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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 11, 2024 8:38:32 GMT
What part of yesterday showed that “he clearly isn’t ready”? It’s a lazy tag given to every single player who comes through our academy system I thought he looked excellent at times. His movement in and around the box is very good. Considering the standard of team he was up against I was impressed. If his header had snuck in there would be valuations of 10-15 million flying around on here now. I can't remember if it was Lowe's debut, but when he scored the winner nobody said this though.  |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 11, 2024 8:38:58 GMT
I thought he did well yesterday, he’s a really clever young player. Unsure as to if he stays or goes out on loan again, I guess it all depends on who comes in and who leaves between now and the end of the month. I think he will take a giant leap forward if he can get a couple of goals. He doesn’t quite have the presence yet to dominate a centre half. A streetwise older CH will deal with him. I personally think he will get more from staying with our squad, coming off the bench or playing cup games than going out on loan again. Yeah, I’d like to see him play again on Tuesday and see how he gets on. It would be nice to see him get a goal or two for his confidence. |
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Post by Marchin’ Already on Aug 11, 2024 8:44:15 GMT
His movement was brilliant at times, such a clever player for his age.
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Post by lordb on Aug 11, 2024 8:46:59 GMT
His movement was brilliant at times, such a clever player for his age. Yes he's a smart player and an excellent finisher Once we have the new striker, Mmaee, Ennis and Gallagher then a loan out seems clear Unless Ennis and/or Mmaee leave this window |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 11, 2024 8:56:51 GMT
His movement was brilliant at times, such a clever player for his age. Yes he's a smart player and an excellent finisher Once we have the new striker, Mmaee, Ennis and Gallagher then a loan out seems clear Unless Ennis and/or Mmaee leave this window Without wishing to go overboard, he’s got a similar style to Sherringham where he’s got clever movement and a good eye for a pass. |
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 11, 2024 9:04:28 GMT
His movement was brilliant at times, such a clever player for his age. Yes he's a smart player and an excellent finisher Once we have the new striker, Mmaee, Ennis and Gallagher then a loan out seems clear Unless Ennis and/or Mmaee leave this window This is more the point rather than whether he's ready or not. He's potentially going to be 5th choice and that's no good. If we do bring in someone like cannon, then loans for lowe and tezgel make sense. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 11, 2024 9:06:45 GMT
Yes he's a smart player and an excellent finisher Once we have the new striker, Mmaee, Ennis and Gallagher then a loan out seems clear Unless Ennis and/or Mmaee leave this window This is more the point rather than whether he's ready or not. He's potentially going to be 5th choice and that's no good. If we do bring in someone like cannon, then loans for lowe and tezgel make sense. I’d look at it as bad planning tbh. Tezgel is ready to be playing a part at this level and I think we need to show willing to that or he will leave. To be in a position where he’s 4th or 5th choice is imo poor from the club. |
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Post by Ron on Aug 11, 2024 9:10:15 GMT
Thought his all round game was excellent 1st half- he struggled when leading line on his own 2nd when cov on top. Would love to have seeen if he could’ve finished the chance million took off his toes 1st half.
Needs to keep playing though.
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 11, 2024 9:13:41 GMT
This is more the point rather than whether he's ready or not. He's potentially going to be 5th choice and that's no good. If we do bring in someone like cannon, then loans for lowe and tezgel make sense. I’d look at it as bad planning tbh. Tezgel is ready to be playing a part at this level and I think we need to show willing to that or he will leave. To be in a position where he’s 4th or 5th choice is imo poor from the club. I agree but it is what it is. We have too many options that just don't score and unfortunately would be ahead of Emre in the pecking order. Perhaps Mmaee and/or Ennis are off though, which again I'd be happy with as long as we get someone like cannon. Cannon Gallagher Tezgel Ennis |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 11, 2024 9:18:51 GMT
I’d look at it as bad planning tbh. Tezgel is ready to be playing a part at this level and I think we need to show willing to that or he will leave. To be in a position where he’s 4th or 5th choice is imo poor from the club. I agree but it is what it is. We have too many options that just don't score and unfortunately would be ahead of Emre in the pecking order. Perhaps Mmaee and/or Ennis are off though, which again I'd be happy with as long as we get someone like cannon. Cannon Gallagher Tezgel Ennis I keep forgetting about Gallagher. We really shouldn’t have signed him as it really fucks this up. |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 11, 2024 9:20:03 GMT
I agree but it is what it is. We have too many options that just don't score and unfortunately would be ahead of Emre in the pecking order. Perhaps Mmaee and/or Ennis are off though, which again I'd be happy with as long as we get someone like cannon. Cannon Gallagher Tezgel Ennis I keep forgetting about Gallagher. We really shouldn’t have signed him as it really fucks this up. I wouldn’t worry. It seems like he’s destined to be on the treatment table all season anyway. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 11, 2024 9:20:55 GMT
