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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 4, 2023 7:36:52 GMT
We've got relegation written all over us. Shit with a hint of bad luck. Not a good combo…………. |
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Post by Veritas on Oct 4, 2023 7:37:18 GMT
We've got relegation written all over us. No we haven't |
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Post by lordb on Oct 4, 2023 7:38:05 GMT
We've got relegation written all over us. The one thing that points away from that is the clear fight and commitment the team are showing Points haul so far is alarming Whether AN stays or is replaced staying up is the aim this season which is sad |
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 4, 2023 7:39:58 GMT
We've got relegation written all over us. No we haven't Teams who struggle to score goals and are likely to concede when the ball comes into their own half will struggle. Couple that with a manager who is reeling like a drunk from pub to pub with team selections and formations then we're in trouble. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 4, 2023 7:40:44 GMT
We've got relegation written all over us. The one thing that points away from that is the clear fight and commitment the team are showing Points haul so far is alarming Whether AN stays or is replaced staying up is the aim this season which is sad To be fair the other teams around us seem to be showing fight and commitment as well so I wouldn’t read too much into that. If you look at individuals across our squad we shouldn’t be anywhere near a relegation battle but two gaping holes in the squad one in defence and one up front suggest it’s could happen if we don’t get a wriggle on soon….. |
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 4, 2023 7:41:32 GMT
We've got relegation written all over us. The one thing that points away from that is the clear fight and commitment the team are showing Points haul so far is alarming Whether AN stays or is replaced staying up is the aim this season which is sad October 4th and our aim is to survive. Just not good enough - the manager was brought in on big money to get us challenging, we're a million miles off a year later. |
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 4, 2023 7:42:48 GMT
The one thing that points away from that is the clear fight and commitment the team are showing Points haul so far is alarming Whether AN stays or is replaced staying up is the aim this season which is sad To be fair the other teams around us seem to be showing fight and commitment as well so I wouldn’t read too much into that. If you look at individuals across our squad we shouldn’t be anywhere near a relegation battle but two gaping holes in the squad one in defence and one up front suggest it’s could happen if we don’t get a wriggle on soon….. I've seen nothing that suggests these players are consistently any good. |
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Post by stiggerstackle on Oct 4, 2023 7:57:51 GMT
I just don't know what to make of us at all.
Despite the obvious areas lacking in the squad, and the horrendous injury list, that team played for AN last night - first time in what seems like an age we had a team go toe-to-toe and get aggressive. They didn't roll over, and it was good to see a few scuffles and squaring up - showed they at least care. If the team were in despair about management decisions, selections, recruitment and tactics, they had the perfect excuse last night to go through the motions knowing an easy defeat would likely see the back of AN, but after Saturday and last night I think they actually want to play for him.
To be fair to AN, the last couple of games he's reverted to a back 4 (as we were all clamouring for), and he's played people in their actual preferred positions (except when in-game injuries dictated otherwise) and lo and behold, we have improved performances.
It gives the board the mother of all headaches, we all knew that 'the great reset' would take time, and the last 2 performances have definitely shown green shoots (and anyone denying that is just peddling agenda driven nonsense), but we have an abject record and glaring holes in the squad that we need to nurse through til January.
If they keep him, it's understandable given the investment in his plan and the sheer amount of change they've allowed to occur, if they get rid, it's also understandable as his record is dogshit. However, as the team clearly have fight and desire in them to play for AN, if they get rid, do the players then down tools? Glad it's not my decision.
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Post by neddy on Oct 4, 2023 8:02:22 GMT
I don’t think any decent manager would take us on now with the injuries and lack of centre halves and striker would they?
We just have to dig in until January and see what we can attract both player and manager wise. As you say glad I’m not making the decisions.
