Rate the players v Bristol

[AlbertTatlock]

Travers 8
Rose 4
Wilmot 6
Gooch 6
Hoever 6
Pearson 7
Laurent 6
Johnson 6
Haska 8
Wesley 7
Loris 9 MOM

Subs;
Junior 7
McNally 6
Jun-Hoe 7
Lowe 9

Gouranga.

[thehartshillbadger]

Travers - Looks pretty solid, nothing flash 6
Hoever - An Assist for both teams, bit lazy 5
Rose - Dire 3
Wilmot - Marginally better than Rose 4
Gooch - Keeps getting caught in behind 5
Pearson - Decided to start playing once we’d equalised 6
Laurent - Absolute dog turd again! 2
Johnson - Tried but mostly failed 5
Leris - Battled well, great goal 7
Haksabanovic - Wanted the ball and tidy finish 7
Wesley - Held it up ok but just isn’t mobile enough 6

Tchamadeu - Looks an excellent prospect 7
Burger - Tidy enough, doesn’t like the physical stuff 6
Junho - Has to start next week, looks class 7
Lowe - So Happy for him, put himself about 7
McNally - Did ok 6

[skip]

Sept 30, 2023 16:34:14 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

Travers - Looks pretty solid, nothing flash 6
Hoever - An Assist for both teams, bit lazy 5
Rose - Dire 3
Wilmot - Marginally better than Rose 4
Gooch - Keeps getting caught in behind 5
Pearson - Decided to start playing once we’d equalised 6
Laurent - Absolute dog turd again! 2
Johnson - Tried but mostly failed 5
Leris - Battled well, great goal 7
Haksabanovic - Wanted the ball and tidy finish 7
Wesley - Held it up ok but just isn’t mobile enough 6

Tchamadeu - Looks an excellent prospect 7
Burger - Tidy enough, doesn’t like the physical stuff 6
Junho - Has to start next week, looks class 7
Lowe - So Happy for him, put himself about 7
McNally - Did ok 6

Burger was booked for getting his foot in at spuds height so I'm not sure that's completely fair.

[stokesupporter]

Travers 8 made one or two game savers
Rose 6 just about 6
Wilmot 7 Played rather well, our main CB again
Gooch 7 defended and got forward well
Hoever 6... that back pass was awfull but played much better in the 2nd half
Pearson 7 defensively good, not much help going forward though but thats not his main duty
Laurent 6 was slightly better than in his previois matches, but not on quite good level yet
Johnson 6 quiet today, needed a rest?
Hax 9 *MOTM very good today, even in the 1st half
Wesley 8 lively and strong today... well done!
Leris 8 His best game for us today. there is a good player in him and we saw that today!

Subs;
Junior 8 strong and determined, nothing really went past him!
Burger 7 calm and composed
McNally 6 quite good today
Jun-Hoe 7 was heavily involved in our winning goal and got stuck today. Well done!
Lowe 8 The goal was well taken. I think he's the most promising of our own youngsters, strong and tall too.

[robwahlmann]

Travers 7
Rose 4
Wilmot 5, how many stray passes did he have today!?
Gooch 6
Hoever 5, almost cost us the game with that silly backpass!
Pearson 7
Laurent 5, how many stray passes can you have during a game!?
Johnson 6
Haksa 7
Wesley 6
Loris 6, not too impressed by him, but his goal gave us hope!

Subs;
Junior 7
McNally 6
Jun-Hoe 7
Lowe 7

[andyapotter]

I’d give them all 8 for commitment, effort and composure after the first 15 minutes. A few stand out moments from most throughout the game.

