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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Oct 14, 2023 9:57:45 GMT
Chuck in a January window and still I'm looking up the table, this relegation talk is glass half empty defeatist nonsense We're 4th from bottom, don't look like scoring, can't defend set pieces or corners, midfield gets overrun most weeks, manager has no clue regarding his best side, has no clue during in-game management....other than that everything's hunkydory.
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Post by thornestein on Oct 14, 2023 10:05:42 GMT
people said the same about MoN tbf , look what happened there Exactly my point. He wasn’t sacked early in the season he was sacked after 5 games
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Post by independent on Oct 14, 2023 12:09:06 GMT
Betvictor predict we will finish 16th with 59pts. They don't say anything about who the manager will be. AN only needs 49pts. From his remaining 35 games, or playoff form.So expect good results to begin very shortly.
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Post by thornestein on Oct 14, 2023 13:04:46 GMT
Betvictor predict we will finish 16th with 59pts. They don't say anything about who the manager will be. AN only needs 49pts. From his remaining 35 games, or playoff form.So expect good results to begin very shortly. wow when it put like that it’s quite alarming considering his ppg over the last 12 months
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 14, 2023 13:38:47 GMT
You think our 10 injured players all get into the team if fit? I'd say 4 (5 at a push). 4 strikers would make a difference. Campbell, Vidigal, Mmaee, Tezgel. A player who has scored once v Rotherham in the cup A player who has never scored at this level and rarely played . A player who hasn't been performing Vidigal, yes Injured players are always the answer when a team not performing I guess
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 14, 2023 14:23:37 GMT
Chuck in a January window and still I'm looking up the table, this relegation talk is glass half empty defeatist nonsense We're 4th from bottom, don't look like scoring, can't defend set pieces or corners, midfield gets overrun most weeks, manager has no clue regarding his best side, has no clue during in-game management....other than that everything's hunkydory. The manager has had 17 new players in he's bound to be looking for his best team in the first quarter of the season, this hasn't been helped by multiple injuries early season. I think we've been creating chances and not sticking them away. Once we settle and have the absentees back for selection I think we'll be a decent outfit, as decent as can be expected from the first stage of a full rebuild anyway
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Post by thornestein on Oct 14, 2023 14:27:25 GMT
We're 4th from bottom, don't look like scoring, can't defend set pieces or corners, midfield gets overrun most weeks, manager has no clue regarding his best side, has no clue during in-game management....other than that everything's hunkydory. The manager has had 17 new players in he's bound to be looking for his best team in the first quarter of the season, this hasn't been helped by multiple injuries early season. I think we've been creating chances and not sticking them away. Once we settle and have the absentees back for selection I think we'll be a decent outfit, as decent as can be expected from the first stage of a full rebuild anyway stay off the drugs and stop repeating your bullshit excuses
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 14, 2023 14:28:32 GMT
The manager has had 17 new players in he's bound to be looking for his best team in the first quarter of the season, this hasn't been helped by multiple injuries early season. I think we've been creating chances and not sticking them away. Once we settle and have the absentees back for selection I think we'll be a decent outfit, as decent as can be expected from the first stage of a full rebuild anyway stay off the drugs and stop repeating your bullshit excuses They're not excuses, they're legitimate reasons.
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Post by thornestein on Oct 14, 2023 14:30:31 GMT
stay off the drugs and stop repeating your bullshit excuses They're not excuses, they're legitimate reasons. bullshit , no manager as ever turned around such shit performances and results as he’s had in 12 months , his time is running out
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 14, 2023 14:33:13 GMT
They're not excuses, they're legitimate reasons. bullshit , no manager as ever turned around such shit performances and results as he’s had in 12 months , his time is running out You don't get an off the shelf hit the ground running, firing on all cylinders team from the word go when you've brought in 17 new players ( half never played English football, probably never even set foot in the country) and a boat load of injuries to contend with. It's as simple as that.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Oct 14, 2023 14:33:32 GMT
Betvictor predict we will finish 16th with 59pts. They don't say anything about who the manager will be. AN only needs 49pts. From his remaining 35 games, or playoff form.So expect good results to begin very shortly. According to Transfer Market his Points Per Game are; Overall - 51 games = 1.19 This season - 11 games = 0.91 Calculating PPG of 1.19 x Remaining games 35 + Existing points 10 = 51.65 ”If” my calculations are correct our league position will be about 16th…………consistency at least from last season Am I wrong? Apologies in advance if creating a false impression.
