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Post by borat on Sept 24, 2023 10:51:03 GMT
Your all doing the same again, negative before a ball is kicked, just like you did v Huddersfield.
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Sept 24, 2023 10:51:25 GMT
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Post by thepottypotter on Sept 24, 2023 10:51:25 GMT
Delap and Gayle will both come on for their respective teams and change the game Yes - Gayle will come on score and own goal for Hull! ;-)
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Sept 24, 2023 10:52:49 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 24, 2023 10:52:49 GMT
Neil isn't doing himself any favours with these team selections. Who would you play then Travers Junior Wilmott Mcnally Gooch Burger Laurent or Thompson Tye Bae Johnson Hacks In a 343 Travers Wilmott Mcnally Rose Hoever Burger Laurent Gooch Tye Hacks Johnson
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Sept 24, 2023 10:57:13 GMT
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Post by pavel on Sept 24, 2023 10:57:13 GMT
It’s not inspiring, Thompson I understand as he’s a natural replacement for Pearson, though I don’t think he’s good enough, especially at home and that’s a problem. Laurent, just why, he’s not a number 10, in fact I don’t know what he is.
Gayle instead of Lowe, just why, what has he done to justify being in the squad, he’s finished.
3 at the back, the default option for many recent managers because they don’t trust the defence, just sort out the defence and do some coaching. It didn’t stop us conceding soft goals against Huddersfield so again why?
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Post by MadridStokie on Sept 24, 2023 10:57:21 GMT
Three shots on target in midweek against one of the worst teams in the division, who were sitting back. "Needs more Thompson". Jesus wept. It needed Thompson because he’s the other holding midfielder we’ve got. Three shots on target is an incredibly disingenuous assessment of our attacking in midweek. Exactly, unfortunately a testament to our lack of composure and confidence in the final 3rd. Hopefully Vidigal is fit enough and can come on and change that if that continues. NOt sure about the defensive errors though, we need to cut those out and we have a lack of cover there.
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Sept 24, 2023 11:01:12 GMT
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Post by headsgoup on Sept 24, 2023 11:01:12 GMT
It needed Thompson because he’s the other holding midfielder we’ve got. Three shots on target is an incredibly disingenuous assessment of our attacking in midweek. Exactly, unfortunately a testament to our lack of composure and confidence in the final 3rd. Hopefully Vidigal is fit enough and can come on and change that if that continues. NOt sure about the defensive errors though, we need to cut those out and we have a lack of cover there. It's an accurate one, though. Football games aren't won with potential chances. Different folks look at things in different ways I suppose. To me, it didn't look like we'd score in a month of Sundays. Well, Wednesdays. And having a midfield with three DMs in it won't help. There's no balance, here. I'd be going Burger, Thompson, Johnson in a 433 or the 2 and middle one in a 4231.
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Sept 24, 2023 11:01:45 GMT
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Sept 24, 2023 11:01:45 GMT
In front of us in the warm up just now, Gooch was on the left with Wilmot on the right in a 4. I was sure it was going to be a negative shit 5 at the back but now I’m not so sure. Which side did Gooch play in midweek? Nevermind I was wrong. Oh well.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 24, 2023 11:12:58 GMT
Exactly, unfortunately a testament to our lack of composure and confidence in the final 3rd. Hopefully Vidigal is fit enough and can come on and change that if that continues. NOt sure about the defensive errors though, we need to cut those out and we have a lack of cover there. It's an accurate one, though. Football games aren't won with potential chances. Different folks look at things in different ways I suppose. To me, it didn't look like we'd score in a month of Sundays. Well, Wednesdays. And having a midfield with three DMs in it won't help. There's no balance, here. I'd be going Burger, Thompson, Johnson in a 433 or the 2 and middle one in a 4231. It isn’t an accurate one if you’re using it as evidence we were negative or didn’t create anything, no.
