|
Post by LGH87 on Feb 12, 2024 10:01:23 GMT
Richard Hughes at Pompey is the man we need to look at.
Stokie, has worked for the club in a capacity before.
Identified Mousinho as the man to turn Pompey around when the majority would never have even looked at him.
|
|
|
Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 12, 2024 10:14:24 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me if JC doesn't try and bring Dewsnip in here, he brought in Tricky at the request of Neil after all. No chance of Dewsnip ending up here, whilst he was in temporary charge he made a comment in a press conference because he didn’t appreciate some criticism Schumacher had of him. Seems to fall out with quite a lot of people does our Steven.
|
|
|
Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 12, 2024 10:15:29 GMT
Richard Hughes at Pompey is the man we need to look at. Stokie, has worked for the club in a capacity before. Identified Mousinho as the man to turn Pompey around when the majority would never have even looked at him. The thing is mate as things are we could well be trading places with Pompey at the end of this season. Would he jump ship purely for money when they are doing so well? I guess my point is that not everyone is driven by more money. We certainly need to be looking at him though if there's a chance.
|
|
|
Post by silsdenstokie on Feb 12, 2024 11:31:35 GMT
On the one hand Dewsnip may help the current situation
On the other hand you cant have managers choosing their own DOFs….you just end up with a Neil/Martin situation
|
|
|
Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 12, 2024 11:34:05 GMT
Tricky Ricky,just another Arfur Daly,but unlikable.
|
|
|
Post by kjpt140v on Feb 12, 2024 12:05:48 GMT
On the one hand Dewsnip may help the current situation On the other hand you cant have managers choosing their own DOFs….you just end up with a Neil/Martin situation True, managers should be picking their own players.s.
|
|
|
Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 12, 2024 12:14:15 GMT
On the one hand Dewsnip may help the current situation On the other hand you cant have managers choosing their own DOFs….you just end up with a Neil/Martin situation True, managers should be picking their own players.s. In my naive mind it is the club itself who sets the tone. By that I mean they help shape the identity of the club. Off the back of that they employ a director of football who works with the head coach to agree incoming and outgoing players. Then as and when the manager leaves we have a constant role within the club consistently identifying Stoke compatible players. And as a result we know the right type of managers for that system/type of players we have. At the very least it would reduce the chaos with all these crazy mass signings where we hope it all miraculously comes together. The mismanagement over the last 7 or so years is absolutely shocking all things considered.
|
|
|
Post by jontimmis on Feb 12, 2024 12:17:29 GMT
Whilst I agree with lots of comments about getting rid of tricky, it feels to me the horse has well and truly bolted and it’s not going to solve the immediate problems on the pitch? Unless he picks the 11 and the tactics.
This situation along with recruitment has to and I am sure will be sorted post season, but the only thing that matters now is we get 18 points from 15 games.
I don’t care how, that’s all we need and that is the only KPI that matters for the whole of the football club.
Everything else in my opinion (it is just an opinion) is just noise as this is the most important immediate thing.
|
|
|
Post by Pugsley on Feb 12, 2024 12:20:19 GMT
Whilst I agree with lots of comments about getting rid of tricky, it feels to me the horse has well and truly bolted and it’s not going to solve the immediate problems on the pitch? Unless he picks the 11 and the tactics. This situation along with recruitment has to and I am sure will be sorted post season, but the only thing that matters now is we get 18 points from 15 games. I don’t care how, that’s all we need and that is the only KPI that matters for the whole of the football club. Everything else in my opinion (it is just an opinion) is just noise as this is the most important immediate thing. It's not going to solve immediate problems but the DoF will be planning now for next season and seasons beyond that. I don't want a snake oil wide boy salesman doing that for my club. Get him gone along with that fuckwit Dublin..
|
|
|
Post by jontimmis on Feb 12, 2024 12:23:36 GMT
Whilst I agree with lots of comments about getting rid of tricky, it feels to me the horse has well and truly bolted and it’s not going to solve the immediate problems on the pitch? Unless he picks the 11 and the tactics. This situation along with recruitment has to and I am sure will be sorted post season, but the only thing that matters now is we get 18 points from 15 games. I don’t care how, that’s all we need and that is the only KPI that matters for the whole of the football club. Everything else in my opinion (it is just an opinion) is just noise as this is the most important immediate thing. It's not going to solve immediate problems but the DoF will be planning now for next season and seasons beyond that. I don't want a snake oil wide boy salesman doing that for my club. Get him gone along with that fuckwit Dublin.. I agree he and Jared need to go. I’m just saying for the immediate future. Let’s focus on the points and getting results on weds and sat.
