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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 24, 2024 13:44:35 GMT
And right on cue up pops the terrorist loving anti Brittish apologist in chief. Surprised it took so long. Maybe one or two extra cans of tramp Juice knocked him out. There are posters on this board from every political persuasion who may well consistently post from a particular perspective but manage to do it in a provocative but reasoned way and retain the respect of others on the board who do not share that perspective. Huddysleftfoot is one of them. You on the other hand are a racist little shit who hasn't posted anything even remotely insightful or intelligent and just churn out stuff specifically designed to stir up racial hatred. Which is precisely why you started this thread. And you know full well what you are doing even if you haven't got the balls to admit it. There are at least a dozen posters who met me and my family is Singapore when stoke played there, and would laugh at you calling me a racist little shit. More than happy to introduce you to them.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 24, 2024 13:46:09 GMT
Based on " that's what I think he will do" it's called an opinion.. How did you reach that opinion? Any way the wind blows... Opinions are nit based on facts, what makes you think he will keep her out, has he intimated that anywhere. Or is it just your opinion...
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Post by lordb on Feb 24, 2024 13:48:17 GMT
How did you reach that opinion? Any way the wind blows... Opinions are nit based on facts, what makes you think he will keep her out, has he intimated that anywhere. Or is it just your opinion... I haven't given a moments thought as to what Starmer will do re Begum when he's PM As such am open to be persuaded one way or the other Go on, persuade me, with an argument based on... something/anything
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 24, 2024 13:51:05 GMT
Any way the wind blows... Opinions are nit based on facts, what makes you think he will keep her out, has he intimated that anywhere. Or is it just your opinion... I haven't given a moments thought as to what Starmer will do re Begum when he's PM As such am open to be persuaded one way or the other Go on, persuade me, with an argument based on... something/anything How on earth can I persuade you to agree with my opinion, it is not factually based, it's just an opinion.. Oh do you know what.. I've changed my mind. He will keep her out... There... Is that better..
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Post by lordb on Feb 24, 2024 13:52:46 GMT
I haven't given a moments thought as to what Starmer will do re Begum when he's PM As such am open to be persuaded one way or the other Go on, persuade me, with an argument based on... something/anything How on earth can I persuade you to agree with my opinion, it is not factually based, it's just an opinion.. Oh do you know what.. I've changed my mind. He will keep her out... There... Is that better.. No not at all Just seemed like you were certain Starmer would be bringing Begum back Seemed a bit random What has Starmer said about it?
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 24, 2024 13:55:06 GMT
How on earth can I persuade you to agree with my opinion, it is not factually based, it's just an opinion.. Oh do you know what.. I've changed my mind. He will keep her out... There... Is that better.. No not at all Just seemed like you were certain Starmer would be bringing Begum back Seemed a bit random What has Starmer said about it? FFS...What part of " opinions are not facts" are you struggling to comprehend...
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 24, 2024 13:57:22 GMT
I asked the question to someone this morning re her legal aid and apparently her lawyers represented Ian Brady and are representing her for free awhich they've done before in high profile cases.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 24, 2024 14:06:07 GMT
Cant post links from phone so google Shamima Begum and kier starmer and you will see before he was Labour leader he said the refusal to allow her back in was wrong.
Any way the wind blows...
Will take just a few Corbynites to sway him.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 24, 2024 14:10:23 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Feb 24, 2024 14:35:44 GMT
Mate you really are angry. There's no reason to be as angry as you are. She's still where you want her to be... People often vote on single issues rather than the 'bigger picture'. If Starmer brings her back and she's walking the streets, do you expect people to vote for labour in the following election? Your view on this subject is very simplistic. Starmer actually has an incredible opportunity to demonstrate what a strong leader he is. Over to you Keir.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 24, 2024 14:56:08 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 24, 2024 15:24:11 GMT
The Bangladeshi authorities said she isn’t eligible for a passport there. At least that was what was being said when the story first broke. Can you send a link to where Starmer said that please? Read it again. " I dare say when he becomes PM " NOT THAT HE HAS SAID IT.. ITS MY PREDICTION.. So you think Starmer, if PM, will massively overreach his powers, destroy the rule of law and overrule a Judge’s decision!? I think Stoke have a better chance of promotion this season than that happening.
