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Post by mickmillslovechild on Dec 7, 2023 16:03:40 GMT
love you say that to my face dick wad , ill beat the living shit out of yeah , i drink round hanley a saturday come find me đ âI drink round Hanleyâ Slogger's back from the A league, it appears! It's either him or Ronnie Pickering, I'm sure of it ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Dec 7, 2023 16:06:37 GMT
Thing is though he's right isn't he, non of them actually sound like a commentator, it's just box ticking woke bollocks. Fair play to him actually having the bollocks to stand up and actually say something cause everyone is scared with the way the woke brigade are these days. Â Be careful speaking your mind mate, some of these lads are on their period. Nothing wrong with speaking his mind, but surely part of doing so is accepting that some people might disagree with him without perjoratively labelling them for doing so?
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 7, 2023 16:09:58 GMT
đ âI drink round Hanleyâ Slogger's back from the A league, it appears! It's either him or Ronnie Pickering, I'm sure of it ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) Who? đ
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 7, 2023 16:23:54 GMT
Slogger. The good old times they were. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by KyleLightbulb on Dec 7, 2023 17:16:06 GMT
yeah , i know a couple , some women pundits have ruined the experience tbf My father in law, he is 74 and watched and played football for 60 plus years, he has now stopped watching football on the box because of the political correctness of having to have a woman on for the sake of having a woman on, they do it to not offend, but what about the people they do offendâŚjust have the best people on it whether they are male or femaleâŚitâs crackers If anyone is "offended" by there being a woman on their TV screen during the football, they are a nonce and the police should seize their hard drive.
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 7, 2023 17:45:12 GMT
He should be free to his opinion without fear of it affecting his career. He was clumsy in what he was saying but he is only saying what many donât have the balls to. Womens football is a different game and should be a completely different entity. Womens commentary on menâs football however is different and a matter of taste. Media meddling into the norms of the menâs game is the problem here. Give it 5 - 10years before we see Women included in menâs teams.
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Post by hoppo96 on Dec 7, 2023 17:48:28 GMT
If your football experience has been ruined because a few women talk about it on TV then yeah, you're a soft precious twat mate love you say that to my face dick wad , ill beat the living shit out of yeah , i drink round hanley a saturday come find me this your first time posting on a football forum?
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Post by hoppo96 on Dec 7, 2023 18:08:41 GMT
He should be free to his opinion without fear of it affecting his career. He was clumsy in what he was saying but he is only saying what many donât have the balls to. Womens football is a different game and should be a completely different entity. Womens commentary on menâs football however is different and a matter of taste. Media meddling into the norms of the menâs game is the problem here. Give it 5 - 10years before we see Women included in menâs teams. what is meddling? Why would women be included in men's teams? Most people 'have the balls' to say stuff like this, it's just nonsense though so the vast majority think it's a rubbish opinion.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 7, 2023 18:18:42 GMT
He should be able to say what he likes and deal with the replies if heâs posting it on Twatter. I donât really have time for any pundits. I like to watch Roy Keane after Man United have been bummed but thatâs about it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2023 19:24:19 GMT
if anyone on here is bored please go and have a look on bartons twitter page he's fully lost the plot ![(lol)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/lvpvZ64EmrkLcuVniUmo.gif)  Whatâs he done this time? Is his wife in a safe space?
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 7, 2023 19:29:17 GMT
Well this thread hasn't half had me chuckling this evening đ
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 7, 2023 19:33:43 GMT
Well this thread hasn't half had me chuckling this evening đ Pisser isnât it mate. Rinse and repeat
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2023 19:35:15 GMT
I have no issue with women doing punditry on men's football.
As long as they're fit.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 7, 2023 19:36:48 GMT
Well this thread hasn't half had me chuckling this evening đ Pisser isnât it mate. Rinse and repeat Handbags at ten paces Badge đ
This thread needs Big Nige to come out of the jungle and become the voice of reason.