|
|
|
Post by Fred Merger on Feb 12, 2024 12:26:17 GMT
The windows shut now. So we are where we are because of him and his inability to do his job correctly. Sack him!
|
|
|
Post by Pugsley on Feb 12, 2024 12:31:01 GMT
It's not going to solve immediate problems but the DoF will be planning now for next season and seasons beyond that. I don't want a snake oil wide boy salesman doing that for my club. Get him gone along with that fuckwit Dublin.. I agree he and Jared need to go. I’m just saying for the immediate future. Let’s focus on the points and getting results on weds and sat. It sounds like there is a toxic atmosphere at the club, both on and on the pitch. Removing these two chancers now might improve things somewhat.
|
|
|
Post by jontimmis on Feb 12, 2024 12:31:54 GMT
I agree he and Jared need to go. I’m just saying for the immediate future. Let’s focus on the points and getting results on weds and sat. It sounds like there is a toxic atmosphere at the club, both on and on the pitch. Removing these two chancers now might improve things somewhat. Well seeing that other post in the Schumacher thread is deeply concerning for everyone.
|
|
|
Post by deeside2 on Feb 12, 2024 12:36:11 GMT
What an absolute shitshow on and off the pitch. Wednesday is going to be toxic isn't it.
League One here we come !
|
|
|
Post by mamathestriker on Feb 12, 2024 12:41:55 GMT
Watching that video at the top of the thread made me cringe then, and even more so now.
He's pulled the wool over JC's eyes, but it seems many on here worked him out early doors.
KPIs, pillars of success, cultural architects my arse. How about players who battle, can pass, shoot and tackle first?
I bet in meetings he's the ultimate blue sky thinker, taking deep dives into problems as things move forward, but ensuring he doesn't eat the elephant whole.
Get him gone NOW. Along with Dublin.
|
|
|
Post by karl on Feb 12, 2024 15:28:20 GMT
I was half expecting today that he would be given the sack for what has happened which is his fault. Also the head of recruitment as that on its own has been a disaster and surely cannot be trusted to make more mistakes in the summer.
|
|
|
Post by skip on Feb 12, 2024 15:36:08 GMT
Get him gone along with that fuckwit Dublin.. I've just had a look through Dublin's LinkedIn profile and whilst his education reads as pretty impressive on the top line to be fair, but I was more interested to learn more about his Level 1 in Player Identification qualification that he lists amongst his attributes. PFSA LEVEL 1 TALENT IDENTIFICATION IN FOOTBALL - CREATED BY EXPERIENCED PREMIER LEAGUE TALENT IDENTIFICATION SPECIALISTS It costs fifty quid, takes roughly 4-6 hours to complete, is undertaken online and is, cough, "a great stepping stone into a career in football." It is the first of twelve qualification available through the PFSA. Just eleven more to go, Jared.
|
|
|
Post by theoptimist on Feb 12, 2024 15:51:29 GMT
Not sure how JC can sack him just days after presenting the united front with him at the fans forum. What a shitshow. The whole thing is an unmitigated disaster from the very top.
|
|
|
Post by kjpt140v on Feb 12, 2024 20:08:29 GMT
True, managers should be picking their own players.s. In my naive mind it is the club itself who sets the tone. By that I mean they help shape the identity of the club. Off the back of that they employ a director of football who works with the head coach to agree incoming and outgoing players. Then as and when the manager leaves we have a constant role within the club consistently identifying Stoke compatible players. And as a result we know the right type of managers for that system/type of players we have. At the very least it would reduce the chaos with all these crazy mass signings where we hope it all miraculously comes together. The mismanagement over the last 7 or so years is absolutely shocking all things considered. I'm not sure of Martin's background but when he talks KPIs, I realise that common sense has gone out of the window. For example; there could be a situation where a top, top, player whose KPIs were of less value than an average player, what happens there, who do we buy? I'd rather, Schumacher, Hughes, Pulis identify a good player, than a suit.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2024 20:17:44 GMT
Get him gone along with that fuckwit Dublin.. I've just had a look through Dublin's LinkedIn profile and whilst his education reads as pretty impressive on the top line to be fair, but I was more interested to learn more about his Level 1 in Player Identification qualification that he lists amongst his attributes. PFSA LEVEL 1 TALENT IDENTIFICATION IN FOOTBALL - CREATED BY EXPERIENCED PREMIER LEAGUE TALENT IDENTIFICATION SPECIALISTS It costs fifty quid, takes roughly 4-6 hours to complete, is undertaken online and is, cough, "a great stepping stone into a career in football." It is the first of twelve qualification available through the PFSA. Just eleven more to go, Jared. If that's true, that's frankly, an embarrassment. So he's a complete chancer, who seems to have had us in the net?
