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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 10, 2024 16:47:46 GMT
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Post by redandy on Jul 10, 2024 16:59:04 GMT
Just Sean on breakfast that England beet Wales in the over 75 world Cup 7 1 at St George's Park knowing Stoke we would have scouts at the gameđđđđ I'm not the greatest at spelling, but sean and beet? Tell me you're from Essex and all is forgiven
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 10, 2024 17:55:26 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 19:51:30 GMT
Who said that? And why would you take anything that anyone posts on here as gospel? Fish and TinkerT who both have decent records on what is going on. I would hope Fish knows nothing and if he did wouldnât put it on here.
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Post by nott1 on Jul 10, 2024 20:08:31 GMT
You don't become a billionaire by not maximising your assets. I doubt whether they own it anyway. Does King Charles list Buckingham Palace on Airbnb when he's hanging out in Sandringham? Nice little earner that. Makes more money allowing the paying public to wander around there as tourists.
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jul 10, 2024 22:09:41 GMT
Fish and TinkerT who both have decent records on what is going on. I would hope Fish knows nothing and if he did wouldnât put it on here. Hardly blown the lid on the Epstein list has he. He said, a long the lines of, hopeful for two in next weekend. Which TinkerT said the week after. I think SS has ever right to Trust Fish as he has said nothing on here to be seen as leaking info....and I include his Maee comments in that.
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Post by lordb on Jul 10, 2024 22:14:41 GMT
I would hope Fish knows nothing and if he did wouldnât put it on here. Hardly blown the lid on the Epstein list has he. He said, a long the lines of, hopeful for two in next weekend. Which TinkerT said the week after. I think SS has ever right to Trust Fish as he has said nothing on here to be seen as leaking info....and I include his Maee comments in that. No names not even positions Fish got it spot on
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 22:24:06 GMT
I would hope Fish knows nothing and if he did wouldnât put it on here. Hardly blown the lid on the Epstein list has he. He said, a long the lines of, hopeful for two in next weekend. Which TinkerT said the week after. I think SS has ever right to Trust Fish as he has said nothing on here to be seen as leaking info....and I include his Maee comments in that. Iâve not said he has. I think heâs playing on it all tbh and knows very little about the transfers if you want my honest opinion. And that pleases me because itâs how it should be. The manager shouldnât be telling his Stoke fan cousin anything about who we want to sign.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jul 10, 2024 23:00:05 GMT
What will really your mind is that the cousin thing is just a cover and that fish is schuey đ
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 23:07:34 GMT
What will really your mind is that the cousin thing is just a cover and that fish is schuey đ I think both are clueless so not really đ¤Łđđ
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jul 11, 2024 5:57:11 GMT
Hardly blown the lid on the Epstein list has he. He said, a long the lines of, hopeful for two in next weekend. Which TinkerT said the week after. I think SS has ever right to Trust Fish as he has said nothing on here to be seen as leaking info....and I include his Maee comments in that. Iâve not said he has. I think heâs playing on it all tbh and knows very little about the transfers if you want my honest opinion. And that pleases me because itâs how it should be. The manager shouldnât be telling his Stoke fan cousin anything about who we want to sign. Interesting. What makes you say this? Is it a hunch or something backed up with evidence. Also, I thought you said you liked the appointment of shuey when he was first appointed. Why the 360
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2024 6:52:28 GMT
Iâve not said he has. I think heâs playing on it all tbh and knows very little about the transfers if you want my honest opinion. And that pleases me because itâs how it should be. The manager shouldnât be telling his Stoke fan cousin anything about who we want to sign. Interesting. What makes you say this? Is it a hunch or something backed up with evidence. Also, I thought you said you liked the appointment of shuey when he was first appointed. Why the 360 Just a hunch. Because transfer wise nothing of what he has said has been close. Which is good. I did. He did the one thing I didnât want him to do within the first 6 weeks of him being here and itâs a long road back for me to think heâll be any good after that.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 11, 2024 7:15:30 GMT
Interesting. What makes you say this? Is it a hunch or something backed up with evidence. Also, I thought you said you liked the appointment of shuey when he was first appointed. Why the 360 Just a hunch. Because transfer wise nothing of what he has said has been close. Which is good. I did. He did the one thing I didnât want him to do within the first 6 weeks of him being here and itâs a long road back for me to think heâll be any good after that. He ignored your letter about how he should setup the team?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2024 7:21:50 GMT
Just a hunch. Because transfer wise nothing of what he has said has been close. Which is good. I did. He did the one thing I didnât want him to do within the first 6 weeks of him being here and itâs a long road back for me to think heâll be any good after that. He ignored your letter about how he should setup the team? No, he spoke about no fear and his philosophy and changed that totally unnecessarily. For me that is pretty unforgivable. Hopefully he realised and the last 3 games werenât a flash in the pan and they are more of idea of whatâs to come. But we shall see.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 11, 2024 7:43:42 GMT
He ignored your letter about how he should setup the team? No, he spoke about no fear and his philosophy and changed that totally unnecessarily. For me that is pretty unforgivable. Hopefully he realised and the last 3 games werenât a flash in the pan and they are more of idea of whatâs to come. But we shall see. Unnecessarily? really? Would of been relegated had we carried on trying to be expansive in the run of form we were in
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jul 11, 2024 7:43:45 GMT
Interesting. What makes you say this? Is it a hunch or something backed up with evidence. Also, I thought you said you liked the appointment of shuey when he was first appointed. Why the 360 Just a hunch. Because transfer wise nothing of what he has said has been close. Which is good. I did. He did the one thing I didnât want him to do within the first 6 weeks of him being here and itâs a long road back for me to think heâll be any good after that. OK. Care to elaborate? TP headbutted JB. Cast out Tuncay. Stuck Woodgate at RB. Surely one thing doesn't define a manager?
