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Post by jhtstokie on Feb 12, 2024 13:46:39 GMT
Personally I think this is the clubs biggest week to date since relegation.
Shit recruitment, cant score, can’t defend, teams (shit teams may I add) carving us open with one pass through the pitch, totally disgruntled fanbase, embarrassing home form, rumours flying round about things off the pitch, list goes on.
QPR will come here with a bit of fight and belief after looking at our home form in particular, then Cov could be coming into Saturdays game on a great unbeaten run providing they don’t lose in the week, currently lost 2 games since we played them in the reverse in mid November.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 12, 2024 13:57:05 GMT
'Pre-Madonna' has resurfaced on that Twitter thread, so I'm out. Be Borderline if we stay up or not if we lose
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Post by neilethere on Feb 12, 2024 14:05:08 GMT
These are different and desperate times calls for desperate measures, If John Coates brought the whole team into a crisis meeting and said look we know half of you don't want to be here and are only interested in the money you bunch of mercenary w*nkers but hear me out if you can get us to safety you'll all get a non-relegation bonus... then you can foook-off if you want and whoever stays will get a big bonus for finishing in the top half...or even greater play-offs next season. Excellent idea. Think only money would motivate this bunch of charlatans.
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Feb 12, 2024 14:11:46 GMT
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Post by furry on Feb 12, 2024 14:11:46 GMT
'Pre-Madonna' has resurfaced on that Twitter thread, so I'm out. Be Borderline if we stay up or not if we lose Players just need to Get Into The Groove and Express themselves. They can take a Holiday when the season is over. Hopefully there is a Ray Of Light at the end of the tunnel.
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Post by Los Alfareros on Feb 12, 2024 14:16:10 GMT
Just emerged since Saturday, I couldn't stomach anything Stoke related for the past 48 hours....
Fucking massive game on Weds, I have no idea how we can turn the form around, 8 changes last game and still no response from the players. The defending was comical and the 2 new lads don't look any better than what we have unfortunately. I watched the Blackburn stream on Sat and their commentators could not believe how high we defended or how much space there was behind us. Not sure if Shuey can shore up this defence, but that needs addressing now or we will lose this game.
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Post by HarryTheHat on Feb 12, 2024 14:19:09 GMT
I reckon it'll sadly be yet another lacklustre performance and the tension in the crowd will boil over if (when) QPR score first. I really hope I'm wrong but I don't think it's going to end well. Wilmot's response to how big a game Wednesday was worried me. He's probably playing it down, but sometimes you need your senior players to stand up and admit what we need to do. He makes Josh Laurent look like Maximus Decimus Meridius mind. Why are you referring to Wilmot as a senior player? He's one of the youngest in the team - younger than McNally even At least he had the balls to do an interview - something which Laurent always bottles
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 12, 2024 14:19:14 GMT
Be Borderline if we stay up or not if we lose Players just need to Get Into The Groove and Express themselves. They can take a Holiday when the season is over. Hopefully there is a Ray Of Light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully be thanking our lucky stars on Wednesday I can hear the gnashing of the pun police
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Post by caine on Feb 12, 2024 14:44:08 GMT
Beyond a big few weeks, need 7 points this month which is looking very unlikely.....
Beat QPR and we have one foot out of trouble, 6 point gap is huge in the grand scheme of things and would only need another 2-3 wins if the season total is anything to go by. Cant see the bottom 3 getting anymore than 40 points personally.
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Feb 12, 2024 14:49:25 GMT
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Post by matelot1996 on Feb 12, 2024 14:49:25 GMT
Let's not beat around the bush, this is an absolutely huge week for our club. I hope the players realise the extent to which this week could make or break things. Ben Wilmot's meek "it's just another game against QPR" concerned me somewhat, it wasn't exactly a Vince Overson style battle cry to get the juices flowing. As much as I've been critical of the players, Martin, Dublin and even to some extent, SS, we need you all to come together this week to get the results we need. On the pitch on Wednesday, if the players go out full of heart and desire, the fans will back you all the way. Go on Stoke. Huge doesn’t do it Justice. It’s literally pivotal for the future of our Club. I’d go as far to say it could be shit or bust. As mentioned in other threads Questions over whether Coates would still want to be owners are valid. If they do eventually leave off the back of their frustration at failing, we could be massively in the shit.
