in League One but would be very surprised if he ends up cutting it in the Championship.
That said, he's still young.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 14, 2024 10:54:37 GMT
At his age he’s on a much higher trajectory of improvment. Players his age improve rapidly. 6 months is massive for a player his age. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a much better player than he was last season. That’s much less likely for the older players who aren’t still developing physically. I understand what you're saying but I'd still be pretty horrified if he is our starting CF. Sure I could be wrong but I'd rather not have to find out either way. He'd have to have had a much bigger impact on loan for me. Much the same as I'd be concerned if Sol Sidibe was starting league games for us this coming season. If he’s good enough he’s old enough. If he keeps scoring in pre season that might suggest he’s ready.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 14, 2024 11:04:38 GMT
I understand what you're saying but I'd still be pretty horrified if he is our starting CF. Sure I could be wrong but I'd rather not have to find out either way. He'd have to have had a much bigger impact on loan for me. Much the same as I'd be concerned if Sol Sidibe was starting league games for us this coming season. If he’s good enough he’s old enough. If he keeps scoring in pre season that might suggest he’s ready. Might do if the opposition is of a better standard. Hope to see more of him live at the Crewe game. I thought the opposition and the stream was a bit dubious vs Chester. Seemed to be shot from a very low position which I thought made it a difficult watch.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 14, 2024 11:06:16 GMT
I understand what you're saying but I'd still be pretty horrified if he is our starting CF. Sure I could be wrong but I'd rather not have to find out either way. He'd have to have had a much bigger impact on loan for me. Much the same as I'd be concerned if Sol Sidibe was starting league games for us this coming season. If he’s good enough he’s old enough. If he keeps scoring in pre season that might suggest he’s ready. I hope expectations are not raised on the back of scoring 2 goals v Chester. Let’s see how he develops.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 14, 2024 11:10:25 GMT
If he’s good enough he’s old enough. If he keeps scoring in pre season that might suggest he’s ready. I hope expectations are not raised on the back of scoring 2 goals v Chester. Let’s see how he develops. If he or Sol become genuine first team players this season then it’s a bonus. By all accounts they both have ability but transferring that to performing consistently at Championship level is a big step. I still think we need to ship out Mmaee or Vidigal or even both if we can get in an upgrade/upgrades. McBurnie (although I’m unconvinced by him) or Moore (again undecided) or a more left field signing might be the key to giving us genuine consistent attacking threat and goals.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 14, 2024 11:10:40 GMT
I asked a MK Dons fan what he thought about Emre Tezgel last month. He said he didn't really rate him, could probably make a career in League One but would be very surprised if he ends up cutting it in the Championship. That said, he's still young. I think it's a bit scary how many people seem willing to bet the house on him. I hope he's as good as they seem to think but I'd rather he proved it at a lower level first.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 14, 2024 11:13:08 GMT
I hope expectations are not raised on the back of scoring 2 goals v Chester. Let’s see how he develops. If he or Sol become genuine first team players this season then it’s a bonus. By all accounts they both have ability but transferring that to performing consistently at Championship level is a big step. I still think we need to ship out Mmaee or Vidigal or even both if we can get in an upgrade/upgrades. McBurnie (although I’m unconvinced by him) or Moore (again undecided) or a more left field signing might be the key to giving us genuine consistent attacking threat and goals. I don't see how 1 signing could make the case for shipping them out maybe more like 3 or 4 forward/AM's then absolutely no problem with it. PS I fully expect us to make them too. Not sure why you're unconvinced by McBurnie. He's a handful for defenders and scores goals at this level. You don't have to like him as a person.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 14, 2024 11:18:54 GMT
If he or Sol become genuine first team players this season then it’s a bonus. By all accounts they both have ability but transferring that to performing consistently at Championship level is a big step. I still think we need to ship out Mmaee or Vidigal or even both if we can get in an upgrade/upgrades. McBurnie (although I’m unconvinced by him) or Moore (again undecided) or a more left field signing might be the key to giving us genuine consistent attacking threat and goals. I don't see how 1 signing could make the case for shipping them out maybe more like 3 or 4 forward/AM's then absolutely no problem with it. PS I fully expect us to make them too. Not sure why you're unconvinced by McBurnie. He's a handful for defenders and scores goals at this level. You don't have to like him as a person. I’ve never been impressed by McBurnie when I’ve seen him tbh. But yeah he seems a c*%t so maybe that colours my opinion.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 14, 2024 11:25:24 GMT
I don't see how 1 signing could make the case for shipping them out maybe more like 3 or 4 forward/AM's then absolutely no problem with it. PS I fully expect us to make them too. Not sure why you're unconvinced by McBurnie. He's a handful for defenders and scores goals at this level. You don't have to like him as a person. I’ve never been impressed by McBurnie when I’ve seen him tbh. But yeah he seems a c*%t so maybe that colours my opinion. I'd be happy with 1 of him/BTA/Conway on a perm(they're course and distance proven) a high profile loan(maybe with a bit more flair) who can play across the front 3 and a productive AM Cundle or alternative. I think we could start letting one or two go then. I'd want to shift a couple of CM's and one of Gooch or Leris anytime. We have too many CM's and Gooch and Leris are basically the same thing.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 14, 2024 11:29:51 GMT
I asked a MK Dons fan what he thought about Emre Tezgel last month. He said he didn't really rate him, could probably make a career in League One but would be very surprised if he ends up cutting it in the Championship. That said, he's still young. Seems he is in the minority as MK Dons fans in twitter on their forum last season 95% of then loved him and were always fuming when he didn't start a game. There were even comments on our posts the other night when he scored from MK fans saying things like "we're never getting him back now are we 😔"
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jul 14, 2024 11:31:09 GMT
And thats exactly what he is. He was a cheap signing that can play across the front 3 and actually got some returns. He’s ideal for the bench. As back up and on the bench he’s fine. Just one player i really dont like. Vidigal. Surely theres better options for the bench aswell. Haha.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 14, 2024 11:41:01 GMT
