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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 21, 2024 19:32:26 GMT
Loads of people on hear say they aren't going to renew. Is there anyone who actually isn't??? Sadly I'm one of them. It's a combination of the consistently dreadful and downright boring football over the last few years and the dreadful results that have gone with it. And the fact that work are now requiring me to work a few extra Saturdays a year compared with what I did before. The calculation no longer adds up, I'm not getting enough enjoyment from the matches to be worth the money and I'm not getting enough matches per pound because of work. And with declining crowds and the prospect of the Premier League looking laughingly distant I'm no longer too concerned about losing my seat and where I might end up having to sit if we got promoted and I had no reserved seat to renew. I can't see that being an issue for at least the next 3-5 years, probably longer. I'll still go to the games when I can and take advantage of ticket promotions and things but the bottom line is I'm missing too many games, and the ones I get to I'm not getting enough enjoyment out of. I've had a season ticket since 1996 so its going to be weird.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 21, 2024 19:47:30 GMT
Loads of people on hear say they aren't going to renew. Is there anyone who actually isn't??? Think easter weekends results will decide for quite a few people.
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Post by chad on Mar 21, 2024 19:51:58 GMT
17 seasons without an increase in price. Well done Stoke And we still aren't the cheapest just shows how much we were ripped off 17years ago FFS. Seventeen Years with no price increase SEVENTEEN YEARS. And still some people have a moan Care to name any other club in the country that hasn’t increased ST since 2007 I’ll wait ……
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 21, 2024 22:50:18 GMT
I’ve missed more than half the home games for various reasons this season but I’ve renewed again more in blind hope that next season will be our season…
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Mar 21, 2024 23:19:53 GMT
I will renew whatever division we are in as always just prefer it to be the highest division possible..
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Post by spiderpuss on Mar 22, 2024 0:06:06 GMT
Loads of people on hear say they aren't going to renew. Is there anyone who actually isn't??? Think easter weekends results will decide for quite a few people. I think 344 is OTT for third division football. The club have got the announcement somewhat out of kilter. In my mind, they should have waited to see where we are and then announce. You could have then done "improve for the Champs" of "rebound and rebuild thing". Right now it's fuck it off.
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Post by Scouse on Mar 22, 2024 1:02:28 GMT
Think easter weekends results will decide for quite a few people. I think 344 is OTT for third division football. The club have got the announcement somewhat out of kilter. In my mind, they should have waited to see where we are and then announce. You could have then done "improve for the Champs" of "rebound and rebuild thing". Right now it's fuck it off. The problem i presume is accommodating the 2500 ST who use the 12 month payment scheme , presumably it has to be done now to fit in with last years scheme ending ..and for 12 payments to be made for the 24/25 season , with that also needing to finish to account for any 25/26 season scheme ..you could scrap the scheme ..but then what percentage of the 2500 would then renew , or be able to afford to renew if effectively they only got until May to retain their seat 24/5 Season starts a week later than 23/24 I believe , but tickets also went on sale for 23/24 a year ago today ..so dates really probably arnt decided upon by league fortunes ( not least given that the price is subsidised by the family ) Other than atmosphere , I Greater sales and therefore revenue really only helps / impacts the FFP figure , though I think for the 23/24 season we covered the subsidy ( and indeed free travel ) with a specific contribution from bet365 ..FFP is one thing that discourages most clubs from price freezing one of their main revenue streams ..
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Post by spiderpuss on Mar 22, 2024 8:48:32 GMT
I think 344 is OTT for third division football. The club have got the announcement somewhat out of kilter. In my mind, they should have waited to see where we are and then announce. You could have then done "improve for the Champs" of "rebound and rebuild thing". Right now it's fuck it off. The problem i presume is accommodating the 2500 ST who use the 12 month payment scheme , presumably it has to be done now to fit in with last years scheme ending ..and for 12 payments to be made for the 24/25 season , with that also needing to finish to account for any 25/26 season scheme ..you could scrap the scheme ..but then what percentage of the 2500 would then renew , or be able to afford to renew if effectively they only got until May to retain their seat 24/5 Season starts a week later than 23/24 I believe , but tickets also went on sale for 23/24 a year ago today ..so dates really probably arnt decided upon by league fortunes ( not least given that the price is subsidised by the family ) Other than atmosphere , I Greater sales and therefore revenue really only helps / impacts the FFP figure , though I think for the 23/24 season we covered the subsidy ( and indeed free travel ) with a specific contribution from bet365 ..FFP is one thing that discourages most clubs from price freezing one of their main revenue streams .. Probably bang on the money Scouse. It's all to do with other arrangements, which makes the Norwich result and the resulting International break all the more awkward. Perhaps have a 9 month repayment scheme, but yeah they have been hamstrung by their own scheme.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 22, 2024 8:56:03 GMT
One thing I think the club does need to address is the price of matchday tickets for non-season ticket holders.
They've done great things for fans with price freezes and free travel but not everyone can afford or has the free time to commit to a season ticket (students, weekend workers etc) and I just think £31-£41 for a Cat A game and £26-£36 for a Cat B game is too much.....