[wearepremierleague]

Travers -7 - Did what he could well
Hoever -6 - terrible mistake. But great for the team equaliser
Rose -2- Hes absolutely terrible. Never seen a defender so frightened in the air.
Wilmot - 3. Was nearly as shit as Rose , but not quite. I fucking hate that shite ball he thinks he’s great at
Gooch - 5- Not great
Pearson -6- not his best game at all but saved our arses twice
Laurent -4 - final ball was terrible a few times. Doesn’t affect the game enough
Johnson -5 - Probably his worst game for us
Leris -7 - great goal, does well for the second too. He’s very lightweight though
Wesley-3- He doesn’t do anything at all.
Haks- 7- felt a bit sorry for him at times , he’s got something though. Think he may be better in the middle in games we can dominate.

Tcham- 7- looked good and strong despite being played on the wrong side
Bae 7- did great for the goal - strong and clever
McNally -7, won more in his time on the pitch than Rose did all game
Lowe- 8, buzzing for the lad , had to be there. That’s what a striker should be doing
Burger- 7, did well , much better on the ball than those who started.

[wearepremierleague]

Travers -7 - Did what he could well
Hoever -6 - terrible mistake. But great for the team equaliser
Rose -2- Hes absolutely terrible. Never seen a defender so frightened in the air.
Wilmot - 3. Was nearly as shit as Rose , but not quite. I fucking hate that shite ball he thinks he’s great at
Gooch - 5- Not great
Pearson -6- not his best game at all but saved our arses twice
Laurent -4 - final ball was terrible a few times. Doesn’t affect the game enough
Johnson -5 - Probably his worst game for us
Leris -7 - great goal, does well for the second too. He’s very lightweight though
Wesley-3- He doesn’t do anything at all.
Haks- 7- felt a bit sorry for him at times , he’s got something though. Think he may be better in the middle in games we can dominate.

Tcham- 7- looked good and strong despite being played on the wrong side
Bae 7- did great for the goal - strong and clever
McNally -7, won more in his time on the pitch than Rose did all game
Lowe- 8, buzzing for the lad , had to be there. That’s what a striker should be doing
Burger- 7, did well , much better on the ball than those who started.

[apb1]

Travers 7 looked good

Gooch 6 not as impactful going forward (sub Junior 7 I like him)
Wilmot 6 he at least defended ok
Rose 4 oh dear (McNally 7 good as they turned the screw)
Hoever 5 practically an own goal and assist not enough to cancel it

Pearson 7 some crucial moments
Laurent 5 poor but did the assist assist for equaliser
Johnson 5 was pants today

Hak 7 was lively and good goal
Wesley 6 not bad
Leris 7 started the comeback and was busy

Bae 7 was ace
Lowe 7 ditto
Burger 6 good

[HarryTheHat]

Travers 7.5
Rose 4
Scapegoat 6
Gooch 6
Hoever 6
Pearson 7
Laurent 5.5
Johnson 5.5
Haksabanovic 7.5
Wesley 6
Leris 6.5

Subs

Junior 8
McNally 6
Junho 6.5
Lowe 7.5
Burger 6.5

[owdestokie2]

There appears to be a consensus of opinion that both Rose and McNally have yet to demonstrate any form of consistency or quality, perhaps time will confirm those opinions are correct or incorrect.

Perhaps because of the perceived inconsistency/lack of quality by either or both that’s why Ben Wilmot’s own game may be being adversely affected. Just a thought!!

[samuel32]

Sept 30, 2023 19:28:01 GMT owdestokie2 said:

There appears to be a consensus of opinion that both Rose and McNally have yet to demonstrate any form of consistency or quality, perhaps time will confirm those opinions are correct or incorrect.

Perhaps because of the perceived inconsistency/lack of quality by either or both that’s why Ben Wilmot’s own game may be being adversely affected. Just a thought!!

Consensus is that Rose was bad today. McNally did well. I don't think fans have complety lost faith in Wilmot.

