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Post by Jimm on Sept 27, 2023 21:52:31 GMT
Blaming Junho for their first goal, lol what a wanker
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 21:55:03 GMT
Blaming Junho for their first goal, lol what a wanker Has he really? If so, it looks like he is starting to play games with Martin and Jared after Martin claiming he's given him all the tools etc. This should be fun. I wonder how broken the club will end up when the Chairman decides to put his train set down and sort it out? |
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Post by pushon on Sept 27, 2023 21:55:32 GMT
Time 2 go š
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Post by Jimm on Sept 27, 2023 21:56:15 GMT
Blaming Junho for their first goal, lol what a wanker Has he really? If so, it looks like he is starting to play games with Martin and Jared after Martin claiming he's given him all the tools etc. This should be fun. I wonder how broken the club will end up when the Chairman decides to put his train set down and sort it out? Neil: If weāre being honest, for that first one, I don't think you really need to tell any player what you don't do when it's their free kick and not to kick the ball back to them when we're not set. If I need to set us up and go through that, then, wow. Thatās just a lapse in concentration in the game. That's all it is, you know. Itās a young lad that kicks it back to them and heās not really thinking about what he's doing, heās just thinking, thereās the ball, Iāll go and get into my position. But they're bright, theyāre Premier League players, they take it quickly, pass the ball and the next time the ball comes in our box, we're not set to defend the play. Thatās ultimately the turning point in the game. The first one is probably the most frustrating for me because we actually got the ball and kick it back to them while we are not even set to defend the next phase. Thatās certainly a learning curve for us. Itās those elements we need to do better. We need to be more difficult to play against in terms of the aspects when the ball is dead, we need to manage the game a bit better. Ultimately, that's what cost us the game. |
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Post by onionman on Sept 27, 2023 21:58:19 GMT
Has he really? If so, it looks like he is starting to play games with Martin and Jared after Martin claiming he's given him all the tools etc. This should be fun. I wonder how broken the club will end up when the Chairman decides to put his train set down and sort it out? Neil: If weāre being honest, for that first one, I don't think you really need to tell any player what you don't do when it's their free kick and not to kick the ball back to them when we're not set. If I need to set us up and go through that, then, wow. Thatās just a lapse in concentration in the game. That's all it is, you know. Itās a young lad that kicks it back to them and heās not really thinking about what he's doing, heās just thinking, thereās the ball, Iāll go and get into my position. But they're bright, theyāre Premier League players, they take it quickly, pass the ball and the next time the ball comes in our box, we're not set to defend the play. Thatās ultimately the turning point in the game. This is like Pulis complaining about Triggy and Ziggy. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 27, 2023 21:59:23 GMT
Has he really? If so, it looks like he is starting to play games with Martin and Jared after Martin claiming he's given him all the tools etc. This should be fun. I wonder how broken the club will end up when the Chairman decides to put his train set down and sort it out? Neil: If weāre being honest, for that first one, I don't think you really need to tell any player what you don't do when it's their free kick and not to kick the ball back to them when we're not set. If I need to set us up and go through that, then, wow. Thatās just a lapse in concentration in the game. That's all it is, you know. Itās a young lad that kicks it back to them and heās not really thinking about what he's doing, heās just thinking, thereās the ball, Iāll go and get into my position. But they're bright, theyāre Premier League players, they take it quickly, pass the ball and the next time the ball comes in our box, we're not set to defend the play. Thatās ultimately the turning point in the game. The first one is probably the most frustrating for me because we actually got the ball and kick it back to them while we are not even set to defend the next phase. Thatās certainly a learning curve for us. Itās those elements we need to do better. We need to be more difficult to play against in terms of the aspects when the ball is dead, we need to manage the game a bit better. Ultimately, that's what cost us the game. No need for that in the press. Say it to him privately. Besides, we still had ample opportunity to defend it. |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Sept 27, 2023 22:00:25 GMT
Tonight was always a little bit of a free hit for AN. I am not sure anyone really expected us to beat Bournemouth tonight (even with them making eight changes).
There are three massive league games coming up now against decent opposition. Somehow AN is going to have to spring a couple of decent results from somewhere.
A point against Bristal and a win against an out of sorts Southampton would help to buy him a little more time.
If he loses both of those games then we will be heading to (probably) top of the table Leicester with us already in the bottom three.
From there, it is hard to see how AN would be able to survive.
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Alex Neil
Sept 27, 2023 22:03:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 22:03:52 GMT
Nathan Jones lost 47.1 % of championship matches as Stoke manager.