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 24, 2024 15:26:11 GMT
The Bangladeshi authorities said she isn’t eligible for a passport there. At least that was what was being said when the story first broke. Can you send a link to where Starmer said that please? The journalist who has interviewed her several times said, on Thursday, that she had a Bangladeshi passport, but added that she had said they would kill her immediately should she ever go there. I thought she had to take up nationality there before she turned 21 else it lapsed.
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Post by wolfinsheepsclothing on Feb 24, 2024 15:28:16 GMT
The journalist who has interviewed her several times said, on Thursday, that she had a Bangladeshi passport, but added that she had said they would kill her immediately should she ever go there. I thought she had to take up nationality there before she turned 21 else it lapsed. Not what he said 🤷🤔
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 24, 2024 16:11:29 GMT
I thought she had to take up nationality there before she turned 21 else it lapsed. Not what he said 🤷🤔 She has never set foot in Bangladesh. Perhaps she does have a passport. But I thought the entire controversy surrounding the English legal case was that if she has her British nationality revoked, she will be stateless. Paragraph 303 of the judgment from the other day confirms it: “Now that Ms Begum has turned 21, it is accepted that, because of the way Bangladesh's nationality laws operate, she is no longer a citizen of that country”.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 24, 2024 16:24:41 GMT
She has never set foot in Bangladesh. Perhaps she does have a passport. But I thought the entire controversy surrounding the English legal case was that if she has her British nationality revoked, she will be stateless. Paragraph 303 of the judgment from the other day confirms it: “Now that Ms Begum has turned 21, it is accepted that, because of the way Bangladesh's nationality laws operate, she is no longer a citizen of that country”. She held dual citizenship because her parents are Bangladeshi, and she was born in UK, however Bangladeshi law states that when you reach 21 it is automatically withdrawn.
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Post by wannabee on Feb 24, 2024 16:30:47 GMT
I thought she had to take up nationality there before she turned 21 else it lapsed. Not what he said 🤷🤔 Not sure which Journalist you are quoting but he got it wrong Shamima Begum, a British teenager who ran away from home to live in ISIL’s so-called “caliphate”, will not be allowed to enter Bangladesh, the South Asian country’s state minister for foreign affairs has told Al Jazeera.
“She is a British citizen,” Shahriar Alam said on Wednesday after the UK announced plans to strip Begum of her citizenship, sparking a debate over the ramifications of leaving a 19-year-old mother stateless in a war zone.
“There is no question of her being a Bangladeshi citizen as she never visited the country,” Alam said. www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/2/21/shamima-begum-is-british-has-no-claim-to-bangladesh-minister
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Post by wannabee on Feb 24, 2024 16:44:48 GMT
I have no particular desire to see Begum roam freely on the Streets of UK but there are many remedies as explained in the attached article Begum has become High Profile in MSN because of her persona and apparent lack of contrition or empathy to advance Culture Wars Meanwhile About 400 individuals ‘of national security concern’, including ISIS fighters, have already returned to the UK from Syria and Iraq, although only 40 have been successfully prosecuted, according to UK Home Office figures. www.ibanet.org/article/518E56A1-801D-4118-A47F-385D7EB9FCE4
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Post by metalhead on Feb 25, 2024 1:26:07 GMT
Read it again. " I dare say when he becomes PM " NOT THAT HE HAS SAID IT.. ITS MY PREDICTION.. So you think Starmer, if PM, will massively overreach his powers, destroy the rule of law and overrule a Judge’s decision!? I think Stoke have a better chance of promotion this season than that happening. I hope so.
