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Post by theonlooker on May 5, 2024 8:29:44 GMT
The Team have only really to start playing as a unit since SJW sent out his battle cry. Our safety this year is down to him. So are you saying the manager in this case has done very little to the cause and if he was here on his own we'd have gone down? That's quite the statement.
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Post by samblano on May 5, 2024 8:35:02 GMT
No I'm not see my edit
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Post by bunnyscfc on May 5, 2024 8:44:25 GMT
I’m confused at some of the comments to Bunny. As I understand it he’s got nothing to prove as a Stoke fan. Major contributor to the Oatcake and behind the brilliant Duck magazine. Are people seriously questioning his supporting credentials (whatever that means) or his right to an opinion? From what I remember he’s been pretty transparent about the reasons he’s not going to many matches and they’re all very good reasons. A day like today should be about celebrating avoiding league one oblivion and looking forward to a brighter future not having petty dick measuring arguments. Especially with people who have absolutely nothing to prove as Stoke supporters. Cheers mate. I have absolutely no issues with folk disagreeing or telling me to f*** off. There are plenty of reasons that I haven't been to as many matches in the past 4 years as mega-fans and ultra-positives like JM - a mental health issue that saw me not able to leave the house for months, money, work - the usual things that are more important than football. I'm also nowhere near as big a Stokie as many others nor have I ever thought or said that. That I've written lots doesn't matter. But to say I'm gutted that Stoke have won and that I'm not welcome to place an opinion on a messageboard I've been part for for two decades......ain't having it. I've written hundreds of positive articles on this football club, players, city etc....but I've always said it as I see it. Like I said before, if some are happy with 7 years of failure, that's great. Fully respect that and I pray that Schuey is the man. Those same people need to respect the fact that others aren't happy bunnies (sic), but that doesn't mean we don't want Stoke to win. Infant stuff, that. I mean, just how old do you have to be to make a comment like "You must be gutted again today" to someone who has done 73 grounds and probably around 1250 Stoke games? Someone whose kid has played for Stoke for 10 years and who goes to Clayton Wood and stands in all weathers four times a week when most others sit in the car? I'm sure raising over £15K for local charities is negative drivel, too? That I have the type the above shouldn't matter, but it obviously does to medal winners, so I've bitten. Well done. Well, JM now has his wish. If opinions are met with responses that a 4 year old would be embarrassed by, then there's no reason to be on here, is there? I'm sure there'll be a juvenile "he's thrown his toys out the pram, mard arse" response forthcoming, and he'll no doubt be the king of the photocopier on Tuesday as he tells all and sundry about "getting rid of someone off The Oatcake". That's fine. Off now to watch my youngest make his debut for the first team in cricket now. He's shitting it, quite rightly, as he's nowhere near the level. He's someone who deserves my time and attention - more fool me trying to reason with folk who resort to inane drivel, as they'd no doubt call it. UTP
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Post by wilcopotter on May 5, 2024 8:46:01 GMT
You can't possibly think that just on the basis of Walters being appointed and his interviews since Of course you can. Who has the authority? Who’s being listened to? I don’t think Walters should have said the stuff he did in those interviews rallying the fans etc. That shouldn’t be his job and imo absolutely undermines the manager. Never happy with harmony. If this “discord” produces performances like yesterday that’ll do me.
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Post by Abdoulaye25 on May 5, 2024 8:46:19 GMT
One of the jobs of a Sporting Director is to make sure the atmosphere in the club is a good one, and that everyone is pushing in the same direction. The rallying cry may have helped to reset the toxic atmosphere that Martin created and it showed support for Schumacher in front of the players at a crucial time.
We still have to wait and see before we can judge SJW as a Sporting Director, but so far he's done exactly what was required.
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Post by peterthornesboots on May 5, 2024 8:56:14 GMT
It is hard not to make a direct link between SJW's appointment and our upturn in form.
I think that his arrival appears to have given Schumacher the support that he needed and helped to galvanise the fanbase.
So SJW certainly played a part, but the vast majority of the credit is still Schumacher's.
However, this is where the real work begins for SJW. The job is more than just putting out a few rousing speeches or interviews every couple months.
This football club needs something that it has not had for a long time - a clear philosophy and strategy for everything football related. We need to redefine our identity and use that as a foundation to build on.
Which is all far easier said than done!