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Post by bigvern on Mar 22, 2024 9:55:49 GMT
I’ve missed more than half the home games for various reasons this season but I’ve renewed again more in blind hope that next season will be our season… Good lad. It's impossible to be a Stoke fan without blind hope.
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 22, 2024 10:01:11 GMT
We might get more games next season.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 22, 2024 10:04:53 GMT
17 seasons without an increase in price. Well done Stoke And we still aren't the cheapest just shows how much we were ripped off 17years ago Come on chief, I know things are shit but this is one thing the club has been superb with.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 22, 2024 10:07:51 GMT
I’ve missed more than half the home games for various reasons this season but I’ve renewed again more in blind hope that next season will be our season… Same. Keep renewing thinking this is the year we turn the corner..... And I've convinced me sen yet again that this is indeed the year 😆 🤣
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Post by skip on Mar 22, 2024 10:27:40 GMT
One thing I think the club does need to address is the price of matchday tickets for non-season ticket holders. They've done great things for fans with price freezes and free travel but not everyone can afford or has the free time to commit to a season ticket (students, weekend workers etc) and I just think £31-£41 for a Cat A game and £26-£36 for a Cat B game is too much..... Agrees strongly. Living down here with commitments and routines and whatnot, home games are a bit hit and miss for me, but when they do hit, me and two teenagers, one soon to turn eighteen, and the cost has rocketed.
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Post by spiderpuss on Mar 22, 2024 13:19:15 GMT
One thing I think the club does need to address is the price of matchday tickets for non-season ticket holders. They've done great things for fans with price freezes and free travel but not everyone can afford or has the free time to commit to a season ticket (students, weekend workers etc) and I just think £31-£41 for a Cat A game and £26-£36 for a Cat B game is too much..... That may well have to change when Barrow come visiting.
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Post by pushon on Mar 22, 2024 14:42:46 GMT
After many last minute capitulations(i.e renewing again). I solemnly swear that I won't make the same mistake again. I have quite happily missed at least half of this seasons Home games and gave up on Awaydays a few seasons ago. I honestly can't remember the last Stoke home goal I saw and that's a sad reflection on both goals scored and my attendance record. To the delight of many😉 I shall still be making occasional comments on this Board👁 Always assuming that I have Bayern's sanction that is.😠🤓
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Post by sportsman on Mar 22, 2024 14:56:30 GMT
Block 10 is going be the new family stand
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Post by senojbor on Mar 22, 2024 15:58:26 GMT
I got mine this morning online. I don't get a season ticket normally but when I do we have a good season Cup final season was the last The club need me
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Post by banksy1art on Mar 22, 2024 17:10:25 GMT
I got mine this morning online. I don't get a season ticket normally but when I do we have a good season Cup final season was the last The club need me hope you bring the good fortune. Atmosphere should be buzzing if we have a good season with the new standing south stand
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 22, 2024 21:30:02 GMT
Doesn't mention early bird?
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Mar 22, 2024 22:04:58 GMT
I haven't seen us win since Sunderland in October and I've been half the home games and three away games. And I have a 200 mile round trip for the home games.
So, obviously, every logical part of my brain has led me to the decision to renew for a tenth straight season.
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Post by potters11 on Mar 22, 2024 22:59:35 GMT
One thing I think the club does need to address is the price of matchday tickets for non-season ticket holders. They've done great things for fans with price freezes and free travel but not everyone can afford or has the free time to commit to a season ticket (students, weekend workers etc) and I just think £31-£41 for a Cat A game and £26-£36 for a Cat B game is too much..... Routine is the key word for me here. If we see a drop off in season ticket holders, they’ll already be out of the routine of going come September. With the current matchday prices they’ll be little to no chance of them finding the routine again until we see sustained and serious genuine progression on the pitch (promotion to the Premier League or getting very close) and with how much of the past decade has gone that might not happen for quite sometime. So in short Stoke look after the none season ticket holders as you do the season ticket holders. Be creative with ticket bundles and prices and see each seat empty on a matchday as an opportunity. Don’t follow the trend of other clubs and charge £28 for a ticket vs Coventry on a cold February Tuesday night. It’s pointless! Whilst I’m here remove the £1 booking fee too, put it inside the ticket price and reward the away fans by not charging it! We have seen some positive steps forward off the pitch recently but still so much to do!
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Post by spiderpuss on Mar 22, 2024 22:59:46 GMT
Doesn't mention early bird? That was binned in favour of a general buy now period. It has been reined in though as last year it finished in July/August. I'd imagine a proportion will wait to discover what league we are in.
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Post by potters11 on Mar 22, 2024 23:12:03 GMT
Doesn't mention early bird? That was binned in favour of a general buy now period. It has been reined in though as last year it finished in July/August. I'd imagine a proportion will wait to discover what league we are in. The one price window runs from now until the start of the season on August 10th. If you want to renew your existing seat it will be held for you until May 17th.