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Post by towraytek on Sept 24, 2023 11:32:25 GMT
Pathetic
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Sept 24, 2023 11:33:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 11:33:26 GMT
Neil isn't doing himself any favours with these team selections. Who would you play then Fair play if you're happy with this shite
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Post by jeycov on Sept 24, 2023 11:33:53 GMT
What a mess
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Post by TinkerT on Sept 24, 2023 11:56:13 GMT
Any Stoke manager that starts with 3 at the back should be sacked on the spot. 5 at the back, go 2-0 down after being battered in midfield, and takes off a midfielder leaving FIVE at the back for a striker. What a fucking joker, fuck him off, useless.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 24, 2023 13:04:23 GMT
Neil insists on playing 3 at the back despite making us vulnerable at the back every game. None of our 3 central defenders look comfortable in this formation. Didn't we sell Tymon to play 4 at the back!? And why bring in all the wingers and then choose a system without wingers! This isn't impressive at all, Neil!!! The team needs time to gel, yes, but we can't being so naive as we are right now! Play 4 at the back and play with wingers. This SIMPLY ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH!
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Sept 24, 2023 13:10:09 GMT
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 24, 2023 13:10:09 GMT
Neil insists on playing 3 at the back despite making us vulnerable at the back every game. None of our 3 central defenders look comfortable in this formation. Didn't we sell Tymon to play 4 at the back!? And why bring in all the wingers and then choose a system without wingers! This isn't impressive at all, Neil!!! The team needs time to gel, yes, but we can't being so naive as we are right now! Play 4 at the back and play with wingers. This SIMPLY ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH! None of this adds up. What is our strategy here. The transfer strategy and how we want to play (base on selection) seem worlds apart
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Sept 24, 2023 13:22:05 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 24, 2023 13:22:05 GMT
Probably our best attacking display apart from Rotherham in the last game with this line up, given the lack of goals two up top is a must atm. Which says it all doesn’t it? We’ve scored 7 in 7, we aren’t good going forward. We spent a summer recruiting for a 4 at the back with wide players, but he’s resorting to square pegs in round holes within the first ten games. Bar the left back situation where's the square pegs round holes? It's not great and they've dropped a bollock not getting a couple of competent CBs in which is the bigger issue for me, we've got the players to work with going forward but the defenders can't be trusted to the point it doesn't matter what formation we play.
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Sept 24, 2023 13:24:19 GMT
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Post by chad on Sept 24, 2023 13:24:19 GMT
We always end up with a better side after his four subs. So surely he’s picking the wrong side
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2023 13:24:59 GMT
4231
HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES
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Sept 24, 2023 13:25:21 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 24, 2023 13:25:21 GMT
Which says it all doesn’t it? We’ve scored 7 in 7, we aren’t good going forward. We spent a summer recruiting for a 4 at the back with wide players, but he’s resorting to square pegs in round holes within the first ten games. Bar the left back situation where's the square pegs round holes? It's not great and they've dropped a bollock not getting a couple of competent CBs in which is the bigger issue for me, we've got the players to work with going forward but the defenders can't be trusted to the point it doesn't matter what formation we play. So we may as well play a more attacking one then as at least we might get more goals.
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Sept 24, 2023 13:31:07 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 24, 2023 13:31:07 GMT
Bar the left back situation where's the square pegs round holes? It's not great and they've dropped a bollock not getting a couple of competent CBs in which is the bigger issue for me, we've got the players to work with going forward but the defenders can't be trusted to the point it doesn't matter what formation we play. So we may as well play a more attacking one then as at least we might get more goals. I don't think the line up from today isn't attacking. I don't think it would make a difference, we were getting a grip of the game then the defenders had to do something abd as ever they showed how shit they are.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 24, 2023 13:45:45 GMT
So we may as well play a more attacking one then as at least we might get more goals. I don't think the line up from today isn't attacking. I don't think it would make a difference, we were getting a grip of the game then the defenders had to do something abd as ever they showed how shit they are. I think 3 CBs causes more confusion (leaving the defending to each other etc). With 2 it just seems more simple. Add to that no creativity in CM and no proper WB and that’s negative for me. Play Junior and Hoever as our 2 wingbacks and you’d have a better case.