|
|
|
Post by smallthorner on Feb 12, 2024 20:20:52 GMT
Should read..
Ricky Martin
Technically a Director
|
|
|
Post by skip on Feb 12, 2024 20:24:47 GMT
I've just had a look through Dublin's LinkedIn profile and whilst his education reads as pretty impressive on the top line to be fair, but I was more interested to learn more about his Level 1 in Player Identification qualification that he lists amongst his attributes. PFSA LEVEL 1 TALENT IDENTIFICATION IN FOOTBALL - CREATED BY EXPERIENCED PREMIER LEAGUE TALENT IDENTIFICATION SPECIALISTS It costs fifty quid, takes roughly 4-6 hours to complete, is undertaken online and is, cough, "a great stepping stone into a career in football." It is the first of twelve qualification available through the PFSA. Just eleven more to go, Jared. If that's true, that's frankly, an embarrassment. So he's a complete chancer, who seems to have had us in the net? Well, I posted it in all good faith after taking a look at the PSFA website. So yes, I'm pretty sure it's true. "Upon finishing, you’ll be fully equipped and ready to tackle the upcoming courses in the pathway; Football Scouting: Level 2 Talent Identification Level 3 Advanced Reporting Complimentary Courses: Level 1 and 2 Opposition Scouting Level 1 and 2 Technical Scouting Introduction Into Football Scouting."
|
|
|
Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 12, 2024 20:34:54 GMT
In my naive mind it is the club itself who sets the tone. By that I mean they help shape the identity of the club. Off the back of that they employ a director of football who works with the head coach to agree incoming and outgoing players. Then as and when the manager leaves we have a constant role within the club consistently identifying Stoke compatible players. And as a result we know the right type of managers for that system/type of players we have. At the very least it would reduce the chaos with all these crazy mass signings where we hope it all miraculously comes together. The mismanagement over the last 7 or so years is absolutely shocking all things considered. I'm not sure of Martin's background but when he talks KPIs, I realise that common sense has gone out of the window. For example; there could be a situation where a top, top, player whose KPIs were of less value than an average player, what happens there, who do we buy? I'd rather, Schumacher, Hughes, Pulis identify a good player, than a suit. All I know is its been chaos for 7 years. I trusted TP to recruit his own players cos he actually knew what he was doing and had a set plan and also had a deal making ability. People can diss TP all they want but he was mustard for us in every aspect of the role. If you ask me TP would be the perfect DOF for Schumacher. Different styles yes. But as the boxing cliché goes styles make fights. And I think that pair would have us doing fantastic things in my opinion.
|
|
|
Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 12, 2024 21:04:39 GMT
RM’s record at SCFC doesn’t seem to reflect the word successful does it?
|
|
|
Post by starkiller on Feb 13, 2024 8:07:54 GMT
In my naive mind it is the club itself who sets the tone. By that I mean they help shape the identity of the club. Off the back of that they employ a director of football who works with the head coach to agree incoming and outgoing players. Then as and when the manager leaves we have a constant role within the club consistently identifying Stoke compatible players. And as a result we know the right type of managers for that system/type of players we have. At the very least it would reduce the chaos with all these crazy mass signings where we hope it all miraculously comes together. The mismanagement over the last 7 or so years is absolutely shocking all things considered. I'm not sure of Martin's background but when he talks KPIs, I realise that common sense has gone out of the window. For example; there could be a situation where a top, top, player whose KPIs were of less value than an average player, what happens there, who do we buy? I'd rather, Schumacher, Hughes, Pulis identify a good player, than a suit. Centre halves? Computer says 'No'!
