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Post by skip on Dec 12, 2023 0:59:27 GMT
I agree with her 100%. He’s far better suited to a DOF role than the role he was doing here before. Experienced, articulate, and intelligent. But it might be hard for him not to meddle in coaching/football matters. I think it would work better if he wasn’t here before If his job description isn't to be involved in coaching, then it wouldn't be his job. This is precisely what Stoke's pitch facing infrastructure lacks - parameters and clearly identified roles and responsibilities.
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Post by boult on Dec 12, 2023 2:57:09 GMT
I rarely swear but fuck him off.
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Post by s7oke on Dec 12, 2023 4:40:18 GMT
Agrre Richard and Simon K have done brilliantly. And not hepred by the garbage coming form martin and the crap on the pitch they work has ben much undervalued. I think Simon King has been a breath of fresh air. He seems to be getting plenty done behind the scenes without seeking out the limelight. The Open Training Session, several Meet the Player nights, Meet the Manager, and the plans for the Fan Zone have all been very welcome developments. It is just a shame that it is being overshadowed by some of the garbage on the football side. Simon king As you said I couldn’t agree more Fantastic bloke who is getting stuff done great to talk to and genuinely wants to help and listen 👍 And it’s not all about him
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Post by baconburger on Dec 12, 2023 11:06:59 GMT
Can't see him staying,so why is he allowed his input on our next manager? Money. It’s going to take the board to sack him. It will take one more failed manager and potentially relegation before Peter Coates has to admit that his son can’t cut it as a CEO. What has it got to do with him. He’s stepped back in all but title and John is worth far more money than Peter. It’s like you people live in a parallel universe.
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Post by stokiedan17 on Dec 12, 2023 11:19:27 GMT
It’s been 4 months ….
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 12, 2023 11:21:28 GMT
I think Simon King has been a breath of fresh air. He seems to be getting plenty done behind the scenes without seeking out the limelight. The Open Training Session, several Meet the Player nights, Meet the Manager, and the plans for the Fan Zone have all been very welcome developments. It is just a shame that it is being overshadowed by some of the garbage on the football side. Simon king As you said I couldn’t agree more Fantastic bloke who is getting stuff done great to talk to and genuinely wants to help and listen 👍 And it’s not all about him Could not agree more. His appointment feels like a genuine step in the right direction. We just need to sort out the actual football side now! 😅
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 12, 2023 19:42:29 GMT
I've not seen him in the directors' box before but he's sitting there very prominently tonight. Sending a message?
All of the big five are there apart from Richard Smith: John Coates, Simon King, Ricky and Denis Smith.
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Post by thepottypotter on Dec 23, 2023 19:59:10 GMT
How’s Ricky Martins transfer window and the 5 pillars of success gone do we think in hindsight? Here’s the YouTube videos for those that haven’t seen them Ricky Martin transfer window debrief 5 pillars of success Have we seen many recruitment successes? Have we seen many cultural architects in the team? Did the vision board make an impact? Oh and best of all, his influence has increased now AN has been fired. Good luck SS!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 23, 2023 20:04:05 GMT
How he’s survived the abject disaster of receruitment is beyond belief anywhere near the jan window and we are done , he will be the greatest barrier to SS and not slow to throw him under the bus as Neil exit has shown , it’s candidly pathetic
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 20:10:48 GMT
SS has had one training session with this group. The squad doesn’t look fit for purpose right now but maybe SS will find a way to get a tune out of them.
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Post by Gods on Dec 23, 2023 20:18:37 GMT
I wanted him gone, a priority sacking ahead of AN.
Instead R.Martin is now king of all he surveys.
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Post by theoptimist on Dec 23, 2023 20:20:00 GMT
No doubt Ricky will throw Dublin under the bus next.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 23, 2023 20:42:36 GMT
I wanted him gone, a priority sacking ahead of AN. Instead R.Martin is now king of all he surveys. Absolutely spot on I live in hope that the press conference performance where Jc. Let him hog the headlines over everyone else new manager included was actually a moment where he was sctually given enough rope as opposed to cementing his new shd even greater degree of control .
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 23, 2023 20:45:50 GMT
I had a thought about him the other day.
Many of us assumed that Neil brought in his mate as Director of Football because of their Norwich connection. Since then, Neil has gone and Martin seems to be in full control of the Football side of things.
We seem to have gone through a sensible recruitment process for the manager; how did Martin come to take the job? Are we doing him a disservice and he was, in fact, the outstanding candidate?
