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Post by bunnyscfc on May 3, 2024 21:17:14 GMT
Very easy to work out……Perhaps those in charge of 7 years of utter shite? Unless 18th is to be accepted and celebrated?
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on May 3, 2024 21:23:01 GMT
Just out of interest why are you so abusive to a former successful manager of the Club who delivered safety from relegation, promotion, an FA Cup Final and European football in during his tenure? As he ever poured scorn on the club, its supporters or the City? Just interested I didn't realise I was? In his own words he's retired, so walk away and leave the game behind. Let the people in the job find their own way. It's quite simple. A lot of successful people have at least one mentor and I imagine Pulis is a very good one. |
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Post by lordb on May 3, 2024 21:25:03 GMT
Very easy to work out……Perhaps those in charge of 7 years of utter shite? Unless 18th is to be accepted and celebrated? 'those in charge' Have changed multiple times since relegation if you mean the club as opposed to the managers we'll Scholes left and the dreadful Martin has been replaced If you simply mean JC it's as daft an argument as saying PC could never get Stoke promoted when he came back in 2006 (I should know as I was adamant he couldn't) Benji argues that we know have decent people in the right posts, King, Walters, Schumacher, Richard Smith That looks like a much stronger argument than yours |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 3, 2024 21:26:23 GMT
Very easy to work out……Perhaps those in charge of 7 years of utter shite? Unless 18th is to be accepted and celebrated? The same ones in charge for the 10 years before that as well |
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Post by bunnyscfc on May 3, 2024 21:35:14 GMT
Very easy to work out……Perhaps those in charge of 7 years of utter shite? Unless 18th is to be accepted and celebrated? 'those in charge' Have changed multiple times since relegation if you mean the club as opposed to the managers we'll Scholes left and the dreadful Martin has been replaced If you simply mean JC it's as daft an argument as saying PC could never get Stoke promoted when he came back in 2006 (I should know as I was adamant he couldn't) Benji argues that we know have decent people in the right posts, King, Walters, Schumacher, Richard Smith That looks like a much stronger argument than yours Why is JC a daft arguement. A track record of dross. And the manager has shown little to suggest anything better than relegation battles. A fab zone won't get us top six |
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Post by generationex on May 3, 2024 21:36:09 GMT
I have more faith in the current regime than any since JC imposed Cartwright upon us.
I think JC has realised that his fantasy football dream was just that .
Time for the SOP (Sons of Pulis) to rise up again!!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 3, 2024 21:37:48 GMT
'those in charge' Have changed multiple times since relegation if you mean the club as opposed to the managers we'll Scholes left and the dreadful Martin has been replaced If you simply mean JC it's as daft an argument as saying PC could never get Stoke promoted when he came back in 2006 (I should know as I was adamant he couldn't) Benji argues that we know have decent people in the right posts, King, Walters, Schumacher, Richard Smith That looks like a much stronger argument than yours Why is JC a daft arguement. A track record of dross. And the manager has shown little to suggest anything better than relegation battles. A fab zone won't get us top six How have you come to that conclusion on the manager mate when you don’t actually watch/attend games anymore?Very very harsh in my opinion |
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 3, 2024 21:40:44 GMT
Very easy to work out……Perhaps those in charge of 7 years of utter shite? Unless 18th is to be accepted and celebrated? Is that an answer to my post where I asked for suggested solutions? |
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Post by lordb on May 3, 2024 21:42:29 GMT
'those in charge' Have changed multiple times since relegation if you mean the club as opposed to the managers we'll Scholes left and the dreadful Martin has been replaced If you simply mean JC it's as daft an argument as saying PC could never get Stoke promoted when he came back in 2006 (I should know as I was adamant he couldn't) Benji argues that we know have decent people in the right posts, King, Walters, Schumacher, Richard Smith That looks like a much stronger argument than yours Why is JC a daft arguement. A track record of dross. And the manager has shown little to suggest anything better than relegation battles. A fab zone won't get us top six He got 100 + points with Plymouth, something no Stoke manager has ever done already he's got Stoke making loads more chances and having loads more attempts at goal than before last week was a good example 1 scored but should have been at least 3 Very clear where we need to improve if we improve our finishing from dreadful to average we will be miles better off it's staring everyone in the face that things have changed |
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 3, 2024 21:53:32 GMT
Yes, the only thing missing is a chorus of green sleeves. People derided Ricky Martin for corporate speak and rightly so. I like SJW but he’s said fuck all really other than waffle platitudes for 4 minutes. Hopefully it’s just a media front and what he’s actually doing behind the scenes is effective. Yeah, just a load of hot air and repeating the same thing over and over again, no substance to it whatsoever and waffling about cleaning ladies and chefs. I really hope he knows what he's doing or it'll be a disastrous appointment. |