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 7, 2023 19:44:14 GMT
He should be free to his opinion without fear of it affecting his career. He was clumsy in what he was saying but he is only saying what many donât have the balls to. Womens football is a different game and should be a completely different entity. Womens commentary on menâs football however is different and a matter of taste. Media meddling into the norms of the menâs game is the problem here. Give it 5 - 10years before we see Women included in menâs teams. what is meddling? Why would women be included in men's teams? Most people 'have the balls' to say stuff like this, it's just nonsense though so the vast majority think it's a rubbish opinion. Meddling is unnecessarily shoe-horning of Women into every aspect of the manâs game, Officials, medics, commentators. You canât listen to menâs Football on the radio without hearing about the womenâs football news. You canât read results or fixtures on certain websites without scrolling past womenâs football. Keep it separate. Iâm not interested in Womenâs Football or Womenâs opinions on menâs Football. Women playing in the menâs game will eventually happen. Probably at the lower professional level first. Itâs the natural progression.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Dec 7, 2023 20:00:22 GMT
what is meddling? Why would women be included in men's teams? Most people 'have the balls' to say stuff like this, it's just nonsense though so the vast majority think it's a rubbish opinion. Meddling is unnecessarily shoe-horning of Women into every aspect of the manâs game, Officials, medics, commentators. You canât listen to menâs Football on the radio without hearing about the womenâs football news. You canât read results or fixtures on certain websites without scrolling past womenâs football. Keep it separate. Iâm not interested in Womenâs Football or Womenâs opinions on menâs Football. Women playing in the menâs game will eventually happen. Probably at the lower professional level first. Itâs the natural progression. Mixed football beyond social or charity ganes will never happen. That's just paranoia. As for the other aspects how would you propose to accommodate those who are perfectly happy for women who are good at what they do to commentate, officiate, provide medical advice or business acumen? Perhaps broadcasters could provide alternative commentaries for those who wish to live in the 1950's while grounds should have at least one segregated stand.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Dec 7, 2023 20:18:08 GMT
My opinion on the matter for what it's worth, you either like the pundits or you don't regardless. Some of the women are great, some are dreadful. Some of the blokes are great, some are dreadful. Then of course you have "to be fair" Clinton Morrison!! I have to have the remote in my hand with my thumb hovering over the mute button. I don't mind Clinton. Pleasantly annoying is how I find him. Agree with your other comments though. Some female pundits are very good and know far more about the game than I do. But I do find some of the female commentators hard work though as they seem to deepen their voice a lot which is just odd. Maybe its the pressure to appear manly in a male dominated area? One of the constant complaints about female commentators is that their high pitched voices 'sound annoying', particularly at excitable moments where their voices can go a bit screechy. So I suspect that's an attempt to tone down their high tones and counter that criticism.
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Post by chad on Dec 7, 2023 20:18:24 GMT
He's stating what the vast majority are thinking though (regarding women pundits). Old fashioned? maybe but Id put money on Sky Soccer Saturday's viewing figures decreasing since they ceased being old fashioned. I agree with him. I switch off now when the pundits come on. And women commentators just spoil a game
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Post by hoppo96 on Dec 7, 2023 20:29:07 GMT
Reading some of these responses makes me fear about what some people are like behind closed doors with their female loved ones...
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 7, 2023 20:29:43 GMT
I don't mind Clinton. Pleasantly annoying is how I find him. Agree with your other comments though. Some female pundits are very good and know far more about the game than I do. But I do find some of the female commentators hard work though as they seem to deepen their voice a lot which is just odd. Maybe its the pressure to appear manly in a male dominated area? One of the constant complaints about female commentators is that their high pitched voices 'sound annoying', particularly at excitable moments where their voices can go a bit screechy. So I suspect that's an attempt to tone down their high tones and counter that criticism. Good point. I remember now. Think I prefer the screeching than this uber butch lesbo act đ
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Dec 7, 2023 20:38:59 GMT
Reading some of these responses makes me fear about what some people are like behind closed doors with their female loved ones... The sky must be the limit for some daughters out there "Don't you go getting any daft ideas about making it in a man's world - nowt wrong with working as a barmaid until you start knocking me out some grandsons"
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 7, 2023 20:45:35 GMT
I know Stoke is slow to keep up to date and embrace the modern world but this thread takes the biscuit. Why cant people just accept change, not get angry and move with the times? Women are allowed out of the kitchen you know. Embarrassing to say the least.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 7, 2023 21:23:32 GMT
Is the issue that women haven't played "elite men's football" so shouldn't be able to comment? Where do you draw the line, should Barton be able to comment on Champions League football as he never played in it, or international football because he played 11 minutes for England and touched the ball 3 times? Should Clive Tyldersley be doing commentary, should Jeff Sterling have been presenting Soccer Saturday? Just made the exact same point, mate. Itâs stupidity if weâre being kind. Itâs sexist if weâre being honest. Presumably people who think women shouldn't be commenting on men's football, also think women shouldn't be allowed to attend men's games? Otherwise why shouldn't women be part of the media in the sport. If women make up part of the audience, surely a voice that represents that perspective is perfectly reasonable and simply encourages other women to follow the sport? I noticed my Mum only started watching football in the last 2-3 years after decades of contempt, maybe its because she relates to the commentary teams moreso these days? I'll ask her!