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 4, 2023 8:04:19 GMT
The one thing that points away from that is the clear fight and commitment the team are showing Points haul so far is alarming Whether AN stays or is replaced staying up is the aim this season which is sad October 4th and our aim is to survive. Just not good enough - the manager was brought in on big money to get us challenging, we're a million miles off a year later. Let's just ignore the amount of injuries we've got, just played a team down from the Premiership with a depleted team and lost to an individual bit of class from a free kick. We should have had at least one penalty not to mention two good chances for Lowe to score. Just to clarify, given your stance, what is your answer, as in right now? |
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Post by Biblical on Oct 4, 2023 8:05:16 GMT
We've got relegation written all over us. I don’t think relegation is on the cards but I’m starting to think a bottom half finish looks likely. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 4, 2023 8:08:24 GMT
We've got relegation written all over us. I don’t think relegation is on the cards but I’m starting to think a bottom half finish looks likely. This. I think it’s highly unlikely we’ll go down. But I think between 18th and 14th is on the cards. |
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Post by bagnallboothen on Oct 4, 2023 8:08:25 GMT
October 4th and our aim is to survive. Just not good enough - the manager was brought in on big money to get us challenging, we're a million miles off a year later. Let's just ignore the amount of injuries we've got, just played a team down from the Premiership with a depleted team and lost to an individual bit of class from a free kick. We should have had at least one penalty not to mention two good chances for Lowe to score. Just to clarify, given your stance, what is your answer, as in right now? Why should people ignore things that have been happening for 6 years? Taking the argument that the manager can't answer for the last 6 years, why should people ignore things that have happened for the last 12 months? These sort of trends do not change over night. |
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Post by flea79 on Oct 4, 2023 8:08:39 GMT
We've got relegation written all over us. I don’t think relegation is on the cards but I’m starting to think a bottom half finish looks likely. this for me and that isnt good enough, the decision now is whether we limp on to the end of the season and look for signs of growth or just chop him now we have a group of talented players who are more capable than our position says |
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Post by pavel on Oct 4, 2023 8:14:06 GMT
October 4th and our aim is to survive. Just not good enough - the manager was brought in on big money to get us challenging, we're a million miles off a year later. Let's just ignore the amount of injuries we've got, just played a team down from the Premiership with a depleted team and lost to an individual bit of class from a free kick. We should have had at least one penalty not to mention two good chances for Lowe to score. Just to clarify, given your stance, what is your answer, as in right now? This is just what is trotted out after every defeat and, no offense, it’s nonsense. The reality is that we keep losing, Neil keeps on not picking his best team, tactics and shape are all over the place and have been since he arrived. His record is shocking and his home record is nothing short of abysmal. That’s the reality. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 8:14:21 GMT
Hmm, the only team that has lost more games than us is possibly the team that will break records for the least points in this division.
I think he probably needs to go after Leicester. We need some fresh ideas
Even last night, yes we're struggling with injuries but he's set the midfield up all wrong initially and at the end of the day, he's the manager, it's his fault he's relied on Wesley for our main striker, and didn't sign a recognized championship center back
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 8:16:59 GMT
It's 3 musketeers time , all for one and one for all .Everyone has to fight for each other and back up their team mate , be it pressing at one end of the pitch or defending at the other.
Flakey selfish players have to go . Team players are the order of the day .
That's Hoever and Laurent gone then . Fit or otherwise.
Let's play as a team and see where we get .
If we are disciplined and hard to play against then we have a lot more chance.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 4, 2023 8:17:01 GMT
The win at Bristol City has ensured he makes it beyond the international break.
And we've all basically baked in a 2 or 3-0 defeat at the weekend so it'd have to be utterly embarrassing to move the needle.
He's also got the injury situation as some mitigation, even if it it seems, at least to some degree, self-inflicted.
The fight in the last two games has definitely been there, and even though it's the minimum you should expect, it's still noteworthy.
The start to the season has been very, very disappointing overall - and we've just to got to hope we'll look a different animal once we have Bae, Burger, Vidigal and Mmaee firing.
But there's nothing really to suggest we will be at this point - it's all just wishcasting as we've been largely garbage this season - and last.
The games after the international break look horrible though, so it could get messy very quickly unless we get some players back and they hit the ground running.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 8:17:20 GMT
I lost my shit at 2 nil down Vs Bristol, but equally in the cold light of day I fear another managerial change will make things a lot worse in the short term at least.
I think the board have to be really careful here.
