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Post by greystokie on Dec 23, 2023 15:57:51 GMT
Is it that full time ………I’ve just woke up!? Me too!😏
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Dec 23, 2023 15:57:56 GMT
A couple of goals have totally masked how shit he is. See also Andre Vidigal. Ange thought our forward line was the best in the league.
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Post by milky on Dec 23, 2023 15:58:02 GMT
What to make of that?
Most if them look like they've been at the Christmas sherry already.
Consistently overhit/ underhit passes,Consistently failing to control the ball,absolutely woeful crossing and total confusion between Hoever and Leris half the time .
Has the manager confused them ,he seemed to be doing a lot of whistling and pointing.
Or are they just poor players.
One things for certain, on the evidence of that 1st half he has his work cut out for sure.
The positives are Burger looks OK and the fact we aren't losing because Millwall are utter dogshit !
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 23, 2023 15:58:10 GMT
It’s going to take a few games to shake the Neil out of this team. Thankfully we’re almost in January. I think it's wishful thinking to believe that Neil was all of the problem. He was only the problem in that he assembled such a poor bunch of spineless players. This a massive job for anyone as it stands.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 23, 2023 15:58:39 GMT
I feel like SS has a ‘mate’s’ approach to the players, I hope not, as this bunch need a theoretical kick up the arse, hard line approach, possibly
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Post by satoshi on Dec 23, 2023 15:58:56 GMT
He won league 1 as a rookie Football management is an odd thing, sometimes a manager can do well at a club if he comes in and they’ve already got forward momentum, sometimes the success of a manager can also have as much to do with back room staff ie Nathan jones at Luton! Are you writing him off?
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Post by tqstokie on Dec 23, 2023 15:59:01 GMT
Dropping Thompson has not improved anything. Put Junior on for Hoever and Junho for Johnson. Haksa in place of Leris or Vidigal.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 23, 2023 16:00:38 GMT
Aboslutely no difference to what we saw before.
The foreign players are just not up for a Championship level gave with tackles flying in and head tennis.
Vidigal cant find a yard of space and is so easily tackled out of the game.
Mmae I would say is actually trying to toughen up a bit but hes struggling.
Leris is just on the pitch putting the odd tackle in. Great for a right winger I suppose.
Take space away from them and they really look piss poor
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Post by serpico on Dec 23, 2023 16:01:01 GMT
We’ve signed a boatload of duff players, that’s the problem. I’m worried! I have the same feeling about this group as the one that got relegated from the premiership and before that the 97 relegation side!
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Post by maine on Dec 23, 2023 16:01:23 GMT
ESPN commentator said 'If you like football, I apologize'. On Leris. 'I've no idea what he was trying to do there'. At half time, something about 'having no highlights to show'.
All accurate. Only Burger played well.
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 23, 2023 16:01:26 GMT
Dropping Thompson has not improved anything. Put Junior on for Hoever and Junho for Johnson. Haksa in place of Leris or Vidigal. Hope schuey has the courage to make changes. I'd be happy with those.
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Post by tejstokie on Dec 23, 2023 16:01:27 GMT
Aboslutely no difference to what we saw before. The foreign players are just not up for a Championship level gave with tackles flying in and head tennis. Vidigal cant find a yard of space and is so easily tackled out of the game. Mmae I would say is actually trying to toughen up a bit but hes struggling. Leris is just on the pitch putting the odd tackle in. Great for a right winger I suppose. Take space away from them and they really look piss poor You can't have a whole team of foreigners its just wank.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 23, 2023 16:01:54 GMT
Jared’s 10 page presentation.
Wonder what joys will be on that….
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Post by serpico on Dec 23, 2023 16:02:32 GMT
Football management is an odd thing, sometimes a manager can do well at a club if he comes in and they’ve already got forward momentum, sometimes the success of a manager can also have as much to do with back room staff ie Nathan jones at Luton! Are you writing him off? No, I’m just far more skeptical than many on here about him, it’s nothing personal, I just have my doubts he’s the right man for us atm.