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Post by stokiedan17 on Dec 23, 2023 20:49:37 GMT
Don’t get bit big hate for him. He’s in charge of moving us from the dark ages in to more modern structure which we look to be doing quite well at.
It’s not even been a year…. And we are already after a new director which means do we start again? Fans don’t want to give anyone 12 months. You don’t just change the entire infrastructure of a football club and expect it to be completed within one transfer window and 6 months of league football
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Post by thepottypotter on Dec 23, 2023 20:57:55 GMT
Don’t get bit big hate for him. He’s in charge of moving us from the dark ages in to more modern structure which we look to be doing quite well at. It’s not even been a year…. And we are already after a new director which means do we start again? Fans don’t want to give anyone 12 months. You don’t just change the entire infrastructure of a football club and expect it to be completed within one transfer window and 6 months of league football I want a restructure but he’s obviously a poor recruit. The summer transfer window was a train wreck. They were obviously winging it with no planning and massive shortages in key areas. From his videos, there is a stink of management speak bullshit all over him. Technical director is an important and needed role, we don’t need Tricky Ricky dragging us down to league one and beyond in the meantime.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 23, 2023 20:58:12 GMT
I think we've assembled a talented squad, obviously not every signing will be a success but the likes Mmaee. Burger, Junior, Bae and Vidigal have all got decent potential. The likes of Pearson, Johnson and Gooch are obviously more AN players but are solid championship players. A decent coach will definitely get a decent tune out of this squad.
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Post by cdf on Dec 23, 2023 21:05:11 GMT
Ultimately, it will be Schumacher that will decide if Livin La Vida Loca been any good with the recruitment. If he's a typical scouser then he will have no issues letting the Coates family know if the players recruited are going to be any good for Stoke or not.
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Post by lordb on Dec 23, 2023 21:31:43 GMT
Just don't why it's a good idea to have anon football person in charge of signing footballers
If we have to have this role surely it has to be someone from a football background?
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Post by Gods on Dec 23, 2023 21:42:07 GMT
Just don't why it's a good idea to have anon football person in charge of signing footballers If we have to have this role surely it has to be someone from a football background? It's some weird shit. R.Martin does not seem to even have his own wiki entry so I know little of his background. I think he was the academy manager at West Ham until they caught up with him. I guess in the end as long as he has John Coates in his back pocket he has license to do whatever the heck he likes. He is even poking around our women's team. Everything he has come in to contact with seems to have gone wrong.
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Post by mickstupp on Dec 23, 2023 21:44:12 GMT
Just don't why it's a good idea to have anon football person in charge of signing footballers If we have to have this role surely it has to be someone from a football background? I’d seriously think about bringing MoN back to fill this role.
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Post by Gods on Dec 23, 2023 21:48:13 GMT
Just don't why it's a good idea to have anon football person in charge of signing footballers If we have to have this role surely it has to be someone from a football background? I’d seriously think about bringing MoN back to fill this role. Whether it's MON or someone else we should at least have someone sensible, that's not too much to ask.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Dec 23, 2023 21:57:06 GMT
Just don't why it's a good idea to have anon football person in charge of signing footballers If we have to have this role surely it has to be someone from a football background? It's some weird shit. R.Martin does not seem to even have his own wiki entry so I know little of his background. I think he was the academy manager at West Ham until they caught up with him. I guess in the end as long as he has John Coates in his back pocket he has license to do whatever the heck he likes. He is even poking around our women's team. Everything he has come in to contact with seems to have gone wrong. What's "some weird shit" is this bizarre obsession you've got with the bloke, it's borderline homoerotic. West Ham didn't catch up with him, that implies he was fired which he wasn't. He left them to become our Technical Director. He hasn't got John Coates in his back pocket, he's an employee of the club. If Coates gets to the point where he feels Martin isn't delivering then he'll get rid just like he did with previous managers, way before Martin was appointed. Having a joined up, consistent approach with every team at the club makes sense. That includes the Women's Team, which has gone Semi-Professional since Martin started to "poke around". That's a sign of progress and one that should be applauded as we try to capitalise on the recent success of the England Women's Team. If you're going to make grand statements like you've repeatedly done on Martin, at least do it based on the facts and present some evidence, rather than the usual made up bollocks. One thing I will say though is that if Schumacher is his appointment and he fails, the next window is a disaster and we do genuinely look like being relegated then he has to take responsibility and be binned.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 23, 2023 21:59:57 GMT
No doubt Ricky will throw Dublin under the bus next. And so he should, Dublin is a total fraud. When I said he wasn't qualified for the role when he got it I got both barrels from everyone on here.