|
|
|
Post by mamathestriker on Feb 13, 2024 8:38:14 GMT
RM’s record at SCFC doesn’t seem to reflect the word successful does it? Which KPIs has he met? I'd be interested to hear from him on that.
|
|
|
Post by Kingswaystokie on Feb 13, 2024 9:20:11 GMT
It beggars belief that an employee who has completely and utterly failed in his position has not been removed from his employment.
|
|
|
Post by frasier37 on Feb 13, 2024 9:32:18 GMT
I know this is a very shallow way of thinking but, I only had to look at the bloke and took a dislike to him. I feel i know a little more about him now and that gives me confidence in my judgement
|
|
|
Post by nottsover60 on Feb 13, 2024 10:00:41 GMT
I'm not sure of Martin's background but when he talks KPIs, I realise that common sense has gone out of the window. For example; there could be a situation where a top, top, player whose KPIs were of less value than an average player, what happens there, who do we buy? I'd rather, Schumacher, Hughes, Pulis identify a good player, than a suit. All I know is its been chaos for 7 years. I trusted TP to recruit his own players cos he actually knew what he was doing and had a set plan and also had a deal making ability. People can diss TP all they want but he was mustard for us in every aspect of the role. If you ask me TP would be the perfect DOF for Schumacher. Different styles yes. But as the boxing cliché goes styles make fights. And I think that pair would have us doing fantastic things in my opinion. TP signed some real dross, and at least 50% were not successful. Let's not pretend he was a genius in the transfer market. Plenty of players who didn't fit his style or damaged the team. I include in that Peter Crouch who although a great PR guy just didn't work for Stoke. In his latter years Pulis signed the likes of Brek Shea, Palacios, Upson, Woodgate, Jamie Ness, Michael Owen, Maurice Edu, Michael Kightly, Wood gate, Upson, Carew, Gudjohnsen, Arismendi, Danny Collins, Kitson. Those were all to add to the flops he bought when we were promoted which can be excused to a certain extent as he needed numbers and it can't be easy to persuade players to join a newly promoted team. The idea of Pulis and Schumacher working together just fills me with dread. Two stubborn characters, one young, experimental, progressive, wanting to sign young technical, tricky players to mould into his team at the expense of bread and butter players, and one who sticks to his rigid, tried and tested methods, doesn't trust young players until they are about 25 and fills his team with as many 6'6" defensive minded players even in the attacking areas as square pegs in round holes. One would walk before the end of their first week working together - you're correct there, opposite styles would make a great fight behind the scenes. We would probably end up with a squad of 30+year old defenders who the manager tries to get to play fast attacking, quick passing football.
|
|
|
Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 13, 2024 10:06:02 GMT
All I know is its been chaos for 7 years. I trusted TP to recruit his own players cos he actually knew what he was doing and had a set plan and also had a deal making ability. People can diss TP all they want but he was mustard for us in every aspect of the role. If you ask me TP would be the perfect DOF for Schumacher. Different styles yes. But as the boxing cliché goes styles make fights. And I think that pair would have us doing fantastic things in my opinion. TP signed some real dross, and at least 50% were not successful. Let's not pretend he was a genius in the transfer market. Plenty of players who didn't fit his style or damaged the team. I include in that Peter Crouch who although a great PR guy just didn't work for Stoke. In his latter years Pulis signed the likes of Brek Shea, Palacios, Upson, Woodgate, Jamie Ness, Micheal Owen, Maurice Edu, Michael Kightly, Wood gate, Upson, Carew, Gudjohnsen, Arismendi, Danny Collins, Kitson. Those were all to add to the flops he bought when we were promoted which can be excused to a certain extent as he needed numbers and it can't be easy to persuade players to join a newly promoted team. The idea of Pulis and Schumacher working together just fills me with dread. Two stubborn characters, one young, experimental, progressive, wanting to sign young technical, tricky players to mould into his team at the expense of bread and butter players, and one who sticks to his rigid, tried and tested methods, doesn't trust young players until they are about 25 and fills his team with as many 6'6" defensive minded players even in the attacking areas as square pegs in round holes. One would walk before the end of their first week working together - you're correct there, opposite styles would make a great fight behind the scenes. We would probably end up with a squad of 30+year old defenders who the manager tries to get to play fast attacking, quick passing football. You're probably right Notts. I'd had a few jars last night to be fair and was thinking out loud 😆 🤣
|
|