[boskampsflaps]

Sept 30, 2023 16:34:14 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

Travers - Looks pretty solid, nothing flash 6
Hoever - An Assist for both teams, bit lazy 5
Rose - Dire 3
Wilmot - Marginally better than Rose 4
Gooch - Keeps getting caught in behind 5
Pearson - Decided to start playing once we’d equalised 6
Laurent - Absolute dog turd again! 2
Johnson - Tried but mostly failed 5
Leris - Battled well, great goal 7
Haksabanovic - Wanted the ball and tidy finish 7
Wesley - Held it up ok but just isn’t mobile enough 6

Tchamadeu - Looks an excellent prospect 7
Burger - Tidy enough, doesn’t like the physical stuff 6
Junho - Has to start next week, looks class 7
Lowe - So Happy for him, put himself about 7
McNally - Did ok 6

Thought Wesley did better than just okay myself.

[numpty40]

Sept 30, 2023 19:32:22 GMT samuel32 said:

Sept 30, 2023 19:28:01 GMT owdestokie2 said:

There appears to be a consensus of opinion that both Rose and McNally have yet to demonstrate any form of consistency or quality, perhaps time will confirm those opinions are correct or incorrect.

Perhaps because of the perceived inconsistency/lack of quality by either or both that’s why Ben Wilmot’s own game may be being adversely affected. Just a thought!!

Consensus is that Rose was bad today. McNally did well. I don't think fans have complety lost faith in Wilmot.

There's two or three on here who dislike Wilmot and revel in any mistake he makes and even blame him for things completely beyond his control.
It's utterly bizarre considering he was player of the season last season and in a sea of dross this season is still one of our better performers.
These same people get offended when they're accused of being agenda driven but there is no other explanation.

[thehartshillbadger]

Sept 30, 2023 19:42:03 GMT boskampsflaps said:

Sept 30, 2023 16:34:14 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

Travers - Looks pretty solid, nothing flash 6
Hoever - An Assist for both teams, bit lazy 5
Rose - Dire 3
Wilmot - Marginally better than Rose 4
Gooch - Keeps getting caught in behind 5
Pearson - Decided to start playing once we’d equalised 6
Laurent - Absolute dog turd again! 2
Johnson - Tried but mostly failed 5
Leris - Battled well, great goal 7
Haksabanovic - Wanted the ball and tidy finish 7
Wesley - Held it up ok but just isn’t mobile enough 6

Tchamadeu - Looks an excellent prospect 7
Burger - Tidy enough, doesn’t like the physical stuff 6
Junho - Has to start next week, looks class 7
Lowe - So Happy for him, put himself about 7
McNally - Did ok 6

Thought Wesley did better than just okay myself.

Hair splitter😉

[idle]

Travers 7 - Kept us in the game with a couple of nice saves
Hoever 6 - Brain fart and assist, got forward but sometimes forgot his defensive duties
Rose 3 - Our worst player, we looked so much more solid after he went off
Wilmot 6 - It can't be easy when those around you are Rose, Laurent and Gooch
Gooch 5 - Kept getting run past, isn't a LB
Pearson 8 - One of our best today, only one in midfield trying in the first 60
Laurent 4 - All I saw was one single won tackle and one good pass at the end
Johnson 5 - Ok, but didn't have much luck
Leris 7 - His best game for us, added grit and mentality in the first half
Haksabanovic 7 - Nice that he scored, a bit slow in the box waiting for the fullback's runs
Wesley 5 - Not mobile enough for how we play, a few good moments

Tchamadeu 7 - Reminded me of Sterling, only quicker, more adventurous and more raw
Burger 6 - Better than Johnson, moved the ball better
Junho 8 - That assist was delicious, and he's getting used to the tempo. Should start
Lowe 7 - That goal was the best mental this year! Excellent movement
McNally 7 - We looked so much more solid when he came on. Has to start with Wilmot!

[boniek]

Travers 8 motm

Rose 4
Wilmot 5
Gooch 6
Hoever 4

Pearson 7
Laurent 5
Johnson 6

Haksabanovic 7
Wesley 6
Loris 8
————————————
Junior 8
Burger 6
McNally 6
Jun-Ho 7
Lowe 7

Defence looked fragile all game - again. It would have ended in another loss if it weren’t for some great moments by Travers and Pearson. Hoever has some qualities but defensively he is a liability, all this game and on numerous occasions before.