His movement was brilliant at times, such a clever player for his age. Yes he's a smart player and an excellent finisher Once we have the new striker, Mmaee, Ennis and Gallagher then a loan out seems clear Unless Ennis and/or Mmaee leave this window He was the worst finisher in the warm up though, I made sure to watch him closely 😅 Warm up and in game are different, I know. |
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Post by lordb on Aug 11, 2024 9:22:23 GMT
Yes he's a smart player and an excellent finisher Once we have the new striker, Mmaee, Ennis and Gallagher then a loan out seems clear Unless Ennis and/or Mmaee leave this window He was the worst finisher in the warm up though, I made sure to watch him closely 😅 Warm up and in game are different, I know. Was he? Tezgel is the best finisher at the club by a mile |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 11, 2024 9:25:02 GMT
He was the worst finisher in the warm up though, I made sure to watch him closely 😅 Warm up and in game are different, I know. Was he? Tezgel is the best finisher at the club by a mile Yes, a lot of scuffed and powder puff efforts. I'll put it down to nerves because Mmaee was mostly slotting them away like he was on holiday without a care in the world. |
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 11, 2024 9:26:24 GMT
I agree but it is what it is. We have too many options that just don't score and unfortunately would be ahead of Emre in the pecking order. Perhaps Mmaee and/or Ennis are off though, which again I'd be happy with as long as we get someone like cannon. Cannon Gallagher Tezgel Ennis I keep forgetting about Gallagher. We really shouldn’t have signed him as it really fucks this up. If we don't sell Ennis or Mmaee then yeah, signing Gallagher was baffling. I don't mind signing him as such, he does offer something different than the rest, but we didn't need him plus another and have a pool of 6 strikers vying for one spot. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 11, 2024 9:28:02 GMT
I keep forgetting about Gallagher. We really shouldn’t have signed him as it really fucks this up. If we don't sell Ennis or Mmaee then yeah, signing Gallagher was baffling. I don't mind signing him as such, he does offer something different than the rest, but we didn't need him plus another and have a pool of 6 strikers vying for one spot. Reading the reviews of Blackburn fans I’m not sure he does offer anything different? They seem to be adamant he’s not a targetman and is a more of a runner. |
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Post by lordb on Aug 11, 2024 9:28:09 GMT
Was he? Tezgel is the best finisher at the club by a mile Yes, a lot of scuffed and powder puff efforts. I'll put it down to nerves because Mmaee was mostly slotting them away like he was on holiday without a care in the world. Mmaee is a good finisher too but simply doesn't get into goal scoring positions enough, he wants to play outside the box, he's a second striker |
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Post by lordb on Aug 11, 2024 9:30:15 GMT
If we don't sell Ennis or Mmaee then yeah, signing Gallagher was baffling. I don't mind signing him as such, he does offer something different than the rest, but we didn't need him plus another and have a pool of 6 strikers vying for one spot. Reading the reviews of Blackburn fans I’m not sure he does offer any hing different? They seem to be adamant he’s not a targetman and is a more of a runner. He definitely offers the option of pumping it long and high if you want to play that way, or need that as an option That only really works if someone is playing off him a pair as such can only really see Gallagher as an option off the bench |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 11, 2024 9:31:29 GMT
Reading the reviews of Blackburn fans I’m not sure he does offer any hing different? They seem to be adamant he’s not a targetman and is a more of a runner. He definitely offers the option of pumping it long and high if you want to play that way, or need that as an option That only really works if someone is playing off him a pair as such can only really see Gallagher as an option off the bench They are adamant he can’t do it and he’s a Fanny. |
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 11, 2024 9:31:56 GMT
If we don't sell Ennis or Mmaee then yeah, signing Gallagher was baffling. I don't mind signing him as such, he does offer something different than the rest, but we didn't need him plus another and have a pool of 6 strikers vying for one spot. Reading the reviews of Blackburn fans I’m not sure he does offer anything different? They seem to be adamant he’s not a targetman and is a more of a runner. I've only really seen him against us and he seemed more of a target man to me. Even if he runs and presses, only really Ennis does that. I just hope we can move Ennis on somehow so tezgel can stay and get 20-25 appearances this year. |
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Post by leicspotter on Aug 11, 2024 9:32:00 GMT
He was the worst finisher in the warm up though, I made sure to watch him closely 😅 Warm up and in game are different, I know. Was he? Tezgel is the best finisher at the club by a mileWe used to day that about Tye. I was impressed by Tezgel yesterday, he obviously flagged after an hour, not surprising really. Ennis is a different type of option, a scrapper, not so elegant, but effective in his role for the goal. I don't get this "only 5th choice" stuff people are spouting. Every club needs options and SS proved yesterday he is willing to give Emre a chance and I expect that will continue through the season UTMP |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 11, 2024 9:37:47 GMT
Putting his age and inexperience to one side……..It’s very difficult, tiring and must be soul destroying to play as a lone up front forward, most of the time simply chasing down the ball and space.