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Post by thornestein on Oct 14, 2023 14:35:23 GMT
bullshit , no manager as ever turned around such shit performances and results as he’s had in 12 months , his time is running out You don't get an off the shelf hit the ground running, firing on all cylinders team from the word go when you've brought in 17 new players ( half never played English football, probably never even set foot in the country) and a boat load of injuries to contend with. It's as simple as that. you’re going be very disappointed when it doesn’t improve and he’s shown the door , it’s inevitable
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 14, 2023 14:37:36 GMT
You don't get an off the shelf hit the ground running, firing on all cylinders team from the word go when you've brought in 17 new players ( half never played English football, probably never even set foot in the country) and a boat load of injuries to contend with. It's as simple as that. you’re going be very disappointed when it doesn’t improve and he’s shown the door , it’s inevitable We'll see won't we, we need to get players on the pitch it's as simple as that. On the contrary there could be a hell of a lot of red faces. Your first mistake is judging this manager on last seasons results with a squad of players that as a whole were good for nothing. Now you're judging him under the conditions I've mentioned above.
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Post by thornestein on Oct 14, 2023 14:38:39 GMT
Betvictor predict we will finish 16th with 59pts. They don't say anything about who the manager will be. AN only needs 49pts. From his remaining 35 games, or playoff form.So expect good results to begin very shortly. According to Transfer Market his Points Per Game are; Overall - 51 games = 1.19 This season - 11 games = 0.91 Calculating PPG of 1.19 x Remaining games 35 + Existing points 10 = 51.65 ”If” my calculations are correct our league position will be about 16th…………consistency at least from last season Am I wrong? Apologies in advance if creating a false impression. as Neil stated last year , he’s was bought here for promotion, either last season or this , i know for a fact JC is expecting a promotion push , it’s sackable what he’s achieving so far and it needs happen sooner rather than later or it’s another wasted season
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Post by thornestein on Oct 14, 2023 14:40:22 GMT
you’re going be very disappointed when it doesn’t improve and he’s shown the door , it’s inevitable We'll see won't we, we need to get players on the pitch it's as simple as that. On the contrary there could be a hell of a lot of red faces. Your first mistake is judging this manager on last seasons results with a squad of players that as a whole were good for nothing. Now you're judging him under the conditions I've mentioned above. no i’m judging him on his ability that he’s shown here , it’s dismal , and like i said there’s not been a manager that’s ever turned that form around , he’s a failure and it won’t change
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 14, 2023 14:42:28 GMT
We'll see won't we, we need to get players on the pitch it's as simple as that. On the contrary there could be a hell of a lot of red faces. Your first mistake is judging this manager on last seasons results with a squad of players that as a whole were good for nothing. Now you're judging him under the conditions I've mentioned above. no i’m judging him on his ability that he’s shown here , it’s dismal , and like i said there’s not been a manager that’s ever turned that form around , he’s a failure and it won’t change You keep believing this rubbish, I'll judge him when he can pick the players he's signed. There are mitigating circumstances that you refuse to take into.account
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 14, 2023 14:51:07 GMT
you’re going be very disappointed when it doesn’t improve and he’s shown the door , it’s inevitable We'll see won't we, we need to get players on the pitch it's as simple as that. On the contrary there could be a hell of a lot of red faces. Your first mistake is judging this manager on last seasons results with a squad of players that as a whole were good for nothing. Now you're judging him under the conditions I've mentioned above. Basically his performances since he arrived?