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Post by baconburger on Oct 4, 2023 8:22:13 GMT
Hmm, the only team that has lost more games than us is possibly the team that will break records for the least points in this division. I think he probably needs to go after Leicester. We need some fresh ideas Even last night, yes we're struggling with injuries but he's set the midfield up all wrong initially and at the end of the day, he's the manager, it's his fault he's relied on Wesley for our main striker, and didn't sign a recognized championship center back He did sign a recognised championship CB, two actually and one of them had a really decent game last night. Still happy with Wilmot and McNally if they can stay fit don’t know the extent of Wilmot’s injury. |
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Post by pavel on Oct 4, 2023 8:24:42 GMT
I lost my shit at 2 nil down Vs Bristol, but equally in the cold light of day I fear another managerial change will make things a lot worse in the short term at least. I think the board have to be really careful here. Depends if the board take takes the blinkers off and then makes a sensible, considered and progressive choice. But you’re right we have to be very, very careful here. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 8:26:09 GMT
Hmm, the only team that has lost more games than us is possibly the team that will break records for the least points in this division. I think he probably needs to go after Leicester. We need some fresh ideas Even last night, yes we're struggling with injuries but he's set the midfield up all wrong initially and at the end of the day, he's the manager, it's his fault he's relied on Wesley for our main striker, and didn't sign a recognized championship center back He did sign a recognised championship CB, two actually and one of them had a really decent game last night. Still happy with Wilmot and McNally if they can stay fit don’t know the extent of Wilmot’s injury. yes mcnally did well last night. But he's young and only has about twenty appearance at this level. Rose was a poor signing. Neglecting center back is what will cost him his job. We defended really poorly at Ipswich, Huddersfield and at home to hull and Preston in particular. If we had a decent back line we would be 4 points better off and we wouldn't be having these discussions |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 8:27:07 GMT
I lost my shit at 2 nil down Vs Bristol, but equally in the cold light of day I fear another managerial change will make things a lot worse in the short term at least. I think the board have to be really careful here. Depends if the board take takes the blinkers off and then makes a sensible, considered and progressive choice. But you’re right we have to be very, very careful here. I think the odds are very much stacked in favour of a fruit loop, bat shit mental appointment aren't they? I think hell would freeze over if it was a sensible, considered appointment. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 4, 2023 8:32:51 GMT
One thing is for sure
Neil has in no way taken us forward, quite the opposite.
Endless defeats and excuses, now referees, injuries etc from some. Bottom line is we were never going to score last night v an average side who were the only team to create chances and a victory v Bristol City doesn't paper over this shocking run of defeats. Stats and the table dont' lie, neither does Neil's record. Is that 14 defeats in 21 ? And some still burying their heads and telling us all will be ok
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Oct 4, 2023 8:33:15 GMT
He's got until Christmas, as if we're in the bottom 3, I'm not sure he'll necessarily be given more money.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 4, 2023 8:34:37 GMT
Teams who struggle to score goals and are likely to concede when the ball comes into their own half will struggle. Couple that with a manager who is reeling like a drunk from pub to pub with team selections and formations then we're in trouble. Harsh on drunks in pubs. They would have a better points return |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 4, 2023 9:04:52 GMT
I see the disappearing few have returned 🙄
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Oct 4, 2023 10:07:20 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 4, 2023 10:07:20 GMT
Let's just ignore the amount of injuries we've got, just played a team down from the Premiership with a depleted team and lost to an individual bit of class from a free kick. We should have had at least one penalty not to mention two good chances for Lowe to score. Just to clarify, given your stance, what is your answer, as in right now? This is just what is trotted out after every defeat and, no offense, it’s nonsense. The reality is that we keep losing, Neil keeps on not picking his best team, tactics and shape are all over the place and have been since he arrived. His record is shocking and his home record is nothing short of abysmal. That’s the reality. It's trotted out because it's right |
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 4, 2023 10:08:21 GMT
Let's just ignore the amount of injuries we've got, just played a team down from the Premiership with a depleted team and lost to an individual bit of class from a free kick. We should have had at least one penalty not to mention two good chances for Lowe to score. Just to clarify, given your stance, what is your answer, as in right now? Why should people ignore things that have been happening for 6 years? Taking the argument that the manager can't answer for the last 6 years, why should people ignore things that have happened for the last 12 months? These sort of trends do not change over night. You're dead right they don't, that's why we stick with a good manager, people need to get real |
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Post by Gawa on Oct 4, 2023 10:14:54 GMT
I thought all the injuries we had in the last few seasons was due to the players not being fit enough?
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