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Post by lordb on Aug 11, 2024 9:38:35 GMT
Putting his age and inexperience to one side……..It’s very difficult, tiring and must be soul destroying to play as a lone up front forward, most of the time simply chasing down the ball and space. Two up front please |
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 11, 2024 9:42:52 GMT
Was he? Tezgel is the best finisher at the club by a mileWe used to day that about Tye. I was impressed by Tezgel yesterday, he obviously flagged after an hour, not surprising really. Ennis is a different type of option, a scrapper, not so elegant, but effective in his role for the goal. I don't get this "only 5th choice" stuff people are spouting. Every club needs options and SS proved yesterday he is willing to give Emre a chance and I expect that will continue through the season UTMP We play with 1 striker though and have 5 with probably soon to be 6 on the books. There's having options and then having way too many options. It would be no good for 2 of them to get sub appearances here or there over the season. 4 strikers for 1 spot would be ideal. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 11, 2024 10:04:17 GMT
I thought he looked excellent at times. His movement in and around the box is very good. Considering the standard of team he was up against I was impressed. If his header had snuck in there would be valuations of 10-15 million flying around on here now. I can't remember if it was Lowe's debut, but when he scored the winner nobody said this though. I don’t think Lowe is anywhere near Tezgel level. Tezgel is highly rated and regarded. Lowe I think will find his level at League 1 or 2. |
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Post by kickfortouch on Aug 11, 2024 10:12:06 GMT
I was pleasantly surprised with Tezgel yesterday as a first time watching him live for more than a couple of minutes and he does look like he would be fine as a rotation option for us this year.
I am doubtful he will be afforded enough playing time to continue his development with the current make up of the squad and our lack of goals.
It looks like we’re trying to bring in a first choice number nine (hopefully Cannon/Stansfield), have already signed Gallagher who you would imagine would be the first option off the bench and also have Ennis and Mmaee. So unless we offload at least one of Ennis/Mmaee then Tezgel’s minutes will be really limited.
From watching his interview yesterday he’s clearly a big stoke fan so I think the best thing for his development would be a new contract and a league 1 loan.
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 11, 2024 10:15:33 GMT
That first half display should be enough for him to stay at the club and become an essential part of the matchday squad. And the lad will get better with more minutes under his belt.
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 11, 2024 10:34:00 GMT
That first half display should be enough for him to stay at the club and become an essential part of the matchday squad. And the lad will get better with more minutes under his belt. OS. Im happy with that, but when we add cannon/stansfield to the mix, it's just bloated. Even if tezgel is pushed up the pecking order, it means having expensive players sitting doing nothing. Something needs to budge before tezgel can be kept here and get the minutes he would need. If we could shift Mmaee for 2-3m, then sorted, but I've no clue who would take him at that price. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 11, 2024 12:04:24 GMT
I was pleasantly surprised with Tezgel yesterday as a first time watching him live for more than a couple of minutes and he does look like he would be fine as a rotation option for us this year. I am doubtful he will be afforded enough playing time to continue his development with the current make up of the squad and our lack of goals. It looks like we’re trying to bring in a first choice number nine (hopefully Cannon/Stansfield), have already signed Gallagher who you would imagine would be the first option off the bench and also have Ennis and Mmaee. So unless we offload at least one of Ennis/Mmaee then Tezgel’s minutes will be really limited. From watching his interview yesterday he’s clearly a big stoke fan so I think the best thing for his development would be a new contract and a league 1 loan. He was picked ahead of Ennis and Mmaee yesterday. Tezgel is a very intelligent player so linking him with Bae, Million and Kounas (who I have not seen play yet but you would thin will get playing time coming here from Liverpool) sounds very exciting. They could pull defences all over the place with their movement and interplay. We wouldn't even need Cundle then. NB I'm not including players we haven't got yet. |
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Post by kickfortouch on Aug 11, 2024 12:24:59 GMT
He was which I was pleased to see as I think he’s clearly got a higher ceiling than either of those two. I’d love him to play a serious part this season, but realistically given the squad options I can’t see it happening and think he will be at least 2nd choice behind Gallagher but more than likely third behind a new striker and Gallagher. I’d be happy for him to stay, but given he’s already missed a lot of football through injury I just don’t think sitting on our bench for most of the season is the best option for either him or Stoke moving forward.
If he does stay than we need to move on Mmaee/Ennis or possibly both depending on additional incomings as having 5 players fighting for 1 spot is a waste of resources.
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