[thehartshillbadger]

Sept 30, 2023 20:01:53 GMT idle said:

Travers 7 - Kept us in the game with a couple of nice saves
Hoever 6 - Brain fart and assist, got forward but sometimes forgot his defensive duties
Rose 3 - Our worst player, we looked so much more solid after he went off
Wilmot 6 - It can't be easy when those around you are Rose, Laurent and Gooch
Gooch 5 - Kept getting run past, isn't a LB
Pearson 8 - One of our best today, only one in midfield trying in the first 60
Laurent 4 - All I saw was one single won tackle and one good pass at the end
Johnson 5 - Ok, but didn't have much luck
Leris 7 - His best game for us, added grit and mentality in the first half
Haksabanovic 7 - Nice that he scored, a bit slow in the box waiting for the fullback's runs
Wesley 5 - Not mobile enough for how we play, a few good moments

Tchamadeu 7 - Reminded me of Sterling, only quicker, more adventurous and more raw
Burger 6 - Better than Johnson, moved the ball better
Junho 8 - That assist was delicious, and he's getting used to the tempo. Should start
Lowe 7 - That goal was the best mental this year! Excellent movement
McNally 7 - We looked so much more solid when he came on. Has to start with Wilmot!

Decent analysis, similar to mine obviously😉

[lordb]

Thought Wes has a good game myself

[thehartshillbadger]

Sept 30, 2023 20:07:52 GMT lordb said:

Thought Wes has a good game myself

He’s not going to score goals though is he?
He’s fine played into feet and generally uses the ball well but we need a goal scorer and we’re not going to have one all season. Again

[lordb]

Sept 30, 2023 20:11:59 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

Sept 30, 2023 20:07:52 GMT lordb said:

Thought Wes has a good game myself

He’s not going to score goals though is he?
He’s fine played into feet and generally uses the ball well but we need a goal scorer and we’re not going to have one all season. Again

No he's not to score many however everything else was decent enough today

He should be the foil for your Mark Stein goal machine in a 442

[thehartshillbadger]

Sept 30, 2023 20:13:31 GMT lordb said:

Sept 30, 2023 20:11:59 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

He’s not going to score goals though is he?
He’s fine played into feet and generally uses the ball well but we need a goal scorer and we’re not going to have one all season. Again

No he's not to score many however everything else was decent enough today

He should be the foil for your Mark Stein goal machine in a 442

Do you think we could bring 442 back to life? I don’t think so.
I may be being a bit romantic but a goal for Lowe today will give him a real confidence boost. Does Neil dare start him in the next home game?
I’d like to see it I think

[maine]

Travers 8
Rose 7
Wilmot 6
Gooch 7
Hoever 7
Pearson 8
Laurent 6
Johnson 7
Haska 7
Wesley
Loris6

Subs;
Junior 7
McNally 6
Jun-Hoe 7
Lowe 7

[lordb]

Sept 30, 2023 20:15:21 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

Sept 30, 2023 20:13:31 GMT lordb said:

No he's not to score many however everything else was decent enough today

He should be the foil for your Mark Stein goal machine in a 442

Do you think we could bring 442 back to life? I don’t think so.
I may be being a bit romantic but a goal for Lowe today will give him a real confidence boost. Does Neil dare start him in the next home game?
I’d like to see it I think

Seems to me that some people think 442 is the preserve of dour defensive football, Dyche style
Absolutely doesn't have to be.

Mmaee is probably the best option to play on his own up front but all the others we have need to play in a pair

[thehartshillbadger]

Sept 30, 2023 20:52:10 GMT lordb said:

Sept 30, 2023 20:15:21 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

Do you think we could bring 442 back to life? I don’t think so.
I may be being a bit romantic but a goal for Lowe today will give him a real confidence boost. Does Neil dare start him in the next home game?
I’d like to see it I think

Seems to me that some people think 442 is the preserve of dour defensive football, Dyche style
Absolutely doesn't have to be.