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Post by bassmaster on May 3, 2024 21:55:48 GMT
'those in charge' Have changed multiple times since relegation if you mean the club as opposed to the managers we'll Scholes left and the dreadful Martin has been replaced If you simply mean JC it's as daft an argument as saying PC could never get Stoke promoted when he came back in 2006 (I should know as I was adamant he couldn't) Benji argues that we know have decent people in the right posts, King, Walters, Schumacher, Richard Smith That looks like a much stronger argument than yours Why is JC a daft arguement. A track record of dross. And the manager has shown little to suggest anything better than relegation battles. A fab zone won't get us top six Where do I find the fab zone please… |
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Post by bunnyscfc on May 3, 2024 21:56:17 GMT
Why is JC a daft arguement. A track record of dross. And the manager has shown little to suggest anything better than relegation battles. A fab zone won't get us top six How have you come to that conclusion on the manager mate when you don’t actually watch/attend games anymore?Very very harsh in my opinion I don't watch games? Righto. Seem most of this seasons games. I like the manager in some respects, but first dign of danger he wet the bed. Nothing has shown me we'll be any better, but hooe he proves me wrong. A culture of celebrating escaping relegation ends one way. |
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Post by bunnyscfc on May 3, 2024 21:56:42 GMT
Why is JC a daft arguement. A track record of dross. And the manager has shown little to suggest anything better than relegation battles. A fab zone won't get us top six Where do I find the fab zone please… Where the lollies are |
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Post by flash on May 3, 2024 21:58:42 GMT
Why is JC a daft arguement. A track record of dross. And the manager has shown little to suggest anything better than relegation battles. A fab zone won't get us top six Where do I find the fab zone please… Turn right at the swinging 60s |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 3, 2024 22:04:32 GMT
How have you come to that conclusion on the manager mate when you don’t actually watch/attend games anymore?Very very harsh in my opinion I don't watch games? Righto. Seem most of this seasons games. I like the manager in some respects, but first dign of danger he wet the bed. Nothing has shown me we'll be any better, but hooe he proves me wrong. A culture of celebrating escaping relegation ends one way. When did he wet the bed then as you put it? Come on mate your focus at the minute is Leek Town and has been for most of the season so how you’ve seen most of the games I’ll never know🤔 |
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Post by bunnyscfc on May 3, 2024 22:08:52 GMT
I don't watch games? Righto. Seem most of this seasons games. I like the manager in some respects, but first dign of danger he wet the bed. Nothing has shown me we'll be any better, but hooe he proves me wrong. A culture of celebrating escaping relegation ends one way. When did he wet the bed then as you put it? Come on mate your focus at the minute is Leek Town and has been for most of the season so how you’ve seen most of the games I’ll never know🤔 Started there in November, and the Internet etc is a wonderful thing. He didn't have a clue as to best team and formation, but in his defence he was handed a poor hand due to awful leadership. Nice bloke, but seen little to tell me we'll improve. |
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Post by baconburger on May 4, 2024 5:35:41 GMT
I have more faith in the current regime than any since JC imposed Cartwright upon us. I think JC has realised that his fantasy football dream was just that . Time for the SOP (Sons of Pulis) to rise up again!! Sounds like a horror film. That’s precisely my concern about Walters, football philosophy by association which I accept could be completely wide of the mark. I think that shows what little influence he’s had so far. He’s a completely unknown quantity but I don’t see how having a SD and a head coach with completely opposite views of the game can be successful. |
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Post by baconburger on May 4, 2024 5:43:28 GMT
I don't watch games? Righto. Seem most of this seasons games. I like the manager in some respects, but first dign of danger he wet the bed. Nothing has shown me we'll be any better, but hooe he proves me wrong. A culture of celebrating escaping relegation ends one way. When did he wet the bed then as you put it? Come on mate your focus at the minute is Leek Town and has been for most of the season so how you’ve seen most of the games I’ll never know🤔 He clearly put his philosophy to one side and started playing attritional percentage football. My only question about that was did he decide or was he told and then went back to a style you’d associate with him for the Plymouth game. If he was told to play the ugly shit who told him he could revert for our biggest game in years. The dynamics of our management set up are a real head scratcher. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 5:54:07 GMT
