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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 17:31:20 GMT
Schumacher is adapting the team to play in a way that he has spent 4+ months trying to get Cundle to play. When he left Cundle was a fixture in his team. Cundle isn't the problem. The problem is getting the rest of the team to catch up with where Cundle is at in terms of understanding the game plan. This is spot on the issue, under lapping full backs required much flexibility and understanding by a large portion of the team, seemingly alot aren't getting it..yet.. So it's the rest of the players who Schumacher has picked since Cundle has been here fault that Cundle has been ineffective so far then? Ah orate mate
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Post by lordb on Feb 7, 2024 17:33:19 GMT
Blackburn lose a lot of home games like us should be two nervous sides having seen the later posts (thanks FM) re JDT Saturday should be very nervous indeed first goal even more important than usual however these games tend to favour away sides
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 7, 2024 17:34:19 GMT
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24105026.tomasson-expected-leave-blackburn-ahead-crunch-talks/At the time of writing, he is still Blackburn Rovers' head coach. However, The Lancashire Telegraph understands he is likely to leave his post before Saturday's match against Stoke City. Whilst nothing is official, there is a growing feeling that the 2-1 defeat to Queens Park Rangers may have been his last. Talks between the club and Tomasson will continue over the next 48 hours to reach a resolution over the matter. It remains to be seen whether the Dane will offer to resign for a second time or if the club will be left with a decision to make.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Feb 7, 2024 17:37:15 GMT
Its nearer to chess than it was in the 1980s. If you think teams can just change direction like that you really don't get where football is these days. There are way more ways of setting up teams to play and it takes longer to get teams to play the way a manager wants to play. You can argue Schumacher should build on what the team have been doing and for the first few games he did. He's clearly decided to go for his way of playing and unsurprisingly it isn't coming off. So what does he do? Grind it out with a style of play he doesn't believe in or stick by his principles? Looks to me like he's going to stick by his principles and we will either shoot up the league or get relegated. And if we get relegated it will be because the rest of the team can't get on Cundle's wavelength because Cundle is the one tuned in to the right channel. But again it isn't Cundle that will take us down it's because Schumacher will have made the wrong call in changing the style of play mid season. Which is hard to do. Behave. I’m not having that, I know footballers aren’t always the brightest but please, if you can’t understand a methodology in four weeks you never will. Yes there’s learning time, Yes it’s more complex, yes game-plans have developed but It’s not rocket science, despite what you’re eluding to. It's way harder than you are assuming. Unless of course you have played for or managed a professional football club. In which case I bow to superior knowledge. If not - you are talking through your arse. I'm guessing the latter.
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Post by jokker on Feb 7, 2024 17:40:34 GMT
Tomasson off then. Not sure if that’s a good or bad thing for us really? He masterminded a superb win for them a few weeks ago, undeservedly from our point of week, so in that light, we could breathe a little more easily. However there's obviously superstitutions forces at hand, so...
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Feb 7, 2024 17:41:58 GMT
Schumacher is adapting the team to play in a way that he has spent 4+ months trying to get Cundle to play. When he left Cundle was a fixture in his team. Cundle isn't the problem. The problem is getting the rest of the team to catch up with where Cundle is at in terms of understanding the game plan. This is spot on the issue, under lapping full backs required much flexibility and understanding by a large portion of the team, seemingly alot aren't getting it..yet.. So it's the rest of the players who Schumacher has picked since Cundle has been here fault that Cundle has been ineffective so far then? Ah orate mate It's all about the team. A team is good because they work well as a team. Some people see teams others (and this really is the ) see individual players.
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Post by jokker on Feb 7, 2024 17:44:31 GMT
And so a man who's been here for six weeks has to ppy for other's six years of stupidity...? No but would it be too much for us as fans to expect somebody to come in and hit the ground running? It would be too much for fans to expect somebody to come in and hit the ground running, but we have the right to hope for better things, which some of us do. He'll come good and in a few weeks time no one will be able to understand why they doubted SS.
