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Post by mickstupp on Mar 21, 2024 23:38:11 GMT
Shit, how could I forget him! Did he have a fallout with Mills? Let him go far too soon imo Yes he did, Kelly headbutted Brian Talbot in the tunnel after 4.1 defeat at Shrewsbury Mills sided with Talbot Talbot later signed Kelly for Albion Safe to say that Mick and Tony had a fractious relationship. I think Mills really wanted Kelly to do well because he was clearly a very talented player. Sadly, Zico shot himself in the foot repeatedly. He turned up for pre season training in 1986 two stone overweight and got taken out of the team after a few games and put on a crash course diet. Then, once he slimmed down a bit and started playing well, he got suspended and came back a few weeks later looking like the pilsbury dough boy again. The head butting incident with Talbot was the straw that broke the camels back. Ron Saunders actually signed him for West Brom. He only lasted a few months and got sacked and replaced by Ron Atkinson. Big Ron took the players over to Spain for a team bonding trip which ended up with Kelly getting involved in a fight with Don Goodman. As a result, he was then put on the transfer list a matter of weeks after signing for them. When Talbot took over he moved him on quickly to Shrewsbury. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2024 7:57:44 GMT
Your daily reminder that we needed the summer overhaul partly (a big part) because of Michael O’Neil.
I fucking despair.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 22, 2024 8:10:54 GMT
Your daily reminder that we needed the summer overhaul partly (a big part) because of Michael O’Neil. I fucking despair. 18 players signed this season, but yeah Michael O'Neill........  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2024 8:16:25 GMT
Your daily reminder that we needed the summer overhaul partly (a big part) because of Michael O’Neil. I fucking despair. 18 players signed this season, but yeah Michael O'Neill........ Yes because he picked a system and then didn’t sign players for it leading to us needing to rip the squad apart and sign a new squad. He is the reason that was needed. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 22, 2024 8:37:00 GMT
18 players signed this season, but yeah Michael O'Neill........ Yes because he picked a system and then didn’t sign players for it leading to us needing to rip the squad apart and sign a new squad. He is the reason that was needed. What a load of shite. We needed a major overhaul whether MON was in charge or not this season due to the amount of loanees returning and out of contract players we had, which was all FFP related...... |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 22, 2024 8:40:44 GMT
18 players signed this season, but yeah Michael O'Neill........ Yes because he picked a system and then didn’t sign players for it leading to us needing to rip the squad apart and sign a new squad. He is the reason that was needed. Thought he did a decent job, working within the constraints of FFP. |
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Post by danceswithclams on Mar 22, 2024 10:55:04 GMT
Yes he did, Kelly headbutted Brian Talbot in the tunnel after 4.1 defeat at Shrewsbury Mills sided with Talbot Talbot later signed Kelly for Albion Safe to say that Mick and Tony had a fractious relationship. I think Mills really wanted Kelly to do well because he was clearly a very talented player. Sadly, Zico shot himself in the foot repeatedly. He turned up for pre season training in 1986 two stone overweight and got taken out of the team after a few games and put on a crash course diet. Then, once he slimmed down a bit and started playing well, he got suspended and came back a few weeks later looking like the pilsbury dough boy again. The head butting incident with Talbot was the straw that broke the camels back. Ron Saunders actually signed him for West Brom. He only lasted a few months and got sacked and replaced by Ron Atkinson. Big Ron took the players over to Spain for a team bonding trip which ended up with Kelly getting involved in a fight with Don Goodman. As a result, he was then put on the transfer list a matter of weeks after signing for them. When Talbot took over he moved him on quickly to Shrewsbury. My cat is called Zico. People ask me if he's named after the mercurial 70s/80s Brazil midfield maestro and I answer in the affirmative. He's really named after Tony Kelly though. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2024 11:19:51 GMT
Yes because he picked a system and then didn’t sign players for it leading to us needing to rip the squad apart and sign a new squad. He is the reason that was needed. Thought he did a decent job, working within the constraints of FFP. He didn’t. FFP doesn’t restrict you signing players to fit a system you want to play. Bad management does that. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2024 11:21:13 GMT
Yes because he picked a system and then didn’t sign players for it leading to us needing to rip the squad apart and sign a new squad. He is the reason that was needed. What a load of shite. We needed a major overhaul whether MON was in charge or not this season due to the amount of loanees returning and out of contract players we had, which was all FFP related...... And he still spent 5-10m and still had expensive loans (none worked) and left us in a mess. A good manager would have spent the money wiser and used the loan market better and got more out of them. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 22, 2024 11:28:49 GMT
What a load of shite. We needed a major overhaul whether MON was in charge or not this season due to the amount of loanees returning and out of contract players we had, which was all FFP related...... And he still spent 5-10m and still had expensive loans (none worked) and left us in a mess. A good manager would have spent the money wiser and used the loan market better and got more out of them. That has nothing to do with my point. Whoever was manager this season faced a major overhaul this season. That's just a fact. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 22, 2024 11:35:40 GMT
Thought he did a decent job, working within the constraints of FFP. He didn’t. FFP doesn’t restrict you signing players to fit a system you want to play. Bad management does that. He did. You're wrong. |
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Post by mistergumby on Mar 23, 2024 10:17:36 GMT