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Post by andystokey on May 5, 2024 8:58:17 GMT
One of the jobs of a Sporting Director is to make sure the atmosphere in the club is a good one, and that everyone is pushing in the same direction. The rallying cry may have helped to reset the toxic atmosphere that Martin created and it showed support for Schumacher in front of the players at a crucial time. We still have to wait and see before we can judge SJW as a Sporting Director, but so far he's done exactly what was required. Martin was like a Harry Potter death eater sucking the life out of everything and everyone he encountered. Jon has been the exact opposite. It's a myth he has undermined SS, quite the opposite. He has shielded an under pressure young coach and drawn the fire and it was welcomed by the coach. The coach understands this job is massive and is very content with SJW doing much of the firefighting and fixing the distress that Martin caused. In his first week SJW went through CW and pointed out and acted on about twenty unacceptable behaviours and practices that got addressed immediately. There is no discord and the team behind the scenes are very comfortable with the role demarcation.
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Post by foxysgloves on May 5, 2024 9:00:15 GMT
I’m confused at some of the comments to Bunny. As I understand it he’s got nothing to prove as a Stoke fan. Major contributor to the Oatcake and behind the brilliant Duck magazine. Are people seriously questioning his supporting credentials (whatever that means) or his right to an opinion? From what I remember he’s been pretty transparent about the reasons he’s not going to many matches and they’re all very good reasons. A day like today should be about celebrating avoiding league one oblivion and looking forward to a brighter future not having petty dick measuring arguments. Especially with people who have absolutely nothing to prove as Stoke supporters. Cheers mate. I have absolutely no issues with folk disagreeing or telling me to f*** off. There are plenty of reasons that I haven't been to as many matches in the past 4 years as mega-fans and ultra-positives like JM - a mental health issue that saw me not able to leave the house for months, money, work - the usual things that are more important than football. I'm also nowhere near as big a Stokie as many others nor have I ever thought or said that. That I've written lots doesn't matter. But to say I'm gutted that Stoke have won and that I'm not welcome to place an opinion on a messageboard I've been part for for two decades......ain't having it. I've written hundreds of positive articles on this football club, players, city etc....but I've always said it as I see it. Like I said before, if some are happy with 7 years of failure, that's great. Fully respect that and I pray that Schuey is the man. Those same people need to respect the fact that others aren't happy bunnies (sic), but that doesn't mean we don't want Stoke to win. Infant stuff, that. I mean, just how old do you have to be to make a comment like "You must be gutted again today" to someone who has done 73 grounds and probably around 1250 Stoke games? Someone whose kid has played for Stoke for 10 years and who goes to Clayton Wood and stands in all weathers four times a week when most others sit in the car? I'm sure raising over £15K for local charities is negative drivel, too? That I have the type the above shouldn't matter, but it obviously does to medal winners, so I've bitten. Well done. Well, JM now has his wish. If opinions are met with responses that a 4 year old would be embarrassed by, then there's no reason to be on here, is there? I'm sure there'll be a juvenile "he's thrown his toys out the pram, mard arse" response forthcoming, and he'll no doubt be the king of the photocopier on Tuesday as he tells all and sundry about "getting rid of someone off The Oatcake". That's fine. Off now to watch my youngest make his debut for the first team in cricket now. He's shitting it, quite rightly, as he's nowhere near the level. He's someone who deserves my time and attention - more fool me trying to reason with folk who resort to inane drivel, as they'd no doubt call it. UTP Great post. For me that’s what this board is all about. Open and honest discussion about the one thing we all have in common. SCFC. Take a break from the board by all means but I’d hope you wouldn’t leave it altogether. I’m pretty sure the vast majority would agree with me in saying the board would be a poorer place without your input and insight.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 5, 2024 9:03:11 GMT
One of the jobs of a Sporting Director is to make sure the atmosphere in the club is a good one, and that everyone is pushing in the same direction. The rallying cry may have helped to reset the toxic atmosphere that Martin created and it showed support for Schumacher in front of the players at a crucial time. We still have to wait and see before we can judge SJW as a Sporting Director, but so far he's done exactly what was required. Agreed - one of the vital things for our success is that the sporting director and the head coach/manager work together as a team. It think that this does happen in our new set up, possibly helped by the fact that coach and sporting director hail from the same city and speak the same language - or at least with the same accent! Early days, but the results at the end of our season suggest there are reasons to be optimistic that the SS/JW partnership may have seen us turn the corner in terms of how our teams play and the results they can achieve. A decent summer transfer window and I think we will be closer to a return to the Prem.
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Post by gingerninja on May 5, 2024 9:18:41 GMT
Agreed Lakeland, I do expect other appointments behind the scenes, with a closer link between Schuey and Walters. I think there are interesting times ahead for sure this summer 🤔
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Post by nottsover60 on May 5, 2024 9:29:42 GMT
I find it difficult to imagine a disconnect between Walters and Schumacher or why would Walter's position have been made permanent? It was pretty obvious that Martin went because him and SS could not work together and the board backed Schumacher. They are not that incompetent that a few months later they would put him in the same situation again. If anything it has been emphasised how much they have in common. That doesn't mean they have to agree about everything. That would be an unhealthy working relationship.
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