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Post by baconburger on Jul 11, 2024 7:55:57 GMT
No, he spoke about no fear and his philosophy and changed that totally unnecessarily. For me that is pretty unforgivable. Hopefully he realised and the last 3 games werenât a flash in the pan and they are more of idea of whatâs to come. But we shall see. Unnecessarily? really? Would of been relegated had we carried on trying to be expansive in the run of form we were in  You might think it but you donât know it. I too was very disappointed in the change in style but there again Iâve no idea whether he chose it or not. Apparently the players wanted to play a more safety first approach. I cut him some slack on it because I could tell he hated it.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 11, 2024 8:03:20 GMT
Unnecessarily? really? Would of been relegated had we carried on trying to be expansive in the run of form we were in You might think it but you donât know it. I too was very disappointed in the change in style but there again Iâve no idea whether he chose it or not. Apparently the players wanted to play a more safety first approach. I cut him some slack on it because I could tell he hated it. He did what was necessary, It's not that our players can't play his style. They were just so devoid of confidence we had to just grind out some results to get a glimmer of confidence back. And once we did we started playing how he wants us too
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 11, 2024 8:04:02 GMT
Unnecessarily? really? Would of been relegated had we carried on trying to be expansive in the run of form we were in  You might think it but you donât know it. I too was very disappointed in the change in style but there again Iâve no idea whether he chose it or not. Apparently the players wanted to play a more safety first approach. I cut him some slack on it because I could tell he hated it. This. And if other posters canât see that theyâre even bigger bellends than I thought before. Which is a very high bar.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2024 8:09:05 GMT
No, he spoke about no fear and his philosophy and changed that totally unnecessarily. For me that is pretty unforgivable. Hopefully he realised and the last 3 games werenât a flash in the pan and they are more of idea of whatâs to come. But we shall see. Unnecessarily? really? Would of been relegated had we carried on trying to be expansive in the run of form we were in  No we wouldnât.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 11, 2024 8:25:56 GMT
Unnecessarily? really? Would of been relegated had we carried on trying to be expansive in the run of form we were in No we wouldnât. Bayern i think the credibility of your managerial. judgment is taking a bit of bashing over in Germany. đ your starting to look like sunak in the days before the election resigned to the most damaging of nights ahead .đ
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 11, 2024 8:38:32 GMT
Unnecessarily? really? Would of been relegated had we carried on trying to be expansive in the run of form we were in  You might think it but you donât know it. I too was very disappointed in the change in style but there again Iâve no idea whether he chose it or not. Apparently the players wanted to play a more safety first approach. I cut him some slack on it because I could tell he hated it. At the outset Schumacher tweaked the cautious approach adopted by Gallagher and did well. He then introduced the attackimg experiment with the fullbacks and it went horribly wrong. As you say the players intervened, Schumacher went more cautious and we ground out the results needed to give us a chance if survival. Having done that he adopted a more attacking style without the dodgy fullbacks tactic and it worked in large part I suspect because he'd has more time to work with the players and get his ideas across. If he'd have ploughed on with the fullback experiment we would have gone down. For me he did the right thing.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 11, 2024 9:12:13 GMT
He ignored your letter about how he should setup the team? No, he spoke about no fear and his philosophy and changed that totally unnecessarily. For me that is pretty unforgivable. Hopefully he realised and the last 3 games werenât a flash in the pan and they are more of idea of whatâs to come. But we shall see. He did say he wanted to play with no fear, and he also said at the end of the season that he had hated having to abandon his ideals in favour of the more pragmatic approach The thing is that you can only play with no fear if you have confidence in the system. Schumacher had no time to instill that confidence and so on the request of the players adopted a system in which they believed. I am interested to know why you think he should have stuck to his guns and what you think the outcome would have been if he had? He proved that he can be flexible which is a strength. He also talked when he came here of how he involved players in discussion of tactics and that after-match analysis on a Monday was player led. It's no good asking players to do this and then totally disregard what they say because it doesn't fit your agenda.
