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Apr 2, 2024 10:34:01 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 2, 2024 10:34:01 GMT
Northampton weren't in the top division in the 70s Think you might be thinking Carlisle Went from 3rd to division 1 in consecutive season. Were top of the old first division for a while then went down two divisions again. Yeah that’s correct and why I question marked it Quite a dramatic 1970s though thesefootballtimes.co/2017/09/03/northampton-town-and-the-swinging-sixties/I had an old sticker album I picked up somewhere and had Carlisle in it, first division. Some interesting looking characters- in fact the whole album looked like bass players from awful 70s bands
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Post by shakermaker on Apr 2, 2024 10:39:20 GMT
I can only gawp in sheer admiration, and a heavy load of jealousy and embarrassment on our part. Every season we've been back in this division we have finished bottom half. Ipswich have been out of the Championship for the majority of that time and now in their first season back (after finishing below Schumacher's Plymouth last season) are absolutely blitzing this league. Fair play to them. They are everything we wish we could be, with a top class manager and setup. They were in the doldrums as a club for a very long time. They’ve got it right recently but it follows a long, slow period of decline for them that saw them drift from the Prem to League One and then struggle to get out of it. There are a lot of parallels with us there, except they sank deeper than we have (yet) done. For much of that period we would have been seen as an example of a well-run club and their fans would have been justifiably jealous of us. Eventually we’ll get it right again. We should look at Ipswich as an example of what’s possible with the right set-up in place and not as the embodiment of some unattainable dream. One parallel is that they and us both suffered under the management of that genius Paul Lambert. The only difference is they have recovered, and we haven't! I note roylandstokie has just said this, but setup wise Ipswich have got it right with the holy trinity of bright young and intelligent manager, a DoF with experience of bringing through young players, and a good Head of Recruitment. Whether we have the first of those in Schumacher is open to debate. I am not sure. But we really need to nail the DoF and HoR roles this summer. I like Walters and maybe he has a role to play at the club next season, but not as a DoF - we need someone experienced and with pedigree.
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Ipswich
Apr 2, 2024 10:56:10 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 2, 2024 10:56:10 GMT
They were in the doldrums as a club for a very long time. They’ve got it right recently but it follows a long, slow period of decline for them that saw them drift from the Prem to League One and then struggle to get out of it. There are a lot of parallels with us there, except they sank deeper than we have (yet) done. For much of that period we would have been seen as an example of a well-run club and their fans would have been justifiably jealous of us. Eventually we’ll get it right again. We should look at Ipswich as an example of what’s possible with the right set-up in place and not as the embodiment of some unattainable dream. One parallel is that they and us both suffered under the management of that genius Paul Lambert. The only difference is they have recovered, and we haven't! I note roylandstokie has just said this, but setup wise Ipswich have got it right with the holy trinity of bright young and intelligent manager, a DoF with experience of bringing through young players, and a good Head of Recruitment. Whether we have the first of those in Schumacher is open to debate. I am not sure. But we really need to nail the DoF and HoR roles this summer. I like Walters and maybe he has a role to play at the club next season, but not as a DoF - we need someone experienced and with pedigree. That’s football. A few years ago, they would have been saying exactly the same things about us when they were in the doldrums.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 2, 2024 10:59:19 GMT
One parallel is that they and us both suffered under the management of that genius Paul Lambert. The only difference is they have recovered, and we haven't! I note roylandstokie has just said this, but setup wise Ipswich have got it right with the holy trinity of bright young and intelligent manager, a DoF with experience of bringing through young players, and a good Head of Recruitment. Whether we have the first of those in Schumacher is open to debate. I am not sure. But we really need to nail the DoF and HoR roles this summer. I like Walters and maybe he has a role to play at the club next season, but not as a DoF - we need someone experienced and with pedigree. That’s football. A few years ago, they would have been saying exactly the same things about us when they were in the doldrums. Absolutely Where have they been for the last decade ? You can pick any team doing well and say- that's how a club should be run. We were the benchmark for promoted teams not so long ago. Swansea another one and even Wigan
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Apr 2, 2024 11:01:35 GMT
Forest 76-78 were a bit special.
