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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 12:03:46 GMT
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Post by BuzzB on Oct 26, 2023 12:03:46 GMT
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 12:06:08 GMT
Post by jokker on Oct 26, 2023 12:06:08 GMT
He could appeal and it might end up as a three month ban. Or he could be a man and accept the penalty, which he deserves.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2023 12:14:48 GMT
He could appeal and it might end up as a three month ban. Or he could be a man and accept the penalty, which he deserves. It's an illness, people like you don't seem to understand this.
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Post by werrington on Oct 26, 2023 12:24:17 GMT
He could appeal and it might end up as a three month ban. Or he could be a man and accept the penalty, which he deserves. It's an illness, people like you don't seem to understand this. I’ll give you 3/1 it’s not an illness
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 12:34:52 GMT
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Post by bingbang on Oct 26, 2023 12:34:52 GMT
Don't see why it's a problem for footballers to gamble. To throw a result you would need all 11 players on board which would never happen. The only thing they could do is back their own performance i.e booking, oh. If they did this a large amount would be picked up as an irregular betting pattern. The only thing I would have as rules is that they can't bet on their own games.
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 26, 2023 12:43:08 GMT
Don't see why it's a problem for footballers to gamble. To throw a result you would need all 11 players on board which would never happen. The only thing they could do is back their own performance i.e booking, oh. If they did this a large amount would be picked up as an irregular betting pattern. The only thing I would have as rules is that they can't bet on their own games. I think that’s what the issue was. Though you do also have things like insider trading. If your friend is a top scorer for a team and you know he’s got a stomach bug, betting against his team that week could do you well. Though how well, I don’t know. It’s not like footballers are struggling for money.
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 13:36:46 GMT
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Post by Silkystoke on Oct 26, 2023 13:36:46 GMT
Throwing games never, in that case most of the Stoke team are gambling..!!!
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 13:40:01 GMT
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Post by lordb on Oct 26, 2023 13:40:01 GMT
Don't see why it's a problem for footballers to gamble. To throw a result you would need all 11 players on board which would never happen. The only thing they could do is back their own performance i.e booking, oh. If they did this a large amount would be picked up as an irregular betting pattern. The only thing I would have as rules is that they can't bet on their own games. No one player can throw a game, the goalkeeper
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 13:54:52 GMT
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 26, 2023 13:54:52 GMT
Don't see why it's a problem for footballers to gamble. To throw a result you would need all 11 players on board which would never happen. The only thing they could do is back their own performance i.e booking, oh. If they did this a large amount would be picked up as an irregular betting pattern. The only thing I would have as rules is that they can't bet on their own games. Surely he could tell his mate to bet that the team he's playing against gets a throw in on say the 50th minute. On the 50th minute he kicks the ball out and gives away a throw in. I think that's the sort of bets where it would be able to be done mate but don't quote me on that one.
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Post by thornestein on Oct 26, 2023 14:05:41 GMT
He could appeal and it might end up as a three month ban. Or he could be a man and accept the penalty, which he deserves. It's an illness, people like you don't seem to understand this. it might be , but he’s broke the rules which he knows , so must except the punishment
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 14:12:23 GMT
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Post by haway on Oct 26, 2023 14:12:23 GMT
He got a yellow card against Aston Villa opening game of the season for timewating when he didn’t come off the pitch. I thought it was suspicious at the time… He could appeal and it might end up as a three month ban. Or he could be a man and accept the penalty, which he deserves. It's an illness, people like you don't seem to understand this. This seems like an easy excuse for footballers to make when they get caught out mind. Can’t be certain either way though of course.
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 14:19:50 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Oct 26, 2023 14:19:50 GMT
They have fabulous lifestyles earn eye watering amounts and get to play the greatest game on Earth at the highest level.
Just a knob.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2023 14:39:41 GMT
They have fabulous lifestyles earn eye watering amounts and get to play the greatest game on Earth at the highest level. Just a knob. Just a human.
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 14:45:50 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Oct 26, 2023 14:45:50 GMT
They have fabulous lifestyles earn eye watering amounts and get to play the greatest game on Earth at the highest level. Just a knob. Just a human. He can take his punishment the same way, he knew the rules.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2023 14:50:24 GMT
He can take his punishment the same way, he knew the rules. I'm not arguing that point, mate. He did know the rules and will have to take his punishment, however harsh I think it might be. What I did take umbrage with is your assessment that he's a knob. You ever make any mistakes when you were younger mate? Or are you one of those whiter than white folks who live in an ivory Tower and never do anything wrong?
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Post by Northy on Oct 26, 2023 14:55:50 GMT
Newcastle - Oh dear, what a shame, never mind
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 14:59:19 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Oct 26, 2023 14:59:19 GMT
He can take his punishment the same way, he knew the rules. I'm not arguing that point, mate. He did know the rules and will have to take his punishment, however harsh I think it might be. What I did take umbrage with is your assessment that he's a knob. You ever make any mistakes when you were younger mate? Or are you one of those whiter than white folks who live in an ivory Tower and never do anything wrong? On the contrary I have done some knobish things I'm not proud of, if someone had said "you knob" I would have probably gone "yeah you're right".