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Post by acstokie on Jul 11, 2024 9:26:17 GMT
He ignored your letter about how he should setup the team? No, he spoke about no fear and his philosophy and changed that totally unnecessarily. For me that is pretty unforgivable. Hopefully he realised and the last 3 games werenât a flash in the pan and they are more of idea of whatâs to come. But we shall see. We just have to accept Bayern is a glass half empty kind of guy, who would much prefer to concentrate on a mistake a guy made in the first 6 weeks of his job rather than look at the bigger picture and see that the last 12 games of the season brought a points return that was good enough for the play offs.
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Post by retrostoke on Jul 11, 2024 9:32:31 GMT
No, he spoke about no fear and his philosophy and changed that totally unnecessarily. For me that is pretty unforgivable. Hopefully he realised and the last 3 games werenât a flash in the pan and they are more of idea of whatâs to come. But we shall see. We just have to accept Bayern is a glass half empty kind of guy, who would much prefer to concentrate on a mistake a guy made in the first 6 weeks of his job rather than look at the bigger picture and see that the last 12 games of the season brought a points return that was good enough for the play offs. If only Bayern would start every post with ⌠âIn my opinionâ I might actually read them
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Post by liathroid on Jul 11, 2024 9:51:53 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Jul 11, 2024 9:54:41 GMT
You might think it but you donât know it. I too was very disappointed in the change in style but there again Iâve no idea whether he chose it or not. Apparently the players wanted to play a more safety first approach. I cut him some slack on it because I could tell he hated it. At the outset Schumacher tweaked the cautious approach adopted by Gallagher and did well. He then introduced the attackimg experiment with the fullbacks and it went horribly wrong. As you say the players intervened, Schumacher went more cautious and we ground out the results needed to give us a chance if survival. Having done that he adopted a more attacking style without the dodgy fullbacks tactic and it worked in large part I suspect because he'd has more time to work with the players and get his ideas across. If he'd have ploughed on with the fullback experiment we would have gone down. For me he did the right thing. Confirmation bias because you thought it was the right thing so you try to turn your opinion that had he continued with the more attacking style we would have gone down into a fact, it isn't and you couldn't possibly prove otherwise those results are unknowable.
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 11, 2024 9:58:53 GMT
For years we've bemoaned Stoke managers for being too stubborn and now we have one that listened to his players and in turn got some very good results, kept us up and in the end was playing much better football and scoring goals.
Yet it's still not good enough for some on here.
Simply can't win with some people lol.
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Post by haway on Jul 11, 2024 10:01:55 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Jul 11, 2024 10:03:10 GMT
No, he spoke about no fear and his philosophy and changed that totally unnecessarily. For me that is pretty unforgivable. Hopefully he realised and the last 3 games werenât a flash in the pan and they are more of idea of whatâs to come. But we shall see. He did say he wanted to play with no fear, and he also said at the end of the season that he had hated having to abandon his ideals in favour of the more pragmatic approach
The thing is that you can only play with no fear if you have confidence in the system. Schumacher had no time to instill that confidence and so on the request of the players adopted a system in which they believed. I am interested to know why you think he should have stuck to his guns and what you think the outcome would have been if he had? He proved that he can be flexible which is a strength. He also talked when he came here of how he involved players in discussion of tactics and that after-match analysis on a Monday was player led. It's no good asking players to do this and then totally disregard what they say because it doesn't fit your agenda. He hated it and it showed. That's why I never lost faith in him, it was garbage football. What would have happened if he'd stuck to his principals is unknowable. It would be interesting to learn which players wanted to play risk adverse football. I hope we're in the process of fucking them off. No confidence in their own ability and no balls. We'll do fuck all with that mentality unless avoiding relegation is an achievement. They must have been well comfortable with AN's tactics that saw them lose to Plymouth and Sheff Wed in short order.
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