Alex Neil 47.9 % .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 22:04:01 GMT
Has he really? If so, it looks like he is starting to play games with Martin and Jared after Martin claiming he's given him all the tools etc. This should be fun. I wonder how broken the club will end up when the Chairman decides to put his train set down and sort it out? Neil: If weāre being honest, for that first one, I don't think you really need to tell any player what you don't do when it's their free kick and not to kick the ball back to them when we're not set. If I need to set us up and go through that, then, wow. Thatās just a lapse in concentration in the game. That's all it is, you know. Itās a young lad that kicks it back to them and heās not really thinking about what he's doing, heās just thinking, thereās the ball, Iāll go and get into my position. But they're bright, theyāre Premier League players, they take it quickly, pass the ball and the next time the ball comes in our box, we're not set to defend the play. Thatās ultimately the turning point in the game. The first one is probably the most frustrating for me because we actually got the ball and kick it back to them while we are not even set to defend the next phase. Thatās certainly a learning curve for us. Itās those elements we need to do better. We need to be more difficult to play against in terms of the aspects when the ball is dead, we need to manage the game a bit better. Ultimately, that's what cost us the game. Oh dear. Taking swipes at the fans on Sunday and swipes at players tonight. It seems our squad is not very well coached and it seems a certain person can't accept he's the problem. Why always us? |
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Sept 27, 2023 22:06:07 GMT
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 27, 2023 22:06:07 GMT
Whatās Steve Bruce up to these days?
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Alex Neil
Sept 27, 2023 22:09:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 22:09:16 GMT
He has already lost an alarming 47.9 % of games as Stoke boss.
If he loses the next couple of games, he's going to be edging up towards 50 % !
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Alex Neil
Sept 27, 2023 22:11:07 GMT
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Post by Gods on Sept 27, 2023 22:11:07 GMT
Nathan Jones lost 47.1 % of championship matches as Stoke manager. Alex Neil 47.9 % . Goodness me. |
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Post by trincostokie on Sept 27, 2023 22:12:19 GMT
Not quite accurate...it's 11 losses, 3 draws and 5 wins in the last 19 since the beginning of April...take the 3 cup games out of the equation, and the very first game in the sequence (the 4-0 away win at Coventry) and the stats are 10 losses, 3 draws and 2 wins from the last 15 league games...9 points from a possible 45, or (shudder) 9 points from a third of a season's worth of games...that's not only relegation form, but cut adrift at the bottom and relegated by Mid-March cluster-fuck bad... |
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 27, 2023 22:13:22 GMT
I can't see a way out of this for him as we stand here today, I really can't. I'm also worried about not just who is coming in next, but also how long the ego of the owner will allow this to fester, and how deep we'll drop before he admits the manager he has chased for so long, and invested so much trust and faith in is nothing more than a below average Championship manager that not only hasn't got a clue how to get us out of this mess but has actively played a part in getting us into it. He left Nathan Jones in the dugout until we were virtually dead and buried. Yeah, JC can't really send for Michael O'Neil again, who himself is back at Nothern Ireland again, to dig us out of trouble. Or can he? No... But he could make a call for the Scotland national manager. Wouldn't be too shabby .. would it? |
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Alex Neil
Sept 27, 2023 22:16:04 GMT
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Post by peterthornesboots on Sept 27, 2023 22:16:04 GMT
9 points from a possible 45, or (shudder) 9 points from a third of a season's worth of games That is an absolutely horrific stat to be putting up on a Wednesday night! š |
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Sept 27, 2023 22:17:47 GMT
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 27, 2023 22:17:47 GMT
Nathan Jones lost 47.1 % of championship matches as Stoke manager. Alex Neil 47.9 % . Aside from the Sam Vokes signing, Iām not sure Mad Nathan was any worse than the tactical genius of Alex Neil. |
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Post by pavel on Sept 27, 2023 22:24:10 GMT
Has he really? If so, it looks like he is starting to play games with Martin and Jared after Martin claiming he's given him all the tools etc. This should be fun. I wonder how broken the club will end up when the Chairman decides to put his train set down and sort it out? Neil: If weāre being honest, for that first one, I don't think you really need to tell any player what you don't do when it's their free kick and not to kick the ball back to them when we're not set. If I need to set us up and go through that, then, wow. Thatās just a lapse in concentration in the game. That's all it is, you know. Itās a young lad that kicks it back to them and heās not really thinking about what he's doing, heās just thinking, thereās the ball, Iāll go and get into my position. But they're bright, theyāre Premier League players, they take it quickly, pass the ball and the next time the ball comes in our box, we're not set to defend the play. Thatās ultimately the turning point in the game. The first one is probably the most frustrating for me because we actually got the ball and kick it back to them while we are not even set to defend the next phase. Thatās certainly a learning curve for us. Itās those elements we need to do better. We need to be more difficult to play against in terms of the aspects when the ball is dead, we need to manage the game a bit better. Ultimately, that's what cost us the game. That's appalling management if true, hanging a young player out to dry in public, when a quiet word would do. I wouldn't expect that approach in Sunday league football. |
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Post by BuzzB on Sept 27, 2023 22:27:36 GMT
Theres losing at Bournemouth, a Premier League side, on the face of it 2-0 is no disgrace. Then theres losing at Bournemouth with not laying a glove on them. Last Saturday, 3-0 down we get a goal back on 75 mins, there should then be some urgency and effort to get another quick goal, but there was nowt! Slow lethargic crap with very little thinking never mind movement. The whole squad looks lost to death as to what their jobs are.
