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Post by milky on Dec 14, 2023 6:52:19 GMT
I'd love this to be true, I really would but it seems pie in the sky stuff.
Has his stock fallen so low that he would join a championship club that could well be in the bottom 3 after the weekend?
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 14, 2023 6:54:00 GMT
Nuno would be to us what Postecoglu has been to Spurs. Australian? |
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Post by st3mark on Dec 14, 2023 7:03:41 GMT
Sadly I don't believe this for a second.
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Dec 14, 2023 7:04:54 GMT
I use to work with a guy who knew him really well. Top bloke and a lovely family.
So he's a decent bloke and Portuguese but is his record that good? He got Wolves promoted obviously but what happened after that and what happened at Spurs. I don't know how good a manager and coach he is. It seems like people are getting excited because he is foreign and we know of him. What will he be like with his hands tied financially. Time will tell which way this all goes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 7:07:39 GMT
Sadly I don't believe this for a second. Deep down I don't think anybody does... |
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Post by stokieinlondon on Dec 14, 2023 7:23:43 GMT
Santo’s laws are coming to town
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 14, 2023 7:27:32 GMT
Sadly I don't believe this for a second. Deep down I don't think anybody does... I actually believe wed try but i think the financial numenrs are against us which is the nonsense of FFP people woht ther reposirced held back from improving for the sake of those who cant be responsible within thero own resources . if its the case the the cycle continues of a mediocre manager struggling with players destine for leagie one , this is our Eddie Howe moment and it wil be a huge shame of we can’t grasp it beciaee we aren’t allowed to |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 14, 2023 7:29:45 GMT
Has he really got the motivation for a championship relegation battle?
I’m not so sure.
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Post by SCFC92 on Dec 14, 2023 7:30:58 GMT
Has he really got the motivation for a championship relegation battle? I’m not so sure. No and if he came here I'm sure we wouldn't be in that battle, nor would he intend to be. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Dec 14, 2023 7:37:21 GMT
Does anyone believe a guy on twitter saying he’s applied for the job? Get real ffs When that person has been right multiple times about transfers..yes there's reason to believe it. This isn't a complete randomer. He said he has "1000% applied" and his interview is set to be today. |
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Post by stokieinlondon on Dec 14, 2023 7:39:21 GMT
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Post by st13stokie on Dec 14, 2023 7:41:30 GMT
Peri peri pulis time baby 🤞🤞🤞
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 14, 2023 7:42:34 GMT
I imagine we should get a clearer picture today of where we stand on the manager front, if not Nuno (very very unlikely) possibly another one we haven't even mentioned yet, with an announcement possibly Friday or before matchday on Sunday. I like most Stokies expect it to be Eustace, so go on Stoke amaze me.
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Post by troj on Dec 14, 2023 7:43:59 GMT
Take this for what it is, a rumour/ just sharing what I heard.
Guy from BET365 is aware Stoke have approached a few managers, Eustace and Mowbray, but he believes Nuno has applied? Ie wasn’t approached but applied in his own right. Stoke are surprised he applied
No idea how reliable this is but the fella does work in a corporate role at BET 🤷♂️
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Dec 14, 2023 7:47:17 GMT
Take this for what it is, a rumour/ just sharing what I heard. Guy from BET365 is aware Stoke have approached a few managers, Eustace and Mowbray, but he believes Nuno has applied? Ie wasn’t approached but applied in his own right. Stoke are surprised he applied No idea how reliable this is but the fella does work in a corporate role at BET 🤷♂️ If he’s applied we should snap his hands off that to me says a lot more about desire than someone being asked and it’s the sort of thing the fans would love. |
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Post by st13stokie on Dec 14, 2023 7:47:21 GMT
Gritty side with a touch of Portuguese magic… Sao Tome to Stoke, from that yank Levy to the main man Coates. We can dream again. We are Stoke!
