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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 7, 2023 16:05:40 GMT
The table doesn’t lie, our direction is deep trouble as things stand. We should be higher than this or at least performing better, even allowing for ‘time to gel’ and injuries. there are certainly some shit clubs above us so AN needs to fuck right off with his fucking excuses.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 7, 2023 16:05:48 GMT
Mission accomplished for Neil, 1 week closer to his £m++ payoff for failure and still plenty of time left for a few weeks on a foreign beach.
Got to hand it to him.
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Alex Neil
Oct 7, 2023 16:06:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 16:06:01 GMT
Strange tweet from Percy. Wonder if he's heard anything? What are your spidey senses saying, FM?
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Post by chuckrocky on Oct 7, 2023 16:06:25 GMT
Strange tweet from Percy. Wonder if he's heard anything? That record is staggering. He’s been a Lambert/Jones level of disaster.
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Alex Neil
Oct 7, 2023 16:06:51 GMT
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Post by ravey123 on Oct 7, 2023 16:06:51 GMT
I don't think he's got it in him to sort this mess out
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Post by gawa on Oct 7, 2023 16:07:44 GMT
you’re coming across as a complete knob yet again I'm dealing with a few to be fair To be fair mate you seem completely unbothered by the prospect of relegation getting closer with each passing week and you're only interested in trying to protect Alex Neil. You were even blaming young Nathan Lowe in the match day thread and once again Alex Neil escapes criticism. Everyone but Alex Neil that's to blame with you.
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Alex Neil
Oct 7, 2023 16:07:57 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Oct 7, 2023 16:07:57 GMT
The obvious answer is to sack him, but the spectre on the hill is who would we replace him with? With our owners it has steadily got worse each time we've sacked a manager, with only a temporary reprieve under Michael O'Neill, and even that was a stupid risk when you look at the circumstances and his lack of experience for a Championship relegation battle. It's fast coming to the time where I'm expecting us to go down as it almost feels inevitable under the current ownership, and that saddens me greatly. In football terms they are appalling owners. Constantly putting the club in the hands of people that don't have the ability. we cross that bridge when it happens , you don’t continue with a loser just because you’re worried the next one will be as bad , you’ve got take the chance
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Alex Neil
Oct 7, 2023 16:08:27 GMT
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Post by potterfox1011 on Oct 7, 2023 16:08:27 GMT
most of us expected us lose today , but Neil is clearly not good enough , by the time most wake up and realise this we will be relegation fodder cowardly tactics against a second string leicester team.we showed we could create chances,but not if everyone's in their own half.junior and macanally johnson gets more useless every week.
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Alex Neil
Oct 7, 2023 16:09:13 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Oct 7, 2023 16:09:13 GMT
you’re coming across as a complete knob yet again I'm dealing with a few to be fair keep away from mirrors then
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 7, 2023 16:10:34 GMT
Strange tweet from Percy. Wonder if he's heard anything? What are your spidey senses saying, FM? I'd be surprised - but after the way they dealt with MON, you never know if they've got something cooking behind the scenes! Doubt he'd survive going winless against Sunderland, Leeds and Boro though, which let's face it, is a very real possibility?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 16:10:38 GMT
Strange tweet from Percy. Wonder if he's heard anything? Haven’t heard anything Stoke from him in ages! How odd.
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Post by stokeypenn89 on Oct 7, 2023 16:10:38 GMT
It's going to go the same we it always does with these owners, we will sack him too late and have to get a manager in the save us from going down. This will mean we will not attract the caliber of manager that will take us forward as a club. We will finish 16th again, the board will say they belive this is the right manager to take us forward, he will sign a new squad in the summer and we will he back in the same position in 18 months. We need to be proactive, sack him now while this season is still salvageable!
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Alex Neil
Oct 7, 2023 16:10:49 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 7, 2023 16:10:49 GMT
Time to go, time to go, time to go…..