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Post by vidigoals on Feb 12, 2024 15:14:29 GMT
I've been pretty adamant of late that we're not going down but I've swung to the notion that it does all come down to Wednesday night.
Win it & move 6 points clear, that's enough, no-matter how bad we've been recently. We'll pick up just enough points for a safe but uninspiring finish. Should we lose, I think that could be it. It's not just about the result on the night. If we can't get up for a relegation 6-pointer such as this after 4 straight defeats, at home, then we won't have enough to stay up.
This game will signal for me where we're at - we know we're poor, but are we relegation material? Sheff Weds result at the weekend gives them some hope, a QPR result at our place will give them a lot of hope - it'll sink us.
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Feb 12, 2024 15:18:04 GMT
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Post by mamathestriker on Feb 12, 2024 15:18:04 GMT
Wilmot's response to how big a game Wednesday was worried me. He's probably playing it down, but sometimes you need your senior players to stand up and admit what we need to do. He makes Josh Laurent look like Maximus Decimus Meridius mind. Why are you referring to Wilmot as a senior player? He's one of the youngest in the team - younger than McNally even At least he had the balls to do an interview - something which Laurent always bottles In terms of games played, how long he has been here.
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Post by Glory Hunter on Feb 12, 2024 16:16:34 GMT
I think we are all accepting that the QPR game is massive, more so than the Cov game as they are not a relegation competitor (I still hate them though and would love to win it as well). All the comments highlight that we leave too muck space for (especially) pacey players to exploit behind. So we have sure this up. I would also go with the toughest midfield possible. Which means Burger, Laurent and Pearson. Possibly Thompson as well if we play 5 at the back. Anyone who has fire in their belly should be on the pitch. This game won’t determine how we finish but from a fans point of view, it “could” restore some pride and passion in how we perform. It’s a huge opportunity now on Wednesday- let’s take it!
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Feb 12, 2024 17:07:03 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 12, 2024 17:07:03 GMT
Wilmot's response to how big a game Wednesday was worried me. He's probably playing it down, but sometimes you need your senior players to stand up and admit what we need to do. He makes Josh Laurent look like Maximus Decimus Meridius mind. Why are you referring to Wilmot as a senior player? He's one of the youngest in the team - younger than McNally even At least he had the balls to do an interview - something which Laurent always bottles Because he's been at the club for long enough, and the club hope people like him enough not to get annoyed by anything he says.
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Feb 12, 2024 17:07:18 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 12, 2024 17:07:18 GMT
Let's not beat around the bush, this is an absolutely huge week for our club. I hope the players realise the extent to which this week could make or break things. Ben Wilmot's meek "it's just another game against QPR" concerned me somewhat, it wasn't exactly a Vince Overson style battle cry to get the juices flowing. As much as I've been critical of the players, Martin, Dublin and even to some extent, SS, we need you all to come together this week to get the results we need. On the pitch on Wednesday, if the players go out full of heart and desire, the fans will back you all the way. Go on Stoke. What does Dublin have to do with this now? His job is to identify players. He probably has nothing to do with them after that.
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Feb 12, 2024 17:16:39 GMT
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Post by mamathestriker on Feb 12, 2024 17:16:39 GMT
Let's not beat around the bush, this is an absolutely huge week for our club. I hope the players realise the extent to which this week could make or break things. Ben Wilmot's meek "it's just another game against QPR" concerned me somewhat, it wasn't exactly a Vince Overson style battle cry to get the juices flowing. As much as I've been critical of the players, Martin, Dublin and even to some extent, SS, we need you all to come together this week to get the results we need. On the pitch on Wednesday, if the players go out full of heart and desire, the fans will back you all the way. Go on Stoke. What does Dublin have to do with this now? His job is to identify players. He probably has nothing to do with them after that. The vast majority of the players identified are shit?!