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Post by Biblical on Feb 7, 2024 17:50:06 GMT
JDT leaving ahead of the game will all but seal Blackburn’s victory. We just can’t help but offer 3 points to clubs in crisis.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 17:55:42 GMT
JDT leaving ahead of the game will all but seal Blackburn’s victory. We just can’t help but offer 3 points to clubs in crisis. I've just had an email from the club about a new charity drive. I've signed up to wash a bus that they'll be using apparently...
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Feb 7, 2024 18:02:27 GMT
Feeling generous towards a manageress club? Start up the Stoke City Charity Bus then.....with Freddie Mercury on the back seat & Pat Roach by the clown
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Post by nott1 on Feb 7, 2024 18:03:19 GMT
I should think there is a growing number who don't give a shit who is next up!
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Post by wonderwall on Feb 7, 2024 18:21:56 GMT
Good to know other clubs are as fucked up as us
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 7, 2024 18:25:26 GMT
I’m not having that, I know footballers aren’t always the brightest but please, if you can’t understand a methodology in four weeks you never will. Yes there’s learning time, Yes it’s more complex, yes game-plans have developed but It’s not rocket science, despite what you’re eluding to. It's way harder than you are assuming. Unless of course you have played for or managed a professional football club. In which case I bow to superior knowledge. If not - you are talking through your arse. I'm guessing the latter. Ok, sure it’s soo complex🤣
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 18:32:41 GMT
It's way harder than you are assuming. Unless of course you have played for or managed a professional football club. In which case I bow to superior knowledge. If not - you are talking through your arse. I'm guessing the latter. Ok, sure it’s soo complex🤣 Its made more complex by the fact that footballers put in about 4-6 hours of work a day and I’d be shocked if they went home and studied 😂
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Post by idle on Feb 7, 2024 19:04:25 GMT
Schumacher is adapting the team to play in a way that he has spent 4+ months trying to get Cundle to play. When he left Cundle was a fixture in his team. Cundle isn't the problem. The problem is getting the rest of the team to catch up with where Cundle is at in terms of understanding the game plan. And do we have time for that? Is that the best use of time? Is dicking around the best thing to be doing at this moment? Or should we simply use a player whose averaging about 1 in 4 for us in the league from midfield already and have Cundle rotate with Bae (who is a much more like for like replacement). Baker has scored two for us already this season. It makes him one of our top scorers 😂. Use him every game between now and the end of the season and he’ll likely score 3-4 more. Is Cundle going to get a 1:4 for Stoke? I haven’t seen anything yet to suggest that he will. That is, apart from running into no man’s land when a pass isn’t on. Baker could score a few (and maybe none), but I think he's detrimental to the way SS want us to play. His work rate is shite, as is his pressing and tackling skills. He's also kinda slow. I think his shooting covered up many of his deficiences that was carried by the rest of the team under MON. But hey, I could be wrong. He could go on a goalscoring spree of a lifetime. Not very likely, but it's possible. Oh, and his average is 1 in 5.5 over his career, see the xG thread. It's typical oatcake writing players off after a few games. You have no clue how many Cundle will score, and neither do I. The only thing we know is that he knows what SS is trying to do. It remains to be seen if he can adapt to playing with our players. He has scored a few and had a few assists, and I think it's just as likely he'll do that for the rest of the season.
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Post by andromeda on Feb 7, 2024 19:29:08 GMT
We could do with JDT holding out until after Saturday. If he does go let’s hope it’s a totally inexperienced caretaker manager who doesn’t have the confidence of the players.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 8, 2024 8:40:26 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 8, 2024 9:22:23 GMT
Oh dear, this has a Stoke charity all over it Saturday 😔
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Feb 8, 2024 9:24:52 GMT
It's way harder than you are assuming. Unless of course you have played for or managed a professional football club. In which case I bow to superior knowledge. If not - you are talking through your arse. I'm guessing the latter. Ok, sure it’s soo complex🤣 If a manager assembles their squad over the summer and gets a good preseason and everything clicks the team might get firing on all cylinders by September/October. Schumacher is changing the playing style midseason with a core squad he hasn't assembled for his way of playing. You and others are assuming it's Cundle not adapting to the team whereas Schumacher has started to adapt to the rest of the team to play the way he's spent half a season getting Cundle to play. And they haven't got it yet. Schumacher could have gone the simple route and build in what Neil left in which case it would have been simple and a matter of any new players adapting to the team. He's chosen the more complex option which is his call.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 8, 2024 10:39:20 GMT
I see Blackburn have picked up the least pts in the Championship over the last 11 games,worst record for goals conceded from goal attempts.