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 14, 2023 7:50:14 GMT
I think the overall package required for Nuno would be too much for FPP, which is a shame,as it would be a massive statement by the club.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 14, 2023 8:00:16 GMT
I think the overall package required for Nuno would be too much for FPP, which is a shame,as it would be a massive statement by the club. We were allegedly willing to throw money at Potter than some Prem managers don't get. We spent money in the summer but we also brought a fair bit in and probably reduced the wage bill further still, not to mention we've still got the Souttar money in play as well or part of it. Nuno's coming off the back of a mega money stint in Saudi and would've had a tidy pay off from Spurs too, there's every chance that his demands may actually be fairly reasonable especially if he see's this as a project that can get his career back on track. |
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Post by st13stokie on Dec 14, 2023 8:04:54 GMT
Personally believe we’re going end up with someone like Mowbray/Eustace. Which I believe the Coates would have considered till the end of the season. Maybe Nuno who I believe still has a property in the area (read on here) has seen our squad, owners, fans and ground, maybe he wants to prove that he is as good as we expect. He’s had turmoil since leaving wolves not financially wise, just maybe he wants to steady the ship and get back to boots on the wet grass in England. Money is obviously not a problem for him right now as reported with his payments from the Arabs and Spurs. Until I see Eustace or Mowbray at CW or 365. Let’s just hope and believe that JC has seen the enthusiasm from us as fans at the difference an appointment like Nuno would do to us. Just hope FFP is not the reason we don’t end up with Nuno.
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Post by cdf on Dec 14, 2023 8:05:34 GMT
I use to work with a guy who knew him really well. Top bloke and a lovely family. So he's a decent bloke and Portuguese but is his record that good? He got Wolves promoted obviously but what happened after that and what happened at Spurs. I don't know how good a manager and coach he is. It seems like people are getting excited because he is foreign and we know of him. What will he be like with his hands tied financially. Time will tell which way this all goes. He did really well with Wolves in the Championship & then with them in the Premier League. I know it did not work out for him at Spurs but he must have done something right at Wolves for Spurs to want him in the first place |
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Post by cdf on Dec 14, 2023 8:08:42 GMT
In regards to the money that someone like Potter would want or even Santo, is their a way around the FFP where some of the wages where they could be employed by BET365 or is that what Man City are currently being charged with?
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 14, 2023 8:13:25 GMT
I think the overall package required for Nuno would be too much for FPP, which is a shame,as it would be a massive statement by the club. We were allegedly willing to throw money at Potter than some Prem managers don't get. We spent money in the summer but we also brought a fair bit in and probably reduced the wage bill further still, not to mention we've still got the Souttar money in play as well or part of it. Nuno's coming off the back of a mega money stint in Saudi and would've had a tidy pay off from Spurs too, there's every chance that his demands may actually be fairly reasonable especially if he see's this as a project that can get his career back on track. This was my rationale for him applying. Nuno doesn’t actually need the money which is why he’s possibly amenable to dropping into the Champo for a ‘project’ job. The only risk is that if he’s doing really well here, other clubs will be reminded of how good he is and his past achievements, and if a Premier League club came calling, because he’s already loaded he would do the rare thing and resign, leaving us up shit creek to pick up the pieces of a project borne in Nuno’s vision. If Nuno comes, it’s imperative we have a succession plan. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2023 8:15:15 GMT