People derided Ricky Martin for corporate speak and rightly so. I like SJW but he’s said fuck all really other than waffle platitudes for 4 minutes. Hopefully it’s just a media front and what he’s actually doing behind the scenes is effective. Yeah, just a load of hot air and repeating the same thing over and over again, no substance to it whatsoever and waffling about cleaning ladies and chefs. I really hope he knows what he's doing or it'll be a disastrous appointment. Totally disagree. Communication has been missing from this club. Communication of what standards are expected, from ALL staff. The athletic article was very damaging and made this point. Without clear communication people get a negative attitude, don't work too standards, that's what seems to have been happening with players here in particular. If you join a club like Celtic or rangers, that's what it communicated, you are expected to rise to a new level, up your game. That's what we want at stoke, and it needs constant communication and joined up thinking and that's what Walters is there to do. I'm glad to hear this sort of talk from him. It sounds like he is accessible to everyone in the club, and not hiding himself in an ivory tower then coming out with the odd clever quote or slide show presentation. Of course, squad planning will be another big project he'll have been involved in and we're about to see the result of this planning in the summer. We desperately need to see progress this time |
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Post by werrington on May 4, 2024 6:27:43 GMT
Manager changes tactics to suit the formation and opposition shocker ….its now called shitting themselves apparently
Fuck me some of those on here have backed themselves into such a corner they are clinging on to anything to justify the shite they’ve posted about him relegating us since he signed
He didn’t and he’s done the job he set it out to do and it’s got them scurrying around for anything to cling on to
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Post by baconburger on May 4, 2024 6:50:52 GMT
Manager changes tactics to suit the formation and opposition shocker ….its now called shitting themselves apparently Fuck me some of those on here have backed themselves into such a corner they are clinging on to anything to justify the shite they’ve posted about him relegating us since he signed He didn’t and he’s done the job he set it out to do and it’s got them scurrying around for anything to cling on to That’s rubbish. There was clearly a period where he tried to implement his own philosophies which after a meh start went into freefall. That was followed by a period where we clearly played a more attritional ugly percentage brand of football to grind out the points to create a chink of light between us and the bottom 3. Followed by the surprise reversion to Schuball for the Plymouth game. I’m certainly not seeing that to slight our head coach in any way whatsoever. What came in between concerned me more than anything. Plymouth gave me hope that we still might actually try to play some decent football moving forward. As I’ve said above there is far more still unknown than known about the dynamics of our management set up and that’s mainly because Walters footballing beliefs are completely unknown barring an association which could be completely wide of the mark. I’m interested to see how it pans out. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 7:14:43 GMT
Very easy to work out……Perhaps those in charge of 7 years of utter shite? Unless 18th is to be accepted and celebrated? 'those in charge' Have changed multiple times since relegation if you mean the club as opposed to the managers we'll Scholes left and the dreadful Martin has been replaced If you simply mean JC it's as daft an argument as saying PC could never get Stoke promoted when he came back in 2006 (I should know as I was adamant he couldn't) Benji argues that we know have decent people in the right posts, King, Walters, Schumacher, Richard Smith That looks like a much stronger argument than yours This time next year, we’ll be saying “they are young, they just need time”, then we’ll blame injuries, then we’ll look for change and it’ll be a “fresh start”. John Coates relies on overspending to make up for his failures as a chairman, so instead of being relegated we escape it with a game to spare. Wonderful leadership. |
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Post by scfcadams on May 4, 2024 7:26:43 GMT
Time for the SOP (Sons of Pulis) to rise up again!! I think I just threw up a little |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 7:52:57 GMT
Very easy to work out……Perhaps those in charge of 7 years of utter shite? Unless 18th is to be accepted and celebrated? Benji argues that we know have decent people in the right posts, King, Walters, Schumacher, Richard Smith That looks like a much stronger argument than yours To be fair, if Walters wasn't an ex Stoke player and was called Dave Smith the argument from Benji (and others) would be very different. You'd hear things like "no course and distance" and "has never run a proper summer transfer window" and "huge risk" and of course the old faithful "gravity crocodile". I'm loving the positivity but i'm not yet seeing the basis for it that most people are? |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 4, 2024 7:56:01 GMT
Benji argues that we know have decent people in the right posts, King, Walters, Schumacher, Richard Smith That looks like a much stronger argument than yours To be fair, if Walters wasn't an ex Stoke player and was called Dave Smith the argument from Benji (and others) would be very different. You'd hear things like "no course and distance" and "has never run a proper summer transfer window" and "huge risk" and of course the old faithful "gravity crocodile". I'm loving the positivity but i'm not yet seeing the basis for it that most people are? Give it time “ the times they are a changin “ |
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Post by lordb on May 4, 2024 7:59:39 GMT