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Post by hoppo96 on Dec 7, 2023 22:31:28 GMT
Reading some of these responses makes me fear about what some people are like behind closed doors with their female loved ones... The sky must be the limit for some daughters out there "Don't you go getting any daft ideas about making it in a man's world - nowt wrong with working as a barmaid until you start knocking me out some grandsons" wonder if their daughters end up good enough at football to make it professionally, and they'll probably annoyed it's not their son instead who's good at it.
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 7, 2023 22:33:40 GMT
Meddling is unnecessarily shoe-horning of Women into every aspect of the manâs game, Officials, medics, commentators. You canât listen to menâs Football on the radio without hearing about the womenâs football news. You canât read results or fixtures on certain websites without scrolling past womenâs football. Keep it separate. Iâm not interested in Womenâs Football or Womenâs opinions on menâs Football. Women playing in the menâs game will eventually happen. Probably at the lower professional level first. Itâs the natural progression. Mixed football beyond social or charity ganes will never happen. That's just paranoia. As for the other aspects how would you propose to accommodate those who are perfectly happy for women who are good at what they do to commentate, officiate, provide medical advice or business acumen? Perhaps broadcasters could provide alternative commentaries for those who wish to live in the 1950's while grounds should have at least one segregated stand. Quite ironic that someone who suggests there is Mysoginistic undertones in anyone being against the feminisation of the menâs sport has a username - âSeymour Beaver.â Hilarious Fella, Keep up the good work đ
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Post by kaney78 on Dec 7, 2023 23:08:09 GMT
Laura Woods is excellent, this issue is when you start putting people like Alex Scott on whose truly awful. That said there are some shockers on the mens side too. Alex Scott is fantastic to be honest. Does the groundwork and brings more research to the table than most pundits. I've always quite like Alex Scott as well as a pundit
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 7, 2023 23:45:56 GMT
Reading some of these responses makes me fear about what some people are like behind closed doors with their female loved ones... My female loved one is quite happy behind the closed door under the stairs! She appreciates your concern though! đ A good pundit is someone who provides useful insight into what youâre watchingâŚ. Emma Hayes good, Eniola Aluko not. Gary Neville good, Garth Crooks not. Do you only like white commentators? đđ
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Post by whatsashig on Dec 8, 2023 0:07:06 GMT
On topic, but of theme! A comical point in a game when we was in the top tear, Iâm sat in the south stand and JB is preparing to take a corner just in that what is now score board end, quite consciously he prepares the the ball as he bends down with a knowing look at the home fans knowing we are going bay for blood if he dunt put ball on the line, so he doesnât, hilarious moment. Just gets to the point now where all corners are taken with 0.000001 mm of ball are on quarter cirtle, we all need stop being precious really and crack on with the game.
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Post by independent on Dec 8, 2023 0:07:57 GMT
He should be free to his opinion without fear of it affecting his career. He was clumsy in what he was saying but he is only saying what many donât have the balls to. Womens football is a different game and should be a completely different entity. Womens commentary on menâs football however is different and a matter of taste. Media meddling into the norms of the menâs game is the problem here. Give it 5 - 10years before we see Women included in menâs teams.Only if the WSL goes belly up, which is very unlikely now that everyone seems to accept that the women's game is entitled to as much of the men's game's money as they require/desire.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 8, 2023 0:12:37 GMT
Perhaps the options to give people a choice in relation to commentary using the red button
1- all male commentary 2- Mixed commentary 3- Female commentary
Then you could please everyone. The figures would be very interesting and because your choice would be anonymous it would give sky / bbc a good idea of what the majority want.
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