Just when they need a lift,who will be turning up? Stoke City of course.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 8, 2024 10:45:21 GMT
I’m not having that, I know footballers aren’t always the brightest but please, if you can’t understand a methodology in four weeks you never will. Yes there’s learning time, Yes it’s more complex, yes game-plans have developed but It’s not rocket science, despite what you’re eluding to. It's way harder than you are assuming. Unless of course you have played for or managed a professional football club. In which case I bow to superior knowledge. If not - you are talking through your arse. I'm guessing the latter. Hughes completely changed the style in a pre-season and it was not a tweak but a total transformation. Schumacher’s challenge is he lacks the players to deliver his vision. That assumes the vision is right, Plymouth in the Championship doesn’t provide a definitive answer
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Post by mcw on Feb 8, 2024 11:11:17 GMT
I see Blackburn have picked up the least pts in the Championship over the last 11 games,worst record for goals conceded from goal attempts. Just when they need a lift,who will be turning up? Stoke City of course. Really nervous about this game, the fact that Blackburn are somehow on a run which is worse than ours doesn't fill me with confidence more with dread. If we contrive to lose this game then we really are deep in the mire, getting thumped 0-5 at home by Leicester and following it up with a defeat to a team who are supposedly the worst form team in the league would be very very telling and an indication that confidence is completely shot and the very mini SS revival is well and truly dead in the water. It's going to be a really tentative nervous game between two sides seriously low on confidence and we absolutely must get our heads in front first to take anything from it.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 8, 2024 11:17:42 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 8, 2024 11:26:14 GMT
Looks like they've got Eustace lined up to come in almost straight away
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 8, 2024 11:28:16 GMT
Come on Tomasson, hold on in there!
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Post by scfcno1fan on Feb 8, 2024 11:33:17 GMT
Fuck sake. Because he won’t be motivated to put one over on the team that chose Schumacher over him in the final 2 of the process. We’re done for.
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Post by boothenconvert on Feb 8, 2024 12:30:26 GMT
Good to know other clubs are as fucked up as us What’s going on at Blackburn has been terrible since Venkys bought the club from the Walker family. Full on asset stripping ever since. Any money coming in from players sales not reinvested. The squad is so stretched that academy lads are being used. JDT has done well to last this long and he’s been v frustrated with the false promises from the board. The club under Jack Walker was run fantastically well thanks to the then chairman John Williams. It all fell apart when Venkys took over and employed ill equipped people. Such a sad state of affairs at Ewood Park.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 8, 2024 12:34:30 GMT
This charity bus bollocks really grinds my gears. It's almost self-fulfiiling and the negativity tangible. Let's hope the team show more fight than some of us fans. No-one is more aware of the need for a decent result in the next two games than the manager. Let's keep trusting in him.
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Post by insect on Feb 8, 2024 12:38:41 GMT
This charity bus bollocks really grinds my gears. It's almost self-fulfiiling and the negativity tangible. Let's hope the team show more fight than some of us fans. No-one is more aware of the need for a decent result in the next two games than the manager. Let's keep trusting in him. Think it’s probably more tongue in cheek to be honest. But being a Stoke fan I kinda get it
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 8, 2024 12:41:37 GMT
This charity bus bollocks really grinds my gears. It's almost self-fulfiiling and the negativity tangible. Let's hope the team show more fight than some of us fans. No-one is more aware of the need for a decent result in the next two games than the manager. Let's keep trusting in him. It is negative, tongue in cheek, but mostly based on fact. You cant argue that we have a piss poor record when it comes to teams with a new manager. For balance we don't say 'great they'll get hammered' because we don't.
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