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Alex Neil
Oct 7, 2023 16:11:00 GMT
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Post by neddy on Oct 7, 2023 16:11:00 GMT
If they sack him you’d think it would be in the next 24 hours re two weeks to next match? Failing that December I guess if no improvement?
I still think he will be given the season.
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Alex Neil
Oct 7, 2023 16:11:11 GMT
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Post by danceswithclams on Oct 7, 2023 16:11:11 GMT
I don't think he's got it in him to sort this mess out Why?
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Alex Neil
Oct 7, 2023 16:11:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 16:11:15 GMT
The obvious answer is to sack him, but the spectre on the hill is who would we replace him with? With our owners it has steadily got worse each time we've sacked a manager, with only a temporary reprieve under Michael O'Neill, and even that was a stupid risk when you look at the circumstances and his lack of experience for a Championship relegation battle. It's fast coming to the time where I'm expecting us to go down as it almost feels inevitable under the current ownership, and that saddens me greatly. In football terms they are appalling owners. Constantly putting the club in the hands of people that don't have the ability. we cross that bridge when it happens , you don’t continue with a loser just because you’re worried the next one will be as bad , you’ve got take the chance With respect, I was roundly abused and mocked on here for saying the exact same when we were here under MON last year. Sorry to say I've been proven right. You are right of course but let's not pretend the next man will be any better than this one because the long, long history going back to January 2018 proves it's going to be the very opposite.
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Post by milky on Oct 7, 2023 16:11:34 GMT
He just isn't very good is he but he thinks he is.
I don't like him but he genuinely want him to turn it round but don't think he us capable. There are some decent players here ( some crap too tbf ) but he has no idea what to do with them.
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Alex Neil
Oct 7, 2023 16:12:02 GMT
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Oct 7, 2023 16:12:02 GMT
I'm dealing with a few to be fair To be fair mate you seem completely unbothered by the prospect of relegation getting closer with each passing week and you're only interested in trying to protect Alex Neil. You were even blaming young Nathan Lowe in the match day thread and once again Alex Neil escapes criticism. Everyone but Alex Neil that's to blame with you. Everyone but MON was to blame with you.
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Post by questionable on Oct 7, 2023 16:12:37 GMT
I haven’t got the foggiest what this idiot is trying to put together other than he needs to go.
He’s got as much chance as gelling his hair than gelling a team together
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 7, 2023 16:12:37 GMT
Think Neil is approaching a period of must win games now, which I don’t think he will achieve. Just feel it’s a matter of time, but you know the board will be ill prepared as usual and dither along.
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Alex Neil
Oct 7, 2023 16:13:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 16:13:02 GMT
Wonder if Michael Beale being sacked at Rangers has piqued the owners’ interests.
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 7, 2023 16:13:56 GMT
I'm dealing with a few to be fair To be fair mate you seem completely unbothered by the prospect of relegation getting closer with each passing week and you're only interested in trying to protect Alex Neil. You were even blaming young Nathan Lowe in the match day thread and once again Alex Neil escapes criticism. Everyone but Alex Neil that's to blame with you. Well quite the opposite, 'blaming young Lowe' well to be fair he has spurned 4 good chances in the last two games, it's not a development team. Anybody else would be getting pelters. You're right, I'm not wetting my knickers about relegation because it's obsurd, no chance. We have been decimated by injuries to key players right from the very start of the season. Now add to that we've had to integrate 17 new players from all over the globe and a lack of pre-season. I didn't expect much start of the season but with these injuries just cements that thought
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 7, 2023 16:14:13 GMT
He'll get the 5 games inbetween the 2 international breaks to turn it around which takes him to mid November.