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 15:02:17 GMT
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Post by bingbang on Oct 26, 2023 15:02:17 GMT
He got a yellow card against Aston Villa opening game of the season for timewating when he didn’t come off the pitch. I thought it was suspicious at the time… It's an illness, people like you don't seem to understand this. This seems like an easy excuse for footballers to make when they get caught out mind. Can’t be certain either way though of course. I get what you are saying but he would only ever win very small amounts, if he wagered say 20k it would flag up as being suspicious, same with any individual bet of large amounts.
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 15:14:50 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 26, 2023 15:14:50 GMT
Newcastle - Oh dear, what a shame, never mind It won’t affect Newcastle, will it? It’s only the Italian board.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Oct 26, 2023 15:18:16 GMT
He'll bet he's gutted at the news.
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 15:20:24 GMT
Post by Northy on Oct 26, 2023 15:20:24 GMT
Newcastle - Oh dear, what a shame, never mind It won’t affect Newcastle, will it? It’s only the Italian board. I thought it does: - 'Newcastle have shown Tonali great support' Speaking before Tonali's ban was announced, former Newcastle striker Alan Shearer told BBC Radio 5 Live it will be "really difficult" for Tonali to remain living in England while he is banned from playing.
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 15:25:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2023 15:25:52 GMT
I'm not arguing that point, mate. He did know the rules and will have to take his punishment, however harsh I think it might be. What I did take umbrage with is your assessment that he's a knob. You ever make any mistakes when you were younger mate? Or are you one of those whiter than white folks who live in an ivory Tower and never do anything wrong? On the contrary I have done some knobish things I'm not proud of, if someone had said "you knob" I would have probably gone "yeah you're right". Fair enough
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 15:57:22 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Oct 26, 2023 15:57:22 GMT
He could appeal and it might end up as a three month ban. Or he could be a man and accept the penalty, which he deserves. It's an illness, people like you don't seem to understand this. Being considered an illness doesn't mean it should be immune from any punishment, for something that is clearly outside the laws of the game. He will get a lot of support, he will get considerably more support than most others who are addicted to gambling, and let's hope that is helpful.
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Tonali
Oct 26, 2023 21:55:29 GMT
Post by fca47 on Oct 26, 2023 21:55:29 GMT
Everything people don't want to take responsibiity for is an illness. Like being fat.
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Post by shakermaker on Oct 26, 2023 22:42:17 GMT
It won’t affect Newcastle, will it? It’s only the Italian board. I thought it does: - 'Newcastle have shown Tonali great support' Speaking before Tonali's ban was announced, former Newcastle striker Alan Shearer told BBC Radio 5 Live it will be "really difficult" for Tonali to remain living in England while he is banned from playing. That was £55M well spent then!! AC Milan pulled the wool over Toon’s eyes there.
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Post by hamsta2 on Oct 26, 2023 23:05:50 GMT
It's an illness, people like you don't seem to understand this. it might be , but he’s broke the rules which he knows , so must except the punishment Accept.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 27, 2023 8:11:28 GMT
Don't see why it's a problem for footballers to gamble. To throw a result you would need all 11 players on board which would never happen. The only thing they could do is back their own performance i.e booking, oh. If they did this a large amount would be picked up as an irregular betting pattern. The only thing I would have as rules is that they can't bet on their own games. Surely he could tell his mate to bet that the team he's playing against gets a throw in on say the 50th minute. On the 50th minute he kicks the ball out and gives away a throw in. I think that's the sort of bets where it would be able to be done mate but don't quote me on that one. Maybe the problem is allowing bookies to give odds on stupid random things like throw ins in the 50th minute.
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 27, 2023 8:21:06 GMT
Everything people don't want to take responsibiity for is an illness. Like being fat. You don't really understand addiction do you? I've not got an addictive personality but I've seen a couple of lives ruined by gambling addiction, more than a few careers ruined by booze addiction. All sad cases and all with plenty of culpability on the addicts side. Just to dismiss it as 'not taking responsibility' is a pretty ignorant dismissal in my opinion. Each to their own though.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 27, 2023 8:55:54 GMT
Surely he could tell his mate to bet that the team he's playing against gets a throw in on say the 50th minute. On the 50th minute he kicks the ball out and gives away a throw in. I think that's the sort of bets where it would be able to be done mate but don't quote me on that one. Maybe the problem is allowing bookies to give odds on stupid random things like throw ins in the 50th minute. I agree mate to a degree as I've never been a gambling man myself but then you've got the people who sensibly bet and can you take it away from them? It's a tough one as you can't punish everyone because some people go too far etc.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 27, 2023 9:15:32 GMT
Maybe the problem is allowing bookies to give odds on stupid random things like throw ins in the 50th minute. I agree mate to a degree as I've never been a gambling man myself but then you've got the people who sensibly bet and can you take it away from them? It's a tough one as you can't punish everyone because some people go too far etc. I've no problem with betting. But some of these bets are almost encouraging corruption. Who the hell needs to have a bet on a throw in in the 50th or indeed any minute. Its just a stupid bet to offer.
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