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 12, 2024 18:32:32 GMT
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Post by mcw on Feb 12, 2024 18:39:32 GMT
I've been pretty adamant of late that we're not going down but I've swung to the notion that it does all come down to Wednesday night. Win it & move 6 points clear, that's enough, no-matter how bad we've been recently. We'll pick up just enough points for a safe but uninspiring finish. Should we lose, I think that could be it. It's not just about the result on the night. If we can't get up for a relegation 6-pointer such as this after 4 straight defeats, at home, then we won't have enough to stay up. This game will signal for me where we're at - we know we're poor, but are we relegation material? Sheff Weds result at the weekend gives them some hope, a QPR result at our place will give them a lot of hope - it'll sink us. Makes me sick to the stomach thinking about Wednesday night. Your analysis is spot on, this is the game that defines if we stay up or stay down based on what we can all see in relation to this squad. They are as weak mentally as they are physically, but a win will give them a boost and maybe give them the impetus to push on to secure safety. Lose and it just adds to the mental fragility and it is akin to the pressure being squared each game we play.
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Post by pushon on Feb 12, 2024 18:53:54 GMT
Let's say the God's smile on us and we get positive results from these next two home games, at least 4 points. It doesn't end there,it'll be a monumental task to replicate equivalent results given our half-hearted recent displays. Schumacher really will deserve a bonus if he can actually accomplish this onerous task.
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Feb 12, 2024 19:11:06 GMT
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Post by thepottypotter on Feb 12, 2024 19:11:06 GMT
4 points minimum next 2 games I agree that's the minimum that we need (ideally 6) but I think we'll be very lucky to even get 2. Lucky to get 1 with this circus
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Feb 12, 2024 20:10:27 GMT
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Post by superjw on Feb 12, 2024 20:10:27 GMT
QPR will know exactly what to do, nick an early goal and they will know us fans will turn on the team. That’s all they need and the game is theirs.
Without a doubt we must not let QPR score first (at all really would be ideal!)
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Feb 12, 2024 20:19:29 GMT
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 12, 2024 20:19:29 GMT
Secretly hoping for a 4 v 0 thumping of QPR and subsequent calm for a few days before Coventry.
Dreading a piss poor display and going 1 nil behind after 20 mins…
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Feb 12, 2024 20:30:22 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 12, 2024 20:30:22 GMT
These are different and desperate times calls for desperate measures, If John Coates brought the whole team into a crisis meeting and said look we know half of you don't want to be here and are only interested in the money you bunch of mercenary w*nkers but hear me out if you can get us to safety you'll all get a non-relegation bonus... then you can foook-off if you want and whoever stays will get a big bonus for finishing in the top half...or even greater play-offs next season. You would think so wouldn't you? If you want to earn more money from the game then play well and you'll either get offered a better contract or some bigger club will come in and make a bid for you. Yet the game is littered with arseholes who down tools in order to get shunted out to play bit parts in shit leagues. Of which Stoke seem to have had more than their fair share.
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Post by teanstoke on Feb 12, 2024 20:46:45 GMT
We need to regroup and start again , treat it like first game of the season and away, it’s imperative we don’t concede , so we start defending from the front . If it’s 0 0 so be it then we move on again looking for a 1 0 . Then slowly make progress , yes it’s like TP but it make you safe gives the forwards and midfielders the ethos of team work and man up . We could do with a defensive coach , more like Huth than Shawcross. God save our Team.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 12, 2024 22:04:18 GMT
What does Dublin have to do with this now? His job is to identify players. He probably has nothing to do with them after that. The vast majority of the players identified are shit?! I misread what you said, sorry. I read that those you had listed, rather than we the fans, need to pull together. That’s why I was confused as to what Dublin has to do with it.
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