I asked a MK Dons fan what he thought about Emre Tezgel last month. He said he didn't really rate him, could probably make a career in League One but would be very surprised if he ends up cutting it in the Championship. That said, he's still young. Seems he is in the minority as MK Dons fans in twitter on their forum last season 95% of then loved him and were always fuming when he didn't start a game. There were even comments on our posts the other night when he scored from MK fans saying things like "we're never getting him back now are we 😔" Hope he does go back there personally if their management is the same, best chance of him getting off to a flyer in an environment he's familiar with. For the first half of the season at least.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 14, 2024 11:43:00 GMT
As back up and on the bench he’s fine. Just one player i really dont like. Vidigal. Surely theres better options for the bench aswell. Haha. For the 2/300 grand he cost? We’ll struggle.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 14, 2024 12:07:54 GMT
I asked a MK Dons fan what he thought about Emre Tezgel last month. He said he didn't really rate him, could probably make a career in League One but would be very surprised if he ends up cutting it in the Championship. That said, he's still young. He’s only 18 and it was very much a development loan. He was also coming back from six months out injured. I’ve looked at his stats from that loan and he played 550 minutes, scored three and assisted three so it’s a goal involvement every 90 minutes or so. I think that’s a reasonable effort all things considered.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 14, 2024 12:12:01 GMT
2 decent signings for Cardiff at Championship level with Willock yesterday and now Chambers
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jul 14, 2024 12:31:55 GMT
I asked a MK Dons fan what he thought about Emre Tezgel last month. He said he didn't really rate him, could probably make a career in League One but would be very surprised if he ends up cutting it in the Championship. That said, he's still young. He’s only 18 and it was very much a development loan. He was also coming back from six months out injured. I’ve looked at his stats from that loan and he played 550 minutes, scored three and assisted three so it’s a goal involvement every 90 minutes or so. I think that’s a reasonable effort all things considered. Yeah, I don't know enough about him - can't say I've seen much of him at all. Really hope he can make the step up and start to get more game time for us, would be great to have a couple of academy prospects make the cut.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jul 14, 2024 12:54:31 GMT
We’ll have a new striker this summer. If it doesn’t happen I’d be really surprised- it’s such a blatantly obvious need.
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 14, 2024 12:55:09 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Jul 14, 2024 12:59:18 GMT
Seen rumours that extend another £10M to £35M. Wonder whether they'll cash in.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 14, 2024 13:03:45 GMT
Man City let players go who want to leave, Ederson will be in Saudi within weeks.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 14, 2024 13:05:54 GMT
2 decent signings for Cardiff at Championship level with Willock yesterday and now Chambers Willock seems to have struggled recently with QPR though.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 14, 2024 13:08:07 GMT
2 decent signings for Cardiff at Championship level with Willock yesterday and now Chambers Willock seems to have struggled recently with QPR though. Yes he was on the bench a lot last season I think
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Post by lordb on Jul 14, 2024 13:50:13 GMT
We’ll have a new striker this summer. If it doesn’t happen I’d be really surprised- it’s such a blatantly obvious need. My concern is due to the paucity of available strikers for our budget we will end up buying someone no good Going to be very difficult
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Post by nonameface on Jul 14, 2024 14:01:46 GMT
I asked a MK Dons fan what he thought about Emre Tezgel last month. He said he didn't really rate him, could probably make a career in League One but would be very surprised if he ends up cutting it in the Championship. That said, he's still young. He’s only 18 and it was very much a development loan. He was also coming back from six months out injured. I’ve looked at his stats from that loan and he played 550 minutes, scored three and assisted three so it’s a goal involvement every 90 minutes or so. I think that’s a reasonable effort all things considered. He also played more time playing as a CAM than a forward. He just needs minutes and to fill out, his touch is class, way more goal threat than Ennis.
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Post by mr on Jul 14, 2024 14:03:08 GMT
Seen rumours that extend another £10M to £35M. Wonder whether they'll cash in. Even £35M seems too low. Only 30. Easily another 5 years at the top.
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Post by george2again on Jul 14, 2024 14:14:07 GMT
A huge number of players go on to have a much better second season than their first in this league and as a fan base we have a history of writing players off too quickly. We’ve seen glimpses of greatness from both Mmaee and Vidigal, give them another season to show us what they’ve got and if they’ve still not improved then move them on. If we sell them to championship rivals they’ll probably both go and get promoted somehow and be worth £10m+ Glimpses of greatness is being very, very generous. Delusional more like.
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Post by george2again on Jul 14, 2024 14:19:15 GMT
I have a feeling vidigal will come good this season. Give the guy a chance. You have to be a really decent player to be a forward in the Championship without some level of pace. Both Vidigal and Mmaee are pretty slow. Twin tortoises you might say. No due diligence done before signing in my opinion.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 14, 2024 14:33:18 GMT
We’ll have a new striker this summer. If it doesn’t happen I’d be really surprised- it’s such a blatantly obvious need. My concern is due to the paucity of available strikers for our budget we will end up buying someone no good Going to be very difficult We simply don't know what our budget is. We've got to spread it a lot less thinly than we did last Summer. I think you're reading too much into us not being in for Parrot. There's no saying we fancied him at all.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 14, 2024 15:35:06 GMT
My concern is due to the paucity of available strikers for our budget we will end up buying someone no good Going to be very difficult We simply don't know what our budget is. We've got to spread it a lot less thinly than we did last Summer. I think you're reading too much into us not being in for Parrot. There's no saying we fancied him at all. He wasn’t going cheep…..
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