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 2, 2024 13:01:45 GMT
I hope The Tractor boys go up automatic. Loved that last minute goal yesterday.
OS.
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Post by senojbor on Apr 2, 2024 13:17:41 GMT
I hope The Tractor boys go up automatic. Loved that last minute goal yesterday. OS. Plus it's a long away day.
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Ipswich
Apr 3, 2024 14:16:19 GMT
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Apr 3, 2024 14:16:19 GMT
Yeovil I always remember going from conference to championship (early 2000's maybe). Ofcourse never made it to premier league but was some achievement. They have gone full circle since then and find themselves in the national league south.
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Post by marwood on Apr 3, 2024 16:25:00 GMT
Remember quite a few at work tipping Wycombe to go 4-3-2-1 back in the day, think it was their special time under Martin O'Neill Back to Back promotions since 92 (when football was invented*):-
National League to League 1:-
Wycombe Wanderers: 1992-1994 Doncaster Rovers: 2002-2004 Carlisle: 2004-2006 Exeter: 2007-2009 Stevenage: 2009-2011 Crawley: 2010-2012 Bristol Rovers: 2014-2016
League 2 to Championship:-
Bury: 1995-1997 Brighton: 2000-2002 Rotherham: 1999-2001 Peterborough: 2007-2009 Rotherham: 2012-2014 Burton Albion: 2014-2016
League 1 to Premier League:-
Watford: 1997-1999 Southampton: 2010-2012 Norwich: 2009-2011
Our early season goal-gifting friends (30% of them this season probably?) Rotherham have the special distinction of being the only club to achieve two separate back to back promotions. They won promotion from League Two to the Championship in 1999-2001 and 2012-2014.
*was it bollocks
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Ipswich
Apr 3, 2024 16:29:56 GMT
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Post by Gods on Apr 3, 2024 16:29:56 GMT
First match I ever saw...
Stoke (0) 0 Ipswich Town (0) 0 August 15th 1970.
Who wouldn't be hooked after that?!
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Post by jestershat on Apr 3, 2024 18:20:41 GMT
50+ years ago Ipswich had a bloke in charge name"Alf" (to his mates). Whatever happened to him?
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Ipswich
Apr 3, 2024 19:07:32 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 3, 2024 19:07:32 GMT
I had an old sticker album I picked up somewhere and had Carlisle in it, first division. Some interesting looking characters- in fact the whole album looked like bass players from awful 70s bands Was it around 1967 we went to their place and put 6 past them? Also it only had 3 sides open because they used the ground for Cricket.
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Ipswich
Apr 3, 2024 19:09:58 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 3, 2024 19:09:58 GMT
I had an old sticker album I picked up somewhere and had Carlisle in it, first division. Some interesting looking characters- in fact the whole album looked like bass players from awful 70s bands Was it around 1967 we went to their place and put 6 past them? Also it only had 3 sides open because they used the ground for Cricket. I wasn't born Never been to their ground actually but always fancied it That Eddie Stobart away kit a few years was something else
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Ipswich
Apr 3, 2024 20:29:09 GMT
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Post by fca47 on Apr 3, 2024 20:29:09 GMT
I had an old sticker album I picked up somewhere and had Carlisle in it, first division. Some interesting looking characters- in fact the whole album looked like bass players from awful 70s bands Was it around 1967 we went to their place and put 6 past them? Also it only had 3 sides open because they used the ground for Cricket. Think we won 2- 0 away in their season in league 1. Alan Hudson masterclass. Furthest north game I've been to
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Ipswich
Apr 4, 2024 0:01:15 GMT
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Post by musik on Apr 4, 2024 0:01:15 GMT
A great east anglia derby coming up on Sat at 13:30 Norwich-Ipswich. I will see it at the bet365 website.
