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Post by stoke247 on Dec 15, 2023 11:06:52 GMT
Thoughts on Lee Carsley and apparently have held talks and currently Englands u21 boss!..
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Post by franklin on Dec 15, 2023 11:09:06 GMT
No ta having access to the best young talent with the U21's doesn't equate to success at club level.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 15, 2023 11:34:00 GMT
Underwhelming news to say the least!
GET NUNO IN.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2023 11:41:53 GMT
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Post by neddy on Dec 15, 2023 11:42:36 GMT
I thought the Mail said he doesn’t want Stoke.
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Post by lordb on Dec 15, 2023 12:05:05 GMT
Would be a coup
Surprised he's been linked with a bottom half Championship side tbh
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Post by canadianmoose on Dec 15, 2023 12:07:51 GMT
There is already a thread regarding new manager choices where Carsley has been discussed to death.
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Post by moon on Dec 15, 2023 12:08:57 GMT
Would be a coup Surprised he's been linked with a bottom half Championship side tbh He’d be a gamble wherever he goes next? Great record with the U21s but managing in the league is quite a change. |
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 15, 2023 12:13:22 GMT
Can we not just merge with managerial thread
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 15, 2023 12:14:51 GMT
Can we not just merge with managerial thread Nah, The Oatcake is better when there are more threads. More organic and easy to follow than random thread necromancy, too. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2023 12:17:34 GMT
Can we not just merge with managerial thread Nah, The Oatcake is better when there are more threads. More organic and easy to follow than random thread necromancy, too. Agreed. You have to spend all your time on the managerial thread and if there are multiple links, there are multiple different subjects being discussed at the same time. We are looking for a manager, each link should be individual. |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Dec 15, 2023 12:36:39 GMT
Thoughts on Lee Carsley and apparently have held talks and currently Englands u21 boss!.. Would think they've held initial talks with dozens, and probably most of the names already mentioned. Once they dismiss those who aren't interested, too expensive. Or they just don't fancy. Then the next round of talks with a chosen handful will take place. I guess we're only just approaching that stage, narrowing down to a smaller number at this point. |
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Post by somersetstokie on Dec 15, 2023 12:42:34 GMT
Can we not just merge with managerial thread Nah, The Oatcake is better when there are more threads. More organic and easy to follow than random thread necromancy, too. Exactly. More threads give more opportunities for abuse and unfounded gossip and brings the dark side of the Oatie MB more into focus. |
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Post by somersetstokie on Dec 15, 2023 12:46:28 GMT
Thoughts on Lee Carsley and apparently have held talks and currently Englands u21 boss!.. Would think they've held initial talks with dozens, and probably most of the names already mentioned. Once they dismiss those who aren't interested, too expensive. Or they just don't fancy. Then the next round of talks with a chosen handful will take place. I guess we're only just approaching that stage, narrowing down to a smaller number at this point. It's a good job we don't have to wait for a Managers Transfer window! |
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Post by ibby on Dec 15, 2023 13:59:00 GMT
God help Stoke.
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Post by stokiesteve on Dec 15, 2023 14:01:13 GMT
Gamble
He has no experience managing a club and hasn’t been tested. Coaching willing juveniles and managing a struggling championship club are chalk and cheese.
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Post by marwood on Dec 15, 2023 14:07:10 GMT
He has a nice watch (probably)
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 15, 2023 14:07:20 GMT
Gamble He has no experience managing a club and hasn’t been tested. Coaching willing juveniles and managing a struggling championship club are chalk and cheese. Steve Cooper went straight from managing England U17s to Swansea – he didn't do too badly! |
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 15, 2023 14:26:33 GMT
Reckon he is new fave at Stoke now Sunderland going with beale
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Post by skip on Dec 15, 2023 14:37:45 GMT
He has a nice watch (probably)  He sports an Apple Watch rather than one designed for deep sea divers, yacht owners, or some other gratuitous timepiece. Modernity and progressive functionality. Bodes well. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2023 14:46:51 GMT
If he's got any sense he'll stay where he is.
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Post by stokiesteve on Dec 15, 2023 14:53:43 GMT
Gamble He has no experience managing a club and hasn’t been tested. Coaching willing juveniles and managing a struggling championship club are chalk and cheese. Steve Cooper went straight from managing England U17s to Swansea – he didn't do too badly! Yep agreed. He made the leap and was successful It’s still a gamble. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Dec 15, 2023 15:14:10 GMT
He has a nice watch (probably) He sports an Apple Watch rather than one designed for deep sea divers, yacht owners, or some other gratuitous timepiece. Modernity and progressive functionality. Bodes well. Prefer Nuno’s TAG |
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 15, 2023 15:38:35 GMT
Not enamoured with this rumour at all, very mixed managerial record with an outstanding achievement at international youth level. Not for me
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Post by frasier37 on Dec 15, 2023 15:53:44 GMT
Tell him run a mile, it's a poisoned challis.
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Post by Veritas on Dec 15, 2023 16:11:02 GMT
Tell him run a mile, it's a poisoned challis. Boycie has been poisoned!! |
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Post by Veritas on Dec 15, 2023 16:12:27 GMT
Steve Cooper went straight from managing England U17s to Swansea – he didn't do too badly! Yep agreed. He made the leap and was successful It’s still a gamble. Pretty much any appointment we make will be a gamble, the dead certs are out of our league at present. |
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Post by banksisgod on Dec 15, 2023 18:05:10 GMT
Anyone who takes the job is taking a gamble too!!
Ours has been a basket-case club for too long now, and a loaf of decent bread has a good chance of lasting longer than a Stoke City manager.
Given our recent record, therefore, we really should not be looking a gift horse in the mouth if someone like Carsley makes himself available to us.
He has left a positive (or very positive) impression in every coaching job that he has held. He has worked at club level with Man City, so he would not be entirely un-used to club football.
Clearly, he has the Midas touch with young players, who seem to buy in to his playing philosophy; either that, or he sees what he has to work with, and builds a style to suit the players. Whatever it is, it works.
Yes, he would be coming into a situation where he is working with other peoples players. Let's not forget, though, that those players have shown through their performances against the likes of Sunderland, Leeds and others, that they can play. It's not that they don't have it; it just needs to be re-discovered, and I think that Carsley, with his clear coaching acumen, and his ability to make training hard, but entertaining, is the guy to do it.
Finally, with his success with the English U21's, surely a better quality of young player would be tempted to come to a club where he is coach?
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Post by andystokey on Dec 15, 2023 18:11:02 GMT
People close to him suggest he has been building up to his first managerial role for 14 years. Kevin Kilbane reckons he's turned down a few champo clubs before. I think he knows exactly what he is looking for.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2023 18:12:26 GMT
Tell him run a mile, it's a poisoned challis. Boycie has been poisoned!! Possibly. He is dead. |
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