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Post by satoshi on Dec 23, 2023 16:03:15 GMT
ESPN commentator said 'If you like football, I apologize'. On Leris. 'I've no idea what he was trying to do there'. At half time, something about 'having no highlights to show'. All accurate. Only Burger played well. We’re back then 😂
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 23, 2023 16:03:20 GMT
Aboslutely no difference to what we saw before. The foreign players are just not up for a Championship level gave with tackles flying in and head tennis. Vidigal cant find a yard of space and is so easily tackled out of the game. Mmae I would say is actually trying to toughen up a bit but hes struggling. Leris is just on the pitch putting the odd tackle in. Great for a right winger I suppose. Take space away from them and they really look piss poor I think you're right about Mmae. Seen decent flashes today and think he's catching up. Vidigal hopefully just needs some time to get his head back in the game. His mistakes were stuff like waiting for the ball to come to him and that gave them time to reset. Leris... Really worrying.
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Post by idle on Dec 23, 2023 16:03:41 GMT
We're not really playing as a unit, and missing Pearson a lot. Burger has been too slow as the deep laying playmaker, except the one time where no one joined Mmaee in the attack.
Leris is all work and no skill, Vidigal is neither. Mmaee is still isolated, but tries too much fancy stuff.
Johnson and Burger have been ok, both a bit slow, perhaps looking for diagonal runs that aren't coming. Laurent have been both invisible and shite at the same time.
Defence have been good, but not going much forward.
We look like we've set up pretty defensively, which is understandable, but we need to do more.
Millwall does their usual unwashed brute cameo, no surprises there. They've had a few chances though, we've had one half-chance.
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Post by satoshi on Dec 23, 2023 16:03:47 GMT
No, I’m just far more skeptical than many on here about him, it’s nothing personal, I just have my doubts he’s the right man for us atm. The odds are in your favour
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 23, 2023 16:04:48 GMT
No, I’m just far more skeptical than many on here about him, it’s nothing personal, I just have my doubts he’s the right man for us atm. I’m hoping he does the job. But for me it’s too similar to the mad Nath appointment.
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 23, 2023 16:04:51 GMT
My mates got glass eyes and they're closed.
Rodney T mom so far
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 23, 2023 16:05:15 GMT
Aboslutely no difference to what we saw before. The foreign players are just not up for a Championship level gave with tackles flying in and head tennis. Vidigal cant find a yard of space and is so easily tackled out of the game. Mmae I would say is actually trying to toughen up a bit but hes struggling. Leris is just on the pitch putting the odd tackle in. Great for a right winger I suppose. Take space away from them and they really look piss poor You can't have a whole team of foreigners its just wank. Its not meant to sound racist at all. BUT they are clearly not used to man-marking and tackles flying in with no space. I actually think Mmae is starting to get used to it since he first came to England. There are small signs hes getting it - a couple of flicks and lay-offs and then turn and go.
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Post by collo68 on Dec 23, 2023 16:05:26 GMT
Interesting he’s played Burger in front of the back four and he’s played well. Think there will be a few changes on 60/65 mins.
Go 3 at the back and play someone with Mmaee as he will score
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 23, 2023 16:06:50 GMT
We’ve probably realised but the players are the bigger issue here.
Front 3, garbage.
Midfield, poor overall.
Hoever, garbage.
Gooch, neither here nor there.
CBs ok, nothing to do, same with Bonham.
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 23, 2023 16:06:53 GMT
Can we be any worse in the second half?
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Post by Gunslinger on Dec 23, 2023 16:09:11 GMT
No revolution so far from Schumacher. Very little or no change from AN, actually. Half-time talk will hopefully change things a bit
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Post by serpico on Dec 23, 2023 16:09:36 GMT
No, I’m just far more skeptical than many on here about him, it’s nothing personal, I just have my doubts he’s the right man for us atm. I’m hoping he does the job. But for me it’s too similar to the mad Nath appointment. Like jones, did Shuey have back room men pulling the strings ? I know mick Harford at Luton was a very important figure RE recruitment. We pluck these managers from these clubs and they never seem to replicate the same success for us!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 16:09:48 GMT
This is absolutely fucking tragic.
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 23, 2023 16:10:42 GMT
Good move.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 23, 2023 16:11:04 GMT
Leris...again!
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 23, 2023 16:11:09 GMT
6 years of trying and we have this bunch of players and a manager with 2 years experience
Brilliant club management
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