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Post by sticky on Feb 25, 2024 2:01:49 GMT
A lot of waffle on this chat tbf, if your prepared have your kids/grandkids play amongst her then fair enough. Not for me
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 25, 2024 7:39:50 GMT
A lot of waffle on this chat tbf, if your prepared have your kids/grandkids play amongst her then fair enough. Not for me I wouldn’t let my kids play with a lot of people in prison I imagine. Should they all lose their nationality? There are kids at my son’s school I won’t let him play with at their house. Should those children and their families lose their nationality? Your test for whether someone should lose their nationality is not fit for purpose. The courts are far better placed to decide and they have said she loses her British passport. Not because the Judge wouldn’t let their kids play with her.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Feb 25, 2024 8:36:24 GMT
There are posters on this board from every political persuasion who may well consistently post from a particular perspective but manage to do it in a provocative but reasoned way and retain the respect of others on the board who do not share that perspective. Huddysleftfoot is one of them. You on the other hand are a racist little shit who hasn't posted anything even remotely insightful or intelligent and just churn out stuff specifically designed to stir up racial hatred. Which is precisely why you started this thread. And you know full well what you are doing even if you haven't got the balls to admit it. There are at least a dozen posters who met me and my family is Singapore when stoke played there, and would laugh at you calling me a racist little shit. More than happy to introduce you to them. Just because you have friends and family of a different race it doesn't mean you aren't racist. Some of you posts demonstrate racist attitudes, some of your posts are out and out racist and some of your posts (like the OP) are designed specifically to stir up racial hatred. And you know it but won't admit it. If you don't get that some of the posts are racist you are either a liar or an idiot.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 25, 2024 8:39:35 GMT
There are at least a dozen posters who met me and my family is Singapore when stoke played there, and would laugh at you calling me a racist little shit. More than happy to introduce you to them. Just because you have friends and family of a different race it doesn't mean you aren't racist. Some of you posts demonstrate racist attitudes, some of your posts are out and out racist and some of your posts (like the OP) are designed specifically to stir up racial hatred. And you know it but won't admit it. If you don't get that some of the posts are racist you are either a liar or an idiot. or both?
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 25, 2024 9:42:23 GMT
There are at least a dozen posters who met me and my family is Singapore when stoke played there, and would laugh at you calling me a racist little shit. More than happy to introduce you to them. Just because you have friends and family of a different race it doesn't mean you aren't racist. Some of you posts demonstrate racist attitudes, some of your posts are out and out racist and some of your posts (like the OP) are designed specifically to stir up racial hatred. And you know it but won't admit it. If you don't get that some of the posts are racist you are either a liar or an idiot. Or. . I'm a proud British Citizen, who served in The Military, with a foreign wife and child, and numerous friends of a different ethnicity, but most of all, delighted that the people we pay and trust to protect us have decided this terrorist who made her own choice is no longer welcome here. Out of interest where do u stand on this. Do you want her back..
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Post by musik on Feb 25, 2024 9:46:29 GMT
Q: Are people discussing this in England or is it just on this board?
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Post by knype on Feb 25, 2024 10:06:28 GMT
Q: Are people discussing this in England or is it just on this board? The majority of people I have discussed this with don't want the terrorist bitch back
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 25, 2024 10:12:47 GMT
Q: Are people discussing this in England or is it just on this board? The majority of people I have discussed this with don't want the terrorist bitch back That's everything to do with the company you keep.
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Post by knype on Feb 25, 2024 10:13:55 GMT
The majority of people I have discussed this with don't want the terrorist bitch back That's everything to do with the company you keep. Yep normal people and not terrorist sympathisers
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Post by salopstick on Feb 25, 2024 10:20:19 GMT
The majority of people I have discussed this with don't want the terrorist bitch back That's everything to do with the company you keep. Yep normal rational people. It’s not extreme racists who believe she made her bed How many terrorists acts and other crimes have been committed by people known to the authorities? Loads. I’d be more concerned of the sympathisers who time and time again let scum like this off the hook
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Post by knype on Feb 25, 2024 10:23:14 GMT
That's everything to do with the company you keep. Yep normal rational people. It’s not extreme racists who believe she made her bed How many terrorists acts and other crimes have been committed by people known to the authorities? Loads. I’d be more concerned of the sympathisers who time and time again let scum like this off the hook Spot on
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