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Sept 24, 2023 13:49:51 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 24, 2023 13:49:51 GMT
I don't think the line up from today isn't attacking. I don't think it would make a difference, we were getting a grip of the game then the defenders had to do something abd as ever they showed how shit they are. I think 3 CBs causes more confusion (leaving the defending to each other etc). With 2 it just seems more simple. Add to that no creativity in CM and no proper WB and that’s negative for me. Play Junior and Hoever as our 2 wingbacks and you’d have a better case. Leaving it to each other hasn't been the issue though, I'd understand if it was, they just haven't done the basics like clearing a ball or winning a header. The wingbacks haven't been the problem, Johnson was our best player in the week not because we were particularly crap but because he actually looked the part, agree about the midfield, Laurent needs dropping, but we need a way to not have an isolated forward so I understand why we've done it. Edit: Hoever deservedly got dropped for me, he was looking all over the place.
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Sept 24, 2023 13:55:13 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 24, 2023 13:55:13 GMT
I think 3 CBs causes more confusion (leaving the defending to each other etc). With 2 it just seems more simple. Add to that no creativity in CM and no proper WB and that’s negative for me. Play Junior and Hoever as our 2 wingbacks and you’d have a better case. Leaving it to each other hasn't been the issue though, I'd understand if it was, they just haven't done the basics like clearing a ball or winning a header. The wingbacks haven't been the problem, Johnson was our best player in the week not because we were particularly crap but because he actually looked the part, agree about the midfield, Laurent needs dropping, but we need a way to not have an isolated forward so I understand why we've done it. Edit: Hoever deservedly got dropped for me, he was looking all over the place. If I could make one change it would be the CM and to bring in someone who can - Pass forwards not back - Dribble - Shoot The 3 today don’t have that in their locker. I never thought I’d hear myself say it but could Baker be the man. His game certainly suits the 3 if ANs happy not going all in with a AM like Bae.
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Sept 24, 2023 13:59:28 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 24, 2023 13:59:28 GMT
Leaving it to each other hasn't been the issue though, I'd understand if it was, they just haven't done the basics like clearing a ball or winning a header. The wingbacks haven't been the problem, Johnson was our best player in the week not because we were particularly crap but because he actually looked the part, agree about the midfield, Laurent needs dropping, but we need a way to not have an isolated forward so I understand why we've done it. Edit: Hoever deservedly got dropped for me, he was looking all over the place. If I could make one change it would be the CM and to bring in someone who can - Pass forwards not back - Dribble - Shoot The 3 today don’t have that in their locker. I never thought I’d hear myself say it but could Baker be the man. His game certainly suits the 3 if ANs happy not going all in with a AM like Bae. Bae for Laurent and drop Wilmot, not sure it would be enough but it would make a bit of a difference at least. I get the thought re Baker but he's the same as Laurent.
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Sept 24, 2023 14:44:36 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 24, 2023 14:44:36 GMT
If I could make one change it would be the CM and to bring in someone who can - Pass forwards not back - Dribble - Shoot The 3 today don’t have that in their locker. I never thought I’d hear myself say it but could Baker be the man. His game certainly suits the 3 if ANs happy not going all in with a AM like Bae. Bae for Laurent and drop Wilmot, not sure it would be enough but it would make a bit of a difference at least. I get the thought re Baker but he's the same as Laurent. Your reaction to the last two McNally and Rose performances is to suggest we drop Wilmot? Laughable…….
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Sept 24, 2023 14:48:55 GMT
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 24, 2023 14:48:55 GMT
Bae for Laurent and drop Wilmot, not sure it would be enough but it would make a bit of a difference at least. I get the thought re Baker but he's the same as Laurent. Your reaction to the McNally and Rose’ last two performances is to suggest drop Wilmot. Laughable……. We can’t afford to drop Wilmot. He’s been poor I agree but he’s at least capable of good performances - least of our problems. Has to be McNally and Wilmot in a 4, Rose wouldn’t even get in my Sunday team.
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