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Post by stokiedan17 on Dec 23, 2023 22:00:49 GMT
Don’t get bit big hate for him. He’s in charge of moving us from the dark ages in to more modern structure which we look to be doing quite well at. It’s not even been a year…. And we are already after a new director which means do we start again? Fans don’t want to give anyone 12 months. You don’t just change the entire infrastructure of a football club and expect it to be completed within one transfer window and 6 months of league football I want a restructure but he’s obviously a poor recruit. The summer transfer window was a train wreck. They were obviously winging it with no planning and massive shortages in key areas. From his videos, there is a stink of management speak bullshit all over him. Technical director is an important and needed role, we don’t need Tricky Ricky dragging us down to league one and beyond in the meantime. This tricky Ricky bollocks does my head in… such school yard bull shit. What has he actually done wrong? We’ve overseen a change in recruitment approach. Brought in to modern times and view where each team independent and everything isn’t down to the manager. Give them all fucking tine
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Post by Gods on Dec 23, 2023 22:01:43 GMT
It's some weird shit. R.Martin does not seem to even have his own wiki entry so I know little of his background. I think he was the academy manager at West Ham until they caught up with him. I guess in the end as long as he has John Coates in his back pocket he has license to do whatever the heck he likes. He is even poking around our women's team. Everything he has come in to contact with seems to have gone wrong. What's "some weird shit" is this bizarre obsession you've got with the bloke, it's borderline homoerotic. West Ham didn't catch up with him, that implies he was fired which he wasn't. He left them to become our Technical Director. He hasn't got John Coates in his back pocket, he's an employee of the club. If Coates gets to the point where he feels Martin isn't delivering then he'll get rid just like he did with previous managers, way before Martin was appointed. Having a joined up, consistent approach with every team at the club makes sense. That includes the Women's Team, which has gone Semi-Professional since Martin started to "poke around". That's a sign of progress and one that should be applauded as we try to capitalise on the recent success of the England Women's Team. If you're going to make grand statements like you've repeatedly done on Martin, at least do it based on the facts and present some evidence, rather than the usual made up bollocks. One thing I will say though is that if Schumacher is his appointment and he fails, the next window is a disaster and we do genuinely look like being relegated then he has to take responsibility and be binned. The reason I am interested in him is that he is running the operation. And it ain't going well. We may or may not stay up. It would be quite a stunt to spend as much as we have and relegate this team but we have a decent shot at it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 22:10:16 GMT
Are we at the point now where maybe we realize that the players we signed in the summer are shit?
I think the new head coach(manager) has an impossible task, owing to the dog shit recruitment we did last summer.
The person who chose our signings, is it Dublin? Surely he must at times look at his counterpart at Plymouth, and feel embarrassed? On a tenth of our budget they're better than us
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 23, 2023 22:11:15 GMT
I want a restructure but he’s obviously a poor recruit. The summer transfer window was a train wreck. They were obviously winging it with no planning and massive shortages in key areas. From his videos, there is a stink of management speak bullshit all over him. Technical director is an important and needed role, we don’t need Tricky Ricky dragging us down to league one and beyond in the meantime. This tricky Ricky bollocks does my head in… such school yard bull shit. What has he actually done wrong? We’ve overseen a change in recruitment approach. Brought in to modern times and view where each team independent and everything isn’t down to the manager. Give them all fucking tine He has overseen 1 The establishment of a culture of failure and apathy 2 The recruitment of a squad of players totally unsuited to this lesgue as evidenced by our league form trajectory and position 3 The destruction of our FFp headroom in the process of that failed recruitment.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 23, 2023 22:11:24 GMT
Just don't why it's a good idea to have anon football person in charge of signing footballers If we have to have this role surely it has to be someone from a football background? It's some weird shit. R.Martin does not seem to even have his own wiki entry so I know little of his background. I think he was the academy manager at West Ham until they caught up with him. I guess in the end as long as he has John Coates in his back pocket he has license to do whatever the heck he likes. He is even poking around our women's team. Everything he has come in to contact with seems to have gone wrong. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ricky-martin/profil/trainer/21263
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 23, 2023 22:14:46 GMT
Dublin amd Martin both Ned. To go asap before they do more damage in January
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