Safe to say that Mick and Tony had a fractious relationship. I think Mills really wanted Kelly to do well because he was clearly a very talented player. Sadly, Zico shot himself in the foot repeatedly. He turned up for pre season training in 1986 two stone overweight and got taken out of the team after a few games and put on a crash course diet. Then, once he slimmed down a bit and started playing well, he got suspended and came back a few weeks later looking like the pilsbury dough boy again. The head butting incident with Talbot was the straw that broke the camels back. Ron Saunders actually signed him for West Brom. He only lasted a few months and got sacked and replaced by Ron Atkinson. Big Ron took the players over to Spain for a team bonding trip which ended up with Kelly getting involved in a fight with Don Goodman. As a result, he was then put on the transfer list a matter of weeks after signing for them. When Talbot took over he moved him on quickly to Shrewsbury. My cat is called Zico. People ask me if he's named after the mercurial 70s/80s Brazil midfield maestro and I answer in the affirmative. He's really named after Tony Kelly though. Fascinating. Can he fill in at left back? |
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 23, 2024 11:33:53 GMT
My cat is called Zico. People ask me if he's named after the mercurial 70s/80s Brazil midfield maestro and I answer in the affirmative. He's really named after Tony Kelly though. Fascinating. Can he fill in at left back? Well after that equalizer at Anfield and play me or sell me ultimatum to Lou you deserve a bit of cult status. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 23, 2024 11:34:47 GMT
Fascinating. Can he fill in at left back? Well after that equalizer at Anfield and play me or sell me ultimatum to Lou you deserve a bit of cult status. Thats the other Tony Kelly, TK not Zico |
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 23, 2024 11:35:18 GMT
Well after that equalizer at Anfield and play me or sell me ultimatum to Lou you deserve a bit of cult status. Thats the other Tony Kelly, TK not Zico  |
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Post by lordb on Mar 23, 2024 11:39:25 GMT
What a load of shite. We needed a major overhaul whether MON was in charge or not this season due to the amount of loanees returning and out of contract players we had, which was all FFP related...... And he still spent 5-10m and still had expensive loans (none worked) and left us in a mess. A good manager would have spent the money wiser and used the loan market better and got more out of them. Who spent £5 to £10m? NETT If you think MoN spent more than he generated with player sales you are simply factually wrong |
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 23, 2024 11:45:06 GMT
And he still spent 5-10m and still had expensive loans (none worked) and left us in a mess. A good manager would have spent the money wiser and used the loan market better and got more out of them. That has nothing to do with my point. Whoever was manager this season faced a major overhaul this season. That's just a fact. If Jones hadn't wasted a load of money before him, MON wouldn't have been hamstrung by FFP so it's his fault. Hang on, no, it was Rowett who made such a mess of recruitment before him that it's probably his fault. But if Lambert hadn't got us relegated then Rowett wouldn't have even had that summer. And if Hughes hadn't let everyone fuck around and down tools, we would never have had Lambert. Fucking hell, no actually, if TP hadn't taken his eye off the ball and got sacked, we wouldn't have had Hughes, Lambert, Rowett, Jones, MON, Neil or Schumacher. It's his fucking fault. And if Mick Mills had signed David Platt instead of Graham Shaw none of this would have happened. Actually, I blame Bob McGrory, the useless cunt. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2024 11:49:23 GMT
18 players signed this season, but yeah Michael O'Neill........ Yes because he picked a system and then didn’t sign players for it leading to us needing to rip the squad apart and sign a new squad. He is the reason that was needed. MON often wanted to play 352. It’s not his fault that we then hired a manager in AN who wanted to play 433. We’ve now hired a manager who likes to play a variant of 352 again. That’s on the chairman. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 23, 2024 15:59:00 GMT
I see Webber's put his foot in his mouth again, he seems to revel in it
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Post by silsdenstokie on Mar 23, 2024 16:13:04 GMT
I see Webber's put his foot in his mouth again, he seems to revel in it Dont like the sound of him one bit Must be someone better out there, surely? |
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 23, 2024 16:23:21 GMT
He's absolutely perfect for us by the sounds of it, would never be a dull moment 🤔
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Post by silsdenstokie on Mar 23, 2024 16:26:36 GMT
He's absolutely perfect for us by the sounds of it, would never be a dull moment 🤔 Aye theres that I suppose 😂 |
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 23, 2024 16:46:36 GMT
I see Webber's put his foot in his mouth again, he seems to revel in it From what I can pick out from other clubs, the used car salesman types can fluke success at one club and get headhunted, but have no idea how to replicate it. The club's that know what they're doing appoint football men to the post, often ones closely associated with the club. I'm finding myself very much in the Walters camp. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 23, 2024 17:33:43 GMT
I see Webber's put his foot in his mouth again, he seems to revel in it Dont like the sound of him one bit Must be someone better out there, surely? Arm we have been talking about MoN, SJW and Webber presumably Stoke will pay well There must be a decent list |
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Mar 23, 2024 17:42:06 GMT
Fascinating. Can he fill in at left back? Well after that equalizer at Anfield and play me or sell me ultimatum to Lou you deserve a bit of cult status. Well I have 3 dogs, called Bojan, Arnie and Shaq. They can definitely fill in up front for the current team. (although this is well off topic, inspired by the cat Zico and completely false...) |
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Post by Marc01 on Mar 23, 2024 18:01:24 GMT
This bloke likes him:
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 23, 2024 20:06:41 GMT
Picked up by the national papers now. Could finish his chances off (if he had any)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2024 20:30:35 GMT
I'd just like to retract my earlier statement of "I wouldn't be averse to Stuart Webber".
Christ.
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Post by mamathestriker on Mar 23, 2024 20:43:24 GMT
I'd just like to retract my earlier statement of "I wouldn't be averse to Stuart Webber". Christ. My gut feeling on Ricky Martin was he was an absolute chancer. My gut feeling about Webber is I'd prefer Tricky back. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2024 20:47:23 GMT
I'd just like to retract my earlier statement of "I wouldn't be averse to Stuart Webber". Christ. My gut feeling on Ricky Martin was he was an absolute chancer. My gut feeling about Webber is I'd prefer Tricky back. You just can't be thinking that in this day and age, nevermind saying it. |
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