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Post by greenman on Apr 5, 2024 19:17:38 GMT
I had an old sticker album I picked up somewhere and had Carlisle in it, first division. Some interesting looking characters- in fact the whole album looked like bass players from awful 70s bands Was it around 1967 we went to their place and put 6 past them? Also it only had 3 sides open because they used the ground for Cricket. No, we lost 1-0
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Post by lordb on Apr 5, 2024 20:35:33 GMT
Was it around 1967 we went to their place and put 6 past them? Also it only had 3 sides open because they used the ground for Cricket. No, we lost 1-0 Northampton had 3 sides, might be them? We wouldn't have scored 6 away though Definitely not scored 6 away since WW2 and possibly bever
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Post by Gob Bluth on Apr 5, 2024 22:09:08 GMT
Ipswich finished just outside the Champions League spots in their first season after gaining promotion finishing 5th which was a big deal under manager George Burley.
Other notable rises through the league has to be Quitteral at Cheltenham taking them up 3 leagues in I think 5 years.
And despite their success we know that really they’re a pair of utter nuggets.
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Post by senojbor on Apr 5, 2024 22:59:40 GMT
Beat Ipswich 9-1 at home in the 60's Tim Coleman scored 6 I think?
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Apr 5, 2024 23:28:10 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Apr 5, 2024 23:28:10 GMT
It's not really that surprising Ipswich are doing so well this season, they were scoring goals for fun at the back end of last season. Teams that score lots of goals will always do well. I think they were 20-1 at the start of the season to win the league, I wish I had a bet on it now. It was difficult to look past Leicester winning the league this season with the players they had but Ipswich always looked like a team that would be around the playoffs and promotion places
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Post by castleblack on Apr 6, 2024 0:53:00 GMT
i remember back in the seventies,away to ipswich,,,maybe a night match? and after a few fisticuffs a couple of the hartshill brigade not coming home on the coach,,,,,,,,
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Post by boult on Apr 6, 2024 1:32:24 GMT
Whether it's the first season back in the Championship, or been there for years, when there's an opportunity like they have - they must take it. We only really had one opportunity (after a near miss the season before) and grabbed it. We have not been in the hunt otherwise this century when in the second tier.
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Ipswich
Apr 6, 2024 5:34:47 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 6, 2024 5:34:47 GMT
Was it around 1967 we went to their place and put 6 past them? Also it only had 3 sides open because they used the ground for Cricket. Think we won 2- 0 away in their season in league 1. Alan Hudson masterclass. Furthest north game I've been to Hudson got 10/10 in the Sunday People. At home we won 5-2 Conroy scored a hat trick
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Ipswich
Apr 6, 2024 7:45:05 GMT
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Apr 6, 2024 7:45:05 GMT
Remember quite a few at work tipping Wycombe to go 4-3-2-1 back in the day, think it was their special time under Martin O'Neill Back to Back promotions since 92 (when football was invented*):- National League to League 1:- Wycombe Wanderers: 1992-1994 Doncaster Rovers: 2002-2004 Carlisle: 2004-2006 Exeter: 2007-2009 Stevenage: 2009-2011 Crawley: 2010-2012 Bristol Rovers: 2014-2016 League 2 to Championship:- Bury: 1995-1997 Brighton: 2000-2002 Rotherham: 1999-2001 Peterborough: 2007-2009 Rotherham: 2012-2014 Burton Albion: 2014-2016 League 1 to Premier League:- Watford: 1997-1999 Southampton: 2010-2012 Norwich: 2009-2011 Our early season goal-gifting friends (30% of them this season probably?) Rotherham have the special distinction of being the only club to achieve two separate back to back promotions. They won promotion from League Two to the Championship in 1999-2001 and 2012-2014. *was it bollocks Macclesfield Town - National League ( as was ) to League one ( Division Two as it was called then ) 1997-1999
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