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 14, 2023 14:58:29 GMT
We'll see won't we, we need to get players on the pitch it's as simple as that. On the contrary there could be a hell of a lot of red faces. Your first mistake is judging this manager on last seasons results with a squad of players that as a whole were good for nothing. Now you're judging him under the conditions I've mentioned above. Basically his performances since he arrived? Someone else's good for nothing squad and this summers complete rebuild. You've not even seen what he's capable of with his own players after they've settled and can actually play together after acclimatising and without injury. He's signed 2 players that I can say straight away positively that we'll make a very tidy profit on. How many players have we made a profit on since relegation? Not promoted youth players, purchased players
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 14, 2023 14:59:52 GMT
Basically his performances since he arrived? Someone else's good for nothing squad and this summers complete rebuild. You've not even seen what he's capable of with his own players after they've settled and can actually play together after acclimatising and without injury. He's signed 2 players that I can say straight away positively that we'll make a very tidy profit on. How many players have we made a profit on since relegation? Not promoted youth players, purchased players That’s enough now Alex, we get the picture
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 14, 2023 15:01:03 GMT
Someone else's good for nothing squad and this summers complete rebuild. You've not even seen what he's capable of with his own players after they've settled and can actually play together after acclimatising and without injury. He's signed 2 players that I can say straight away positively that we'll make a very tidy profit on. How many players have we made a profit on since relegation? Not promoted youth players, purchased players That’s enough now Alex, we get the picture Easy answer. You clearly don't get it
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Post by thornestein on Oct 14, 2023 15:08:03 GMT
no i’m judging him on his ability that he’s shown here , it’s dismal , and like i said there’s not been a manager that’s ever turned that form around , he’s a failure and it won’t change You keep believing this rubbish, I'll judge him when he can pick the players he's signed. There are mitigating circumstances that you refuse to take into.account like i said keep making excuses , when’s he’s gone then you might wake up
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 14, 2023 15:09:07 GMT
You keep believing this rubbish, I'll judge him when he can pick the players he's signed. There are mitigating circumstances that you refuse to take into.account like i said keep making excuses , when’s he’s gone then you might wake up Legitimate reasons.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 14, 2023 15:12:05 GMT
Exactly my point. He wasn’t sacked early in the season he was sacked after 5 games Technically but the decision was made before the season started, we were sorting out the capture of AN.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 14, 2023 15:15:22 GMT
Basically his performances since he arrived? Someone else's good for nothing squad and this summers complete rebuild. You've not even seen what he's capable of with his own players after they've settled and can actually play together after acclimatising and without injury. He's signed 2 players that I can say straight away positively that we'll make a very tidy profit on. How many players have we made a profit on since relegation? Not promoted youth players, purchased players Vidigal was a player Dublin himself said that he'd been following long before Neil arrived here or Dublin himself for that natter
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Post by thornestein on Oct 14, 2023 15:16:11 GMT
he was sacked after 5 games Technically but the decision was made before the season started, we were sorting out the capture of AN. never heard that before , let’s hope they’re doing similar now
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 14, 2023 15:18:01 GMT
Basically his performances since he arrived? Someone else's good for nothing squad and this summers complete rebuild. You've not even seen what he's capable of with his own players after they've settled and can actually play together after acclimatising and without injury. He's signed 2 players that I can say straight away positively that we'll make a very tidy profit on. How many players have we made a profit on since relegation? Not promoted youth players, purchased players Harry Souttar probably the biggest profit ever
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 14, 2023 15:20:28 GMT
Someone else's good for nothing squad and this summers complete rebuild. You've not even seen what he's capable of with his own players after they've settled and can actually play together after acclimatising and without injury. He's signed 2 players that I can say straight away positively that we'll make a very tidy profit on. How many players have we made a profit on since relegation? Not promoted youth players, purchased players Vidigal was a player Dublin himself said that he'd been following long before Neil arrived here or Dublin himself for that natter Manager has the final say on players incoming. Souttar was a club signing for the youth team
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 14, 2023 15:21:41 GMT
Vidigal was a player Dublin himself said that he'd been following long before Neil arrived here or Dublin himself for that natter Manager has the final say on players incoming. Souttar was a club signing for the youth team We paid 200k for Souttar and he was already playing in the first team for Dundee U
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 14, 2023 15:25:47 GMT
Basically his performances since he arrived? Someone else's good for nothing squad and this summers complete rebuild. You've not even seen what he's capable of with his own players after they've settled and can actually play together after acclimatising and without injury. He's signed 2 players that I can say straight away positively that we'll make a very tidy profit on. How many players have we made a profit on since relegation? Not promoted youth players, purchased players It's interesting that AN's best work has always come with someone else's footballers. When he's built his own squad he's produced a load of mediocrity (Preston) and failure (Norwich) At least he's bucked the trend this time - he failed with MON footballers and he's failing with his own. Poor.
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 14, 2023 15:32:07 GMT
Someone else's good for nothing squad and this summers complete rebuild. You've not even seen what he's capable of with his own players after they've settled and can actually play together after acclimatising and without injury. He's signed 2 players that I can say straight away positively that we'll make a very tidy profit on. How many players have we made a profit on since relegation? Not promoted youth players, purchased players It's interesting that AN's best work has always come with someone else's footballers. When he's built his own squad he's produced a load of mediocrity (Preston) and failure (Norwich) At least he's bucked the trend this time - he failed with MON footballers and he's failing with his own. Poor. You're judging on a newly promoted Premiership team with Norwich and a permanently bottom half to mid table championship club at Preston. He's not failing with his own here though is he, because they've had to acclimatise and now they're injured or are we just going to ignore this in your face fact?
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