Manager changes tactics to suit the formation and opposition shocker ….its now called shitting themselves apparently Fuck me some of those on here have backed themselves into such a corner they are clinging on to anything to justify the shite they’ve posted about him relegating us since he signed He didn’t and he’s done the job he set it out to do and it’s got them scurrying around for anything to cling on to That’s rubbish. There was clearly a period where he tried to implement his own philosophies which after a meh start went into freefall. That was followed by a period where we clearly played a more attritional ugly percentage brand of football to grind out the points to create a chink of light between us and the bottom 3. Followed by the surprise reversion to Schuball for the Plymouth game. I’m certainly not seeing that to slight our head coach in any way whatsoever. What came in between concerned me more than anything. Plymouth gave me hope that we still might actually try to play some decent football moving forward. As I’ve said above there is far more still unknown than known about the dynamics of our management set up and that’s mainly because Walters footballing beliefs are completely unknown barring an association which could be completely wide of the mark. I’m interested to see how it pans out. It's not rubbish Certain posters have decided very early that he's no good, that we will go down and are now stating the modest but clear changes in the right direction are nothing to do with the manager or in Bayerns case down to luck Now we are seeing more than poster hint and nudge that the relationship between manager and SJW is not right, that there is some mysterious disconnect between them. |
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Post by thisisouryear on May 4, 2024 8:02:03 GMT
How have you come to that conclusion on the manager mate when you don’t actually watch/attend games anymore?Very very harsh in my opinion I don't watch games? Righto. Seem most of this seasons games. I like the manager in some respects, but first dign of danger he wet the bed. Nothing has shown me we'll be any better, but hooe he proves me wrong. A culture of celebrating escaping relegation ends one way. We started losing games, maybe the manager thought the team was becoming fatigued because they hadn't fully adapted to his style of play and the mistakes we were making were because of that. He reigned it in, spent a few more weeks building their fitness levels up more and then we went again and finished the season a lot stronger with a few clean sheets in there to boot playing the style of football he wants us to play. This is how it looks to me, I wouldn't call it shitting the bed. He's proved he can adapt and play different styles of football and still get results, I'm quite impressed by him to be fair. It feels like we actually have a proper coach who will take us forward now. |
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Post by jm on May 4, 2024 8:04:56 GMT
When did he wet the bed then as you put it? Come on mate your focus at the minute is Leek Town and has been for most of the season so how you’ve seen most of the games I’ll never know🤔 Started there in November, and the Internet etc is a wonderful thing. He didn't have a clue as to best team and formation, but in his defence he was handed a poor hand due to awful leadership. Nice bloke, but seen little to tell me we'll improve. Well we already have improved - 18 points from 11 games since slipping into the relegation zone. Your agenda is becoming tiresome. |
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Post by senojbor on May 4, 2024 8:14:39 GMT
Manager changes tactics to suit the formation and opposition shocker ….its now called shitting themselves apparently Fuck me some of those on here have backed themselves into such a corner they are clinging on to anything to justify the shite they’ve posted about him relegating us since he signed He didn’t and he’s done the job he set it out to do and it’s got them scurrying around for anything to cling on to That’s rubbish. There was clearly a period where he tried to implement his own philosophies which after a meh start went into freefall. That was followed by a period where we clearly played a more attritional ugly percentage brand of football to grind out the points to create a chink of light between us and the bottom 3. Followed by the surprise reversion to Schuball for the Plymouth game. I’m certainly not seeing that to slight our head coach in any way whatsoever. What came in between concerned me more than anything. Plymouth gave me hope that we still might actually try to play some decent football moving forward. As I’ve said above there is far more still unknown than known about the dynamics of our management set up and that’s mainly because Walters footballing beliefs are completely unknown barring an association which could be completely wide of the mark. I’m interested to see how it pans out. Plymouth home game give you hope? What about fantastic away wins at Southampton Hull and Preston? |
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Post by werrington on May 4, 2024 8:41:25 GMT
That’s rubbish. There was clearly a period where he tried to implement his own philosophies which after a meh start went into freefall. That was followed by a period where we clearly played a more attritional ugly percentage brand of football to grind out the points to create a chink of light between us and the bottom 3. Followed by the surprise reversion to Schuball for the Plymouth game. I’m certainly not seeing that to slight our head coach in any way whatsoever. What came in between concerned me more than anything. Plymouth gave me hope that we still might actually try to play some decent football moving forward. As I’ve said above there is far more still unknown than known about the dynamics of our management set up and that’s mainly because Walters footballing beliefs are completely unknown barring an association which could be completely wide of the mark. I’m interested to see how it pans out. Plymouth home game give you hope? What about fantastic away wins at Southampton Hull and Preston? And the Middlesbrough match or second half v Leeds |
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