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Post by shakermaker on Feb 1, 2024 10:48:32 GMT
Million Manhoef boarded a plane with his supervisors this morning to complete his transfer to Stoke City. The transfer of 4 million euros is Vitesse's biggest since the sale of Vyacheslav Karavaev for 8 million in the summer window of 2019. And what happened to Vyacheslav Karavaev after that 8 million transfer from Vitesse...? In a word: nothing. Or virtually nothing. Maybe they're just good salesmen in Arnhem... Saying that, another player called Martin Ødegaard played in the same Vitesse team as Karavaev. His transfer fee probably wasn't as high, but fair to say he went on to slightly better things. Vitesse have actually been a breeding ground for some decent players in recent seasons: Marvelous Nakamba, Mason Mount, Armando Broja... ... and Lewis Baker! |
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Post by cja103 on Feb 1, 2024 10:48:47 GMT
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Feb 1, 2024 11:05:17 GMT
Sounds exactly what we need, a pacy, direct winger who is willing to constantly take people on. We did have one of those in Alfie Doughty and let him go because ‘he wasn’t good enough for us’! |
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Post by moon on Feb 1, 2024 11:07:57 GMT
Sounds exactly what we need, a pacy, direct winger who is willing to constantly take people on. We did have one of those in Alfie Doughty and let him go because ‘he wasn’t good enough for us’! Crazy that he didn't get a chance here, nearly 20 games in the premier league, 6 assists and one goal. Fair play to the lad, he has moved on to better things. |
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Post by Glory Hunter on Feb 1, 2024 11:24:01 GMT
I know nothing about this player. But 4 million euros seems steep. His record doesn’t look the best. Albeit he is playing for a team rooted to the bottom of the Dutch league. Hopefully he’s a Burger. Suggest watch the video of him in the thread. |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 1, 2024 11:36:09 GMT
He looks strong and direct to me, with pace and trickery.
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 1, 2024 11:37:47 GMT
We did have one of those in Alfie Doughty and let him go because ‘he wasn’t good enough for us’! Crazy that he didn't get a chance here, nearly 20 games in the premier league, 6 assists and one goal. Fair play to the lad, he has moved on to better things. He didn't get a chance because he arrived injured, and then MON played him more as a wide attacking forward instead of as a wing-back, which is how he has excelled for Luton. I guess that's down to having Tymon as LWB already, which to be fair he had made himself the division's best in that position (for a season at least). |
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Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 11:40:22 GMT
Reminds me of watching Brek Shea's video. And that of Jamie Ness. And... So what you're saying is only sign players that look crap on YouTube videos 😂 I suppose what I imply is don't sign players until you have seen them in person at least 21 times. Or don't sign sunny day players until you've seen them on cold, rainy and windy days... |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 1, 2024 11:41:02 GMT
And what happened to Vyacheslav Karavaev after that 8 million transfer from Vitesse...? In a word: nothing. Or virtually nothing. Maybe they're just good salesmen in Arnhem... Saying that, another player called Martin Ødegaard played in the same Vitesse team as Karavaev. His transfer fee probably wasn't as high, but fair to say he went on to slightly better things. Vitesse have actually been a breeding ground for some decent players in recent seasons: Marvelous Nakamba, Mason Mount, Armando Broja... ... and Lewis Baker! They have an affiliate agreement with Chelsea hence why a lot of Chelsea's younger players are loaned there. |
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Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 11:44:16 GMT
And what happened to Vyacheslav Karavaev after that 8 million transfer from Vitesse...? In a word: nothing. Or virtually nothing. Maybe they're just good salesmen in Arnhem... Saying that, another player called Martin Ødegaard played in the same Vitesse team as Karavaev. His transfer fee probably wasn't as high, but fair to say he went on to slightly better things. Vitesse have actually been a breeding ground for some decent players in recent seasons: Marvelous Nakamba, Mason Mount, Armando Broja... ... and Lewis Baker! There was no fee involved with Ødegaard, because he was on loan (from Real Madrid, and knowing RM as I do, they probably asked a huge loan fee). But your information does prove that they are really good salespeople in Arnhem. |
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Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 11:48:09 GMT
Sounds exactly what we need, a pacy, direct winger who is willing to constantly take people on. We did have one of those in Alfie Doughty and let him go because ‘he wasn’t good enough for us’! That quote is just a smokescreen phrase. He was good enough or we wouldn't have signed him, but for whateever reason he didn't fit in. Whether it was disciplinary problems or if he went out of his way to say he hated Catholics we'll never know. |
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Post by wilcopotter on Feb 1, 2024 11:49:35 GMT
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Post by idle on Feb 1, 2024 11:50:02 GMT
We did have one of those in Alfie Doughty and let him go because ‘he wasn’t good enough for us’! That quote is just a smokescreen phrase. He was good enough or we wouldn't have signed him, but for whateever reason he didn't fit in. Whether it was disciplinary problems or if he went out of his way to say he hated Catholics we'll never know. The suspicion is that he actually want to improve and demanded higher standards in training. But we'll never know until he writes his biography. |
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Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 11:52:38 GMT
That quote is just a smokescreen phrase. He was good enough or we wouldn't have signed him, but for whateever reason he didn't fit in. Whether it was disciplinary problems or if he went out of his way to say he hated Catholics we'll never know. The suspicion is that he actually want to improve and demanded higher standards in training. But we'll never know until he writes his biography. His biography of Michael O'Neill...? Or his own autobiography, maybe... |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Feb 1, 2024 11:52:38 GMT
The guy who has been absolutely spot on with everything regarding us for a year now. Works for TeamTalk |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 1, 2024 12:06:45 GMT
Let's cut to the chase here.