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Oct 7, 2023 16:14:46 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Oct 7, 2023 16:14:46 GMT
we cross that bridge when it happens , you don’t continue with a loser just because you’re worried the next one will be as bad , you’ve got take the chance With respect, I was roundly abused and mocked on here for saying the exact same when we were here under MON last year. Sorry to say I've been proven right. You are right of course but let's not pretend the next man will be any better than this one because the long, long history going back to January 2018 proves it's going to be the very opposite. i remember what you said , doesn’t make it right though , AGAIN you can’t carry on losing week in week out , Yeah we need better ppl making the decision who we bring in but that won’t happen , but imo we got get rid and try again , i don’t care if we have to do that a thousand times till we get a good manager , because losing is losing , i want us win
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Alex Neil
Oct 7, 2023 16:15:34 GMT
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Post by glpotter on Oct 7, 2023 16:15:34 GMT
He'll get the 5 games inbetween the 2 international breaks to turn it around which takes him to mid November. Far too late AGAIN
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 7, 2023 16:15:56 GMT
What are your spidey senses saying, FM? I'd be surprised - but after the way they dealt with MON, you never know if they've got something cooking behind the scenes! Doubt he'd survive going winless against Sunderland, Leeds and Boro though, which let's face it, is a very real possibility? Even three points from that shouldn’t be enough to save him. Yes, he’s been unlucky with injuries but even after a couple of games in the signs of his incompetence were starting to pop up. He just can’t be given more time, though of course he will.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Oct 7, 2023 16:16:12 GMT
I'm dealing with a few to be fair To be fair mate you seem completely unbothered by the prospect of relegation getting closer with each passing week and you're only interested in trying to protect Alex Neil. You were even blaming young Nathan Lowe in the match day thread and once again Alex Neil escapes criticism. Everyone but Alex Neil that's to blame with you. I wouldn’t bother mate, I was told to piss off to Man City or Liverpool earlier because I want my beloved team above 21st in the championship. Certainly a character the lad.
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Post by cdf on Oct 7, 2023 16:16:47 GMT
It's going to go the same we it always does with these owners, we will sack him too late and have to get a manager in the save us from going down. This will mean we will not attract the caliber of manager that will take us forward as a club. We will finish 16th again, the board will say they belive this is the right manager to take us forward, he will sign a new squad in the summer and we will he back in the same position in 18 months. We need to be proactive, sack him now while this season is still salvageable! Eat Sleep Rave Repeat
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 7, 2023 16:17:40 GMT
Yeah, injuries offer mitigation, definitely - especially Vidigal and Mmaee (although how he'll adapt is still completely unknown) But the lack of any decent back-up for Mmaee is puzzling. We obviously wanted Thomas-Asante on deadline day - but Mmaee had been injured for 3 weeks by then - and it looks like he'll end up missing 10+ weeks. We're on the back foot, back in point-a-game territory after 10 games because the only player we've had to fill the striker role has been a wild swing on someone who has missed 2 years of football and is now lower-league standard and doesn't offer any of the target-man qualities he was bemoaning the lack of after every defeat last season. Leris has done okay, and his work-rate looks exactly as described, but he's not going to be consistent source of goals, worldies aside, you'd think. With us being so completely blunt down the middle and so desperately lacking at centre-back and left-back, a chunk of the problem is self-inflicted. The fact we were prepared to pay £750,000 on Michael Rose in January is quite scary. To be honest I'd love to know the reasoning behind signing Wesley, he was definatley a player we brought in as a stop gap and it does look completely senseless given his immobility, Neil's Stoke career could hang on this decision given the injury to Mmaee, which is incredibly sad. I still think it's harsh though considering changing the manager( well a small group of supporters) when two of his key attacking options pick up an injury Wesley came in to be the lump it man in the last 5/10 mins of games, he was never menant to be starting so many games going of the interviews.
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Alex Neil
Oct 7, 2023 16:17:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 16:17:56 GMT
As much as I think time is rapidly catching up with Neil, it's worth noting, that there were 7 or 8 absolutely piss-poor bits of play today, and mostly from our so-called senior players.
Some of which he's signed off on, to be fair.
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