Interesting article from last year... theathletic.com/3517157/2022/08/19/nuno-espirito-santo-wolves-spurs/If you weren’t aware, Nuno is back in work now, having taken time out post-Spurs to spend time with his family back home in Portugal while assessing his options and perusing job offers (including positions in Turkey and Brazil). Where has he wound up? Al-Ittihad in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. He’s been joined there by the perennially-young Scottish coach Ian Cathro (still only 36 years old) who was also with Nuno at Portugal’s Rio Ave, Valencia in Spain, Wolves and Spurs, plus goalkeeping coach Rui Barbosa. No doubt working in Saudi Arabia offers an interesting challenge for Nuno and Cathro, certainly culturally, but it’s hard to envisage them there were it not for the obvious financial benefits. And it feels like a waste. But in terms of a career move? Well, it depends what Nuno wants from his career, but it doesn’t feel right for a man often described as a genius by those who worked with him at Wolves (and by himself to The Athletic once upon a time) to sit outside football’s mainstream. Taking the Spurs job was a gamble which didn’t pay off. He may have been handsomely rewarded with a large pay-off when he left, but Nuno’s reputation suffered in those few months. His stock post-Wolves was still high, despite a dodgy final season. The previous three years were basically perfect (winning the Championship title and then finishing seventh, twice, in the Premier League while also reaching that Europa League quarter-final and an FA Cup semi-final Wolves were three minutes from winning) and led him to be linked with all manner of high-profile jobs, most notably the Arsenal one. Joining the other north London giants didn’t suit him. He found some of their distracted and unwanted players hard to manage, he faced an insurmountable battle to earn their respect, given he was so clearly a long way down Tottenham’s list of candidates, and he had an unhappy Harry Kane to deal with. Yes, he made mistakes, but against his better judgement (he was believed to be reluctant to take the job until his agent Jorge Mendes convinced him otherwise) it was a role he should, in glorious hindsight, have turned down. He should have gone to Crystal Palace, who had strongly courted him. Those close to Nuno say that, post-Spurs, he was looking for a fresh project and a mountain to climb in the manner of what he achieved with Wolves, taking a team up a few levels and galvanising a group of mouldable players with small egos for footballers (Nuno doesn’t like being challenged). Those opportunities, even when your agent and close friend is Mendes, don’t come around very often. So for now, it’s Al-Ittihad. He’ll be acutely aware of his reputation having taken a hit, but he’ll also know that being out of sight of European football means being out of mind. However well he does, it’s unlikely he’ll be there long, given Al-Ittihad have had 20 permanent managers since 2010. At Wolves, he transformed a team, a club and a city, conducting one of the best teams ever seen at the second level of English football. They may not have reached 100 points or broken records, but when Wolves were at their best in the Championship it was football from another league. He helped launch the top-level careers of not only Conor Coady and Doherty, but also Diogo Jota, Ruben Neves and Pedro Neto. He became a hero to his people. He took Wolves to places they didn’t think they would reach again. In short, he’s far too good to be out in Saudi Arabia, as is the astute and talented Cathro. If he ever does return to English football, he’ll forever receive a warm reception from Wolves supporters. Spurs fans? Possibly not so much. |
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Dec 14, 2023 8:15:28 GMT
I use to work with a guy who knew him really well. Top bloke and a lovely family. So he's a decent bloke and Portuguese but is his record that good? He got Wolves promoted obviously but what happened after that and what happened at Spurs. I don't know how good a manager and coach he is. It seems like people are getting excited because he is foreign and we know of him. What will he be like with his hands tied financially. Time will tell which way this all goes. He did really well with Wolves in the Championship & then with them in the Premier League. I know it did not work out for him at Spurs but he must have done something right at Wolves for Spurs to want him in the first place There just seems to be hysteria about him but I'm not sure he's the messiah. Problem is, I don't know what we need but if we don't get Nuno the next person is on a hiding to none...like the lambert moment. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 14, 2023 8:15:53 GMT
I use to work with a guy who knew him really well. Top bloke and a lovely family. So he's a decent bloke and Portuguese but is his record that good? He got Wolves promoted obviously but what happened after that and what happened at Spurs. I don't know how good a manager and coach he is. It seems like people are getting excited because he is foreign and we know of him. What will he be like with his hands tied financially. Time will tell which way this all goes. After getting Wolves promoted he got them into Europe One season Wolves got more points off top 6 clubs than any other club |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 14, 2023 8:19:48 GMT
Sunderland were in the Playoffs when we prised the dour one from them.
Santo would be a massive statement of intent, if JC wants to start unraveling the absolute mess he’s created this would go a long way to start that process.
