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Post by oggyoggy on Jun 22, 2024 7:24:31 GMT
The West needs to set up its economy so we never need to trade with the likes of China and Russia again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2024 22:32:27 GMT
The West needs to set up its economy so we never need to trade with the likes of China and Russia again. So, post World War 3 then? Imagine the conversation that a politician would try to have with the public: MP: “We don’t want to be reliant on Russia or China. We want the UK to thrive on its own”. Public: “Yeah, we love it!”. MP: “So, we are going to raise taxes to increase investment in new factories”. Public: “oh, erm, will we get better paid jobs at least?” MP: “well, jobs won’t come around for a while as we need to build. Then of course, we have to incentivize business and at some point, robots will be cheaper”. Public: “right, so in the meantime, we could just buy what we need from….” MP: “well, yes. However, we are going to tariff the crap out of it all. Of course, tariffs are meant to be against a country but they are really just paid for by the consumer”. Public: “how long will it take to learn Mandarin?”.
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Post by xchpotter on Jun 23, 2024 18:48:22 GMT
Would indeed be scary. The only thing is to hope that their military hardware is made to the same standards as the rest of the crap they manufacture that people can’t get enough of down the pound shop.
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Post by wannabee on Jun 23, 2024 19:08:56 GMT
They take Parliamentary Debate seriously in Taiwan
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jun 23, 2024 19:20:15 GMT
It will happen likely within the next 5 years. There is a very unstable feel about the world at the moment Indeed. What will be the straw that breaks the camels back to plunge us into a world wide conflict?
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Post by thisisouryear on Jun 23, 2024 19:43:21 GMT
It will happen likely within the next 5 years. There is a very unstable feel about the world at the moment Indeed. What will be the straw that breaks the camels back to plunge us into a world wide conflict? Trump becoming President
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 23, 2024 20:01:51 GMT
Indeed. What will be the straw that breaks the camels back to plunge us into a world wide conflict? Trump becoming President And what can prevent it ?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 23, 2024 20:15:35 GMT
Indeed. What will be the straw that breaks the camels back to plunge us into a world wide conflict? Trump becoming President We've heard all this shit before. The last time The Don became President we had non-stop fear-mongering about how WWIII was going to start at any moment, instead what we got was China got put in their box, Russia got put in their box, he refused to start a war with Iran, went & held an historic meeting with North Korea's leader & got the Jews & Muslims to start normalising ties. Then Creepy Joe became President, China rapidly expanded their forces, Russian tanks couldn't roll into Ukraine fast enough, North Korea started firing test missiles all over the shop, and the Jews & Muslims went back to blowing each other to pieces.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2024 20:16:32 GMT
We've heard all this shit before. The last time The Don became President we had non-stop fear-mongering about how WWIII was going to start at any moment, instead what we got was China got put in their box, Russia got put in their box, he refused to start a war with Iran, went & held an historic meeting with North Korea's leader & got the Jews & Muslims to start normalising ties. Then Creepy Joe became President, China rapidly expanded their forces, Russian tanks couldn't roll into Ukraine fast enough, North Korea started firing test missiles all over the shop, and the Jews & Muslims went back to blowing each other to pieces. Spot on
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Post by thisisouryear on Jun 23, 2024 20:29:12 GMT
And what can prevent it ? A more stable US and Europe is what we need. We need to start building bridges and realised who our friends are quickly because it isn't Russia and China who are becoming more emboldened. Both would wipe us out if they had half a chance. People like Farage and Trump are doing their bit to destabilise the world as they are dividing people with their selfish ideologies which are gathering momentum. Russia are building alliances and building for a wider conflict whilst Europe and the US is fracturing. Trump will likely pull out of Ukraine and he would also be very reluctant to defend their allies. He may even pull the US out of NATO.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 23, 2024 20:44:32 GMT
And what can prevent it ? A more stable US and Europe is what we need. We need to start building bridges and realised who our friends are quickly because it isn't Russia and China who are becoming more emboldened. Both would wipe us out if they had half a chance. People like Farage and Trump are doing their bit to destabilise the world as they are dividing people with their selfish ideologies which are gathering momentum. Russia are building alliances and building for a wider conflict whilst Europe and the US is fracturing. Trump will likely pull out of Ukraine and he would also be very reluctant to defend their allies. He may even pull the US out of NATO. Gloomy outlook then may as well pack up now then. Interestingly I remember reading similar depressing posts of armageddon during covid. I guess there’s always hope.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jun 23, 2024 20:45:47 GMT
We've heard all this shit before. The last time The Don became President we had non-stop fear-mongering about how WWIII was going to start at any moment, instead what we got was China got put in their box, Russia got put in their box, he refused to start a war with Iran, went & held an historic meeting with North Korea's leader & got the Jews & Muslims to start normalising ties. Then Creepy Joe became President, China rapidly expanded their forces, Russian tanks couldn't roll into Ukraine fast enough, North Korea started firing test missiles all over the shop, and the Jews & Muslims went back to blowing each other to pieces. WWIII has possibly already started. It was because of COVID Putin seized his opportunity. Everyone's economies were taking huge hits and Putin probably thought Ukraine wouldn't get as much support so he had a free hit. Putin isn't scared of Trump, China aren't scared of Trump, he's ideal for them, he destabilises his country and his allies. Being passive when it comes to war will only make a bigger war more likely. Biden was only in power for a few weeks before Putin attacked Ukraine, the planning would have been done whilst Trump was President. A Trump victory will give Russia victory over Ukraine, then the war will spread further into Europe, Trump will turn his back on his allies because he only cares for himself. If Europe loses the war against Russia and China then the US will quickly find themselves isolated
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 23, 2024 21:00:08 GMT
We've heard all this shit before. The last time The Don became President we had non-stop fear-mongering about how WWIII was going to start at any moment, instead what we got was China got put in their box, Russia got put in their box, he refused to start a war with Iran, went & held an historic meeting with North Korea's leader & got the Jews & Muslims to start normalising ties. Then Creepy Joe became President, China rapidly expanded their forces, Russian tanks couldn't roll into Ukraine fast enough, North Korea started firing test missiles all over the shop, and the Jews & Muslims went back to blowing each other to pieces. WWIII has possibly already started. It was because of COVID Putin seized his opportunity. Everyone's economies were taking huge hits and Putin probably thought Ukraine wouldn't get as much support so he had a free hit. Putin isn't scared of Trump, China aren't scared of Trump, he's ideal for them, he destabilises his country and his allies. Being passive when it comes to war will only make a bigger war more likely. Biden was only in power for a few weeks before Putin attacked Ukraine, the planning would have been done whilst Trump was President. A Trump victory will give Russia victory over Ukraine, then the war will spread further into Europe, Trump will turn his back on his allies because he only cares for himself. If Europe loses the war against Russia and China then the US will quickly find themselves isolated So China & Russia did nothing during The Don's Presidency 'cos they "Aren't scared of him", but as soon as he's gone & Creepy Joe is in charge they suddenly go & do as they please, but somehow it's all The Don's fault? The Don also told numerous NATO countries they need to up their spending incase Russia/China ever did try anything, he also told Germany in particular to stop being so reliant on Russian energy (All things you lot derided him for, yet somehow now support while Creepy Joe is in charge) And this is somehow him abandoning his allies? You also think Russia is going to waltz its way across Europe with a massively depleted army when they've struggled so badly to defeat Ukraine who've got mostly ancient weaponry? I'm out of this conversation, I'll let you have the last word.
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