Is he any good at darts?
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Post by mcw on Feb 1, 2024 12:46:02 GMT
Have to say this comment made me chuckle "Million is a player that creates a lot of scoring opportunities with his crosses, but unfortunately they are not converted into assists due to the poor play of Vitesse's forwards". Fast forward a few months and the only word in that sentence you may need to replace is Stoke with Vitesse... Hopefully someone can come up with a Carl Saunders-esque run of form. Or even better a Peter Thorne type turn of form. Easy to forget his first two seasons he score 9 & 12 and wasn't setting the world alight in his 3rd season before exploding after sticking 4 past Chesterfield. I absolutely loved Peter Thorne when he signed from Swindon. At the beginning you could see that he was doing all the right things, but somehow it just wasn't dropping for him. With him you could tell it was only a matter of time, with the fear being he would be shipped off before it clicked. I desperately want that to be the case with Mmaee, but I am not sure he has the same work ethic or physicality to bring his talents out.... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 12:54:23 GMT
That quote is just a smokescreen phrase. He was good enough or we wouldn't have signed him, but for whateever reason he didn't fit in. Whether it was disciplinary problems or if he went out of his way to say he hated Catholics we'll never know. The suspicion is that he actually want to improve and demanded higher standards in training. But we'll never know until he writes his biography. Or perhaps, a young lad recovering from injury struggled to get used to life in a different part of the country, so he asked to move back south and Stoke cut their losses? |
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 1, 2024 12:57:24 GMT
I reckon we can't be far off the panic posts, because he's not been announced yet.
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Post by swampmongrel on Feb 1, 2024 14:47:21 GMT
Why’s nothing been announced yet?
I’ve got a bad feeling this will fall through!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 1, 2024 15:04:11 GMT
Why’s nothing been announced yet? I’ve got a bad feeling this will fall through! Here we go, first panic post.. took a lot longer than normal. |
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Post by badger on Feb 1, 2024 15:05:31 GMT
I reckon we can't be far off the panic posts, because he's not been announced yet. 2hrs to go yet, we love a 5pm announcement |
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Post by Maccasbarmyarmy on Feb 1, 2024 15:09:40 GMT
Why’s nothing been announced yet? I’ve got a bad feeling this will fall through! They are working on other deals currently |
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Post by jeycov on Feb 1, 2024 15:10:17 GMT
Maybe we’re waiting to announce all our signings at the same time 🤔
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Post by clarkeda on Feb 1, 2024 15:24:53 GMT
I like the look of this one.
Only thing I still don’t like is we’re not a very big/physical team.
Wilmot is small and not very physical
Hoever is on the bigger side for a full back
Rose is tall not physical
McNally isn’t massively tall or massively physical
Burger is the only tall and physical CM we have (Thompson’s physical /combative not tall)
You get the idea.
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 1, 2024 15:29:29 GMT
Maybe we’re waiting to announce all our signings at the same time 🤔 The minute you see the official announcement you will know we are not working on anymore. It's the same every window |
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Post by a on Feb 1, 2024 15:29:40 GMT
Maybe we’re waiting to announce all our signings at the same time 🤔 That’s what people are saying. When will they announce our one signing? 😂 |
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Post by eriksson74 on Feb 1, 2024 15:30:39 GMT
I like the look of this one. Only thing I still don’t like is we’re not a very big/physical team. Wilmot is small and not very physical Hoever is on the bigger side for a full back Rose is tall not physical McNally isn’t massively tall or massively physical Burger is the only tall and physical CM we have (Thompson’s physical /combative not tall) You get the idea. Yes we aren't a big / Physical side! I'm sure I saw some stat the other day that had us in top 5 for fouls committed though. Got to admit have never heard of Manhoef, but reading up on him etc, if he settles (Burger and Hoever will help) could be some decent business |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Feb 1, 2024 15:31:45 GMT
Crazy that he didn't get a chance here, nearly 20 games in the premier league, 6 assists and one goal. Fair play to the lad, he has moved on to better things. He didn't get a chance because he arrived injured, and then MON played him more as a wide attacking forward instead of as a wing-back, which is how he has excelled for Luton. I guess that's down to having Tymon as LWB already, which to be fair he had made himself the division's best in that position (for a season at least). The reality to me is in between those two posts. There was plenty of opportunity where Tymon looked knackered and Doughty could've been brought on for 20 minutes at least. I like(d) O'Neill a lot, but his use/non-use of some players was baffling, though we never know what was going on behind the scenes. |
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Post by a on Feb 1, 2024 15:32:18 GMT
I like the look of this one. Only thing I still don’t like is we’re not a very big/physical team. Wilmot is small and not very physical Hoever is on the bigger side for a full back Rose is tall not physical McNally isn’t massively tall or massively physical Burger is the only tall and physical CM we have (Thompson’s physical /combative not tall) You get the idea. Yes we aren't a big / Physical side! I'm sure I saw some stat the other day that had us in top 5 for fouls committed though That’s just Pearson |
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