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Post by spiderpuss on Mar 22, 2024 23:22:00 GMT
That was binned in favour of a general buy now period. It has been reined in though as last year it finished in July/August. I'd imagine a proportion will wait to discover what league we are in. The one price window runs from now until the start of the season on August 10th. If you want to renew your existing seat it will be held for you until May 17th. Check, correct.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Mar 22, 2024 23:24:51 GMT
I am tempted to do away games only next season..
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Post by doctortheopolis on Mar 23, 2024 8:13:43 GMT
I am tempted to do away games only next season.. I've heard a couple of other people say the same and certainly see the appeal as it's a better craic away from home. I guess the only issue with that is if we are relegated, it'll be difficult to get a ticket for some of the away matches if you're not a season ticket holder due to smaller allocations. Places like Cambridge, Exeter, Bristol Rovers, Stevenage, Burton and Northampton, even Crewe (god forbid) won't make it to general sale, especially if we are actually doing well.
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Post by Block 26 on Mar 23, 2024 9:43:17 GMT
I am tempted to do away games only next season.. I did this years ago but the problem was on a match day when Stoke were at home I missed it. It’s a strange feeling on a Saturday morning wondering what you’re going to do with yourself for the day whilst you could/should be at the match.
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Post by Scouse on Mar 23, 2024 10:53:13 GMT
One thing I think the club does need to address is the price of matchday tickets for non-season ticket holders. They've done great things for fans with price freezes and free travel but not everyone can afford or has the free time to commit to a season ticket (students, weekend workers etc) and I just think £31-£41 for a Cat A game and £26-£36 for a Cat B game is too much..... Routine is the key word for me here. If we see a drop off in season ticket holders, they’ll already be out of the routine of going come September. With the current matchday prices they’ll be little to no chance of them finding the routine again until we see sustained and serious genuine progression on the pitch (promotion to the Premier League or getting very close) and with how much of the past decade has gone that might not happen for quite sometime. So in short Stoke look after the none season ticket holders as you do the season ticket holders. Be creative with ticket bundles and prices and see each seat empty on a matchday as an opportunity. Don’t follow the trend of other clubs and charge £28 for a ticket vs Coventry on a cold February Tuesday night. It’s pointless! Whilst I’m here remove the £1 booking fee too, put it inside the ticket price and reward the away fans by not charging it! We have seen some positive steps forward off the pitch recently but still so much to do! My understanding clubs charge booking fees , because unlike ST & match tickets , booking fees are VAT exempt , allowing clubs to retain more money within the business ..if they rolled the two together they’d lose that financial advantage Likewise away clubs use to receive a percentage of the home gate .. but that was changed in the 80s meaning home clubs retain the gate money …EFL rules I believe allow away clubs to charge home clubs a 5% commission for selling away tickets ..though there’s some belief within football that this might be waived on reciprocal grounds , instead clubs go down the booking fee route instead to help towards covering their ticket office costs be it hardware or software or staff Similarly these days several clubs look too reciprocal ticket pricing agreements , to reduce costs to their away support ..when appropriate Stoke are open to this .. Leeds are well known to be open to reciprocal pricing to prevent their fans from being fleeced at away games ..though there negotiations are more of a blackmail approach , as fans of clubs that don’t come to agreement with them tend to pay a heavy price for tickets at Elland Rd ST renewed yesterday
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Post by potters11 on Mar 23, 2024 12:15:35 GMT
Routine is the key word for me here. If we see a drop off in season ticket holders, they’ll already be out of the routine of going come September. With the current matchday prices they’ll be little to no chance of them finding the routine again until we see sustained and serious genuine progression on the pitch (promotion to the Premier League or getting very close) and with how much of the past decade has gone that might not happen for quite sometime. So in short Stoke look after the none season ticket holders as you do the season ticket holders. Be creative with ticket bundles and prices and see each seat empty on a matchday as an opportunity. Don’t follow the trend of other clubs and charge £28 for a ticket vs Coventry on a cold February Tuesday night. It’s pointless! Whilst I’m here remove the £1 booking fee too, put it inside the ticket price and reward the away fans by not charging it! We have seen some positive steps forward off the pitch recently but still so much to do! My understanding clubs charge booking fees , because unlike ST & match tickets , booking fees are VAT exempt , allowing clubs to retain more money within the business ..if they rolled the two together they’d lose that financial advantage Likewise away clubs use to receive a percentage of the home gate .. but that was changed in the 80s meaning home clubs retain the gate money …EFL rules I believe allow away clubs to charge home clubs a 5% commission for selling away tickets ..though there’s some belief within football that this might be waived on reciprocal grounds , instead clubs go down the booking fee route instead to help towards covering their ticket office costs be it hardware or software or staff Similarly these days several clubs look too reciprocal ticket pricing agreements , to reduce costs to their away support ..when appropriate Stoke are open to this .. Leeds are well known to be open to reciprocal pricing to prevent their fans from being fleeced at away games ..though there negotiations are more of a blackmail approach , as fans of clubs that don’t come to agreement with them tend to pay a heavy price for tickets at Elland Rd ST renewed yesterday I appreciate the explanation Scouse but I think it’s a fee that could be very easily avoided. Surely the cost of going to a match nowadays is enough!?
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