Mmaee is probably the best option to play on his own up front but all the others we have need to play in a pair

I understand that but there’s a reason it isn’t a thing anymore. The midfielders are passengers in that formation unless you want to play a narrow 4 like mad Nath with bombing full backs

[lordb]

Sept 30, 2023 21:02:47 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

Sept 30, 2023 20:52:10 GMT lordb said:

Seems to me that some people think 442 is the preserve of dour defensive football, Dyche style
Absolutely doesn't have to be.

Mmaee is probably the best option to play on his own up front but all the others we have need to play in a pair

I understand that but there’s a reason it isn’t a thing anymore. The midfielders are passengers in that formation unless you want to play a narrow 4 like mad Nath with bombing full backs

Not that extreme no but do like fullbacks working in tandem with the wide player
The main benefit to 442 is it is a good way of allowing players to form partnerships

[thehartshillbadger]

Sept 30, 2023 21:17:13 GMT lordb said:

Sept 30, 2023 21:02:47 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

I understand that but there’s a reason it isn’t a thing anymore. The midfielders are passengers in that formation unless you want to play a narrow 4 like mad Nath with bombing full backs

Not that extreme no but do like fullbacks working in tandem with the wide player
The main benefit to 442 is it is a good way of allowing players to form partnerships

Absolutely but can you imagine that with Laurent and another in midfield? We are shite with 3 in there. Im almost swaying towards 451
Travers

Tchamadeu
McNally
Wilmot
Stevens

Leris
Pearson
Burger
Junho
Vidigal

Lowe

[retrostoke]

Sept 30, 2023 17:32:04 GMT wearepremierleague said:

Travers -7 - Did what he could well
Hoever -6 - terrible mistake. But great for the team equaliser
Rose -2- Hes absolutely terrible. Never seen a defender so frightened in the air.
Wilmot - 3. Was nearly as shit as Rose , but not quite. I fucking hate that shite ball he thinks he’s great at
Gooch - 5- Not great
Pearson -6- not his best game at all but saved our arses twice
Laurent -4 - final ball was terrible a few times. Doesn’t affect the game enough
Johnson -5 - Probably his worst game for us
Leris -7 - great goal, does well for the second too. He’s very lightweight though
Wesley-3- He doesn’t do anything at all.
Haks- 7- felt a bit sorry for him at times , he’s got something though. Think he may be better in the middle in games we can dominate.

Tcham- 7- looked good and strong despite being played on the wrong side
Bae 7- did great for the goal - strong and clever
McNally -7, won more in his time on the pitch than Rose did all game
Lowe- 8, buzzing for the lad , had to be there. That’s what a striker should be doing
Burger- 7, did well , much better on the ball than those who started.

That averages 5 for the starting 11 and yet we won away, scoring 3 😳

[ceejays]

Thought Travers had a very poor match . Ok Hoever pass back is his get out . Had Bonham been in goal and collapsed like that this message board would be awash with criticism. But because we eventually won that has clouded people’s judgement. He was dire . Yes he made some saves but all regulation ones . A five out of ten . He has yet to convince . Another who stays on his line . Over rated . The one thing I did like was he ran the length of the pitch to join the celebration of Lowe goal . Given he’s on loan that was excellent

[Do it for dobing]

Oct 1, 2023 4:55:08 GMT ceejays said:

Thought Travers had a very poor match . Ok Hoever pass back is his get out . Had Bonham been in goal and collapsed like that this message board would be awash with criticism. But because we eventually won that has clouded people’s judgement. He was dire . Yes he made some saves but all regulation ones . A five out of ten . He has yet to convince . Another who stays on his line . Over rated . The one thing I did like was he ran the length of the pitch to join the celebration of Lowe goal . Given he’s on loan that was excellent

Oh dear what a silly analysis