And he’d weed out the shithouses we have leeching around.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 8:20:17 GMT
Take this for what it is, a rumour/ just sharing what I heard. Guy from BET365 is aware Stoke have approached a few managers, Eustace and Mowbray, but he believes Nuno has applied? Ie wasn’t approached but applied in his own right. Stoke are surprised he applied No idea how reliable this is but the fella does work in a corporate role at BET 🤷♂️ If he’s applied we should snap his hands off that to me says a lot more about desire than someone being asked and it’s the sort of thing the fans would love. He will be interviewing us as much as the other way around. It will be a case of can we make the numbers work in terms of paying him and his staff and still leave some in the pot for players. If it wasn't for ffp I would be confident we could sell him the project but sadly I fear it will scupper this wonderful opportunity. |
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Post by mamasidibescfc on Dec 14, 2023 8:20:57 GMT
The worry I have with this whole Nuno thing is, people have got so excited about it that if it is anyone else the usual stokie negativity is going to settle in even before a ball is kicked
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2023 8:30:17 GMT
Tears are going to be shed when this rumour is put to bed  theathletic.com/2672722/2021/06/25/sure-nunos-wolves-were-pragmatic-but-they-were-also-exhilarating-spurs-fans-shouldnt-dismiss-him-out-of-hand/Pragmatic is the word for him. Nuno builds his teams from the back, placing an obsessive emphasis on shape and structure. That’s why Wolves had such a good defensive record from 2017 to 2020. They kept 13 clean sheets in 21 games either side of lockdown. But boring? Last season, yes, with so many circumstances at play. Before that? No, it was a thrilling and exhilarating ride that Wolves never wanted to get off. Nuno improved players young and old, getting the very best from the likes of Doherty, Jimenez, Romain Saiss, Traore, Pedro Neto, Coady and Ryan Bennett, who all made massive personal improvements during his tenure. And the players loved him, not to mention the fans. More than just guiding a team from Championship obscurity to Europe, Nuno united the fanbase and the whole city in a way not achieved by a single individual since backstreet international Steve Bull broke every goalscoring record going when propelling Wolves up two divisions in the late 1980s. Nuno became a cult all of his own. The beard, the smile, the philosophical musings, the passion and the frenzied celebrations, occasionally on the pitch. He pissed off Neil Warnock, Tony Pulis and Steve Bruce, and they loved him for it. Was he a media darling? Absolutely not. Did the fans or players care? Of course they didn’t. From the stands they universally adored him, from the dressing room they deeply admired and respected him (and he never once came close to throwing them, or anyone else from the club, under the bus in public, he’s got too much integrity for that). They shed tears when he left. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2023 8:32:29 GMT
Tears are going to be shed when this rumour is put to bed theathletic.com/2672722/2021/06/25/sure-nunos-wolves-were-pragmatic-but-they-were-also-exhilarating-spurs-fans-shouldnt-dismiss-him-out-of-hand/Pragmatic is the word for him. Nuno builds his teams from the back, placing an obsessive emphasis on shape and structure. That’s why Wolves had such a good defensive record from 2017 to 2020. They kept 13 clean sheets in 21 games either side of lockdown. But boring? Last season, yes, with so many circumstances at play. Before that? No, it was a thrilling and exhilarating ride that Wolves never wanted to get off. Nuno improved players young and old, getting the very best from the likes of Doherty, Jimenez, Romain Saiss, Traore, Pedro Neto, Coady and Ryan Bennett, who all made massive personal improvements during his tenure. And the players loved him, not to mention the fans. More than just guiding a team from Championship obscurity to Europe, Nuno united the fanbase and the whole city in a way not achieved by a single individual since backstreet international Steve Bull broke every goalscoring record going when propelling Wolves up two divisions in the late 1980s. Nuno became a cult all of his own. The beard, the smile, the philosophical musings, the passion and the frenzied celebrations, occasionally on the pitch. He pissed off Neil Warnock, Tony Pulis and Steve Bruce, and they loved him for it. Was he a media darling? Absolutely not. Did the fans or players care? Of course they didn’t. From the stands they universally adored him, from the dressing room they deeply admired and respected him (and he never once came close to throwing them, or anyone else from the club, under the bus in public, he’s got too much integrity for that). They shed tears when he left. I read his name, shrugged my shoulders. Then came on here and Twitter. I just thought he was a dour fuck tbh. |
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