All very depressing really, this is the 6th season of it.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 27, 2023 22:31:23 GMT
Needs to go immediately.
Iād rather muddle through to the international break with a new manager so they can use the break in fixtures to mould this squad together rather than watch this absolute dullard stumble his way through even more complete shitshows.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 27, 2023 22:47:27 GMT
Whatās Steve Bruce up to these days? Well y,knaaaw - mmmmm cheesy chips ā¦.yum yum |
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Alex Neil
Sept 27, 2023 22:50:01 GMT
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Post by robinplumpton on Sept 27, 2023 22:50:01 GMT
āWe didnāt test the goalkeeper enoughā. Alex we had no shots on target, they could have played without a goalkeeper and still won
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Alex Neil
Sept 27, 2023 23:33:55 GMT
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Post by Gawa on Sept 27, 2023 23:33:55 GMT
I think he's gonna get manager of the month for October and turn it around. Just got a feeling.
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Sept 27, 2023 23:44:35 GMT
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Post by robstokie on Sept 27, 2023 23:44:35 GMT
Needs to go immediately. Iād rather muddle through to the international break with a new manager so they can use the break in fixtures to mould this squad together rather than watch this absolute dullard stumble his way through even more complete shitshows. Agree 100 percent, the guy is almost on par now to Nutty Nathan, and that's some achievement in a perverse sort of way. I would even say bring Ryan in as caretaker to at least try and get a reaction against Bristol and particularly Soton, and see Leicester as a free hit, and use that time to get the right man in place to come in ready for the international break. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 28, 2023 2:08:50 GMT
This squad is more suited to Nathan's style! šš¤š®š¤Ŗ
Best coach in Europe! š
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 28, 2023 7:21:21 GMT
There wasnāt one good reason to keep him at the end of last season. Given how much they'd invested in him, and sold him the summer rebuild as his big thing to get him out of Sunderland, realistically, I don't suppose there was any chance they'd bring out the axe if they had anything at all to cling to. And that freakish run of results in March was definitely something to cling to - and with the memory of that still only a month old, it was always going to be enough to see him into the rebuild summer. But the fact that run of 5-6 weeks is such a colossal outlier was always going to lead to immediate problems this season if we started like this. And 9 points from 15 games, with all the completely arbitrary nature of that span of games and mitigation you can offer is real hair-on-fire stuff. Blackpool have got that many Championship points over the same time period in 7 games. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 28, 2023 7:24:19 GMT
I think he's gonna get manager of the month for October and turn it around. Just got a feeling. Quite the turnaround that'd be š I hope you're right chief I really do. I'm off to listen to Hot Chocolate.......I believe in miracles, you sexy thang š |
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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 28, 2023 7:35:13 GMT
Just watched the extended highlights from Youtube and no way the first goal was Junhos fault. He switched off like everybody else but it was not his fault.
Bit cheap from Neil to blame a foreign guy who can't really defend himself.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Sept 28, 2023 7:35:33 GMT
āWe didnāt test the goalkeeper enoughā. Alex we had no shots on target, they could have played without a goalkeeper and still won Arguably the saddest (and truest) comment I've seen. |
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Post by stiggerstackle on Sept 28, 2023 7:38:24 GMT
Has he really? If so, it looks like he is starting to play games with Martin and Jared after Martin claiming he's given him all the tools etc. This should be fun. I wonder how broken the club will end up when the Chairman decides to put his train set down and sort it out? Neil: If weāre being honest, for that first one, I don't think you really need to tell any player what you don't do when it's their free kick and not to kick the ball back to them when we're not set. If I need to set us up and go through that, then, wow. Thatās just a lapse in concentration in the game. That's all it is, you know. Itās a young lad that kicks it back to them and heās not really thinking about what he's doing, heās just thinking, thereās the ball, Iāll go and get into my position. But they're bright, theyāre Premier League players, they take it quickly, pass the ball and the next time the ball comes in our box, we're not set to defend the play. Thatās ultimately the turning point in the game. The first one is probably the most frustrating for me because we actually got the ball and kick it back to them while we are not even set to defend the next phase. Thatās certainly a learning curve for us. Itās those elements we need to do better. We need to be more difficult to play against in terms of the aspects when the ball is dead, we need to manage the game a bit better. Ultimately, that's what cost us the game. Wow, so that's Wilmott under the bus on Sunday and Junho under the bus last night - what's he playing at? He's just making life even harder for himself - nobody's going to want to play for him! |
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Post by robrigo on Sept 28, 2023 7:39:46 GMT
Iāve got to say Iām absolutely gutted at the realisation that this season looks like itās going nowhere already. We are at the arse end of September and look at us already. I allowed myself to get swept up in excited hysteria as we announced signing after signing and once again I find myself disappointed at the club.
Now, thereās still time to gel. Thereās time to make a decent fist of finishing mid table. Thereās even time to make the play offs but to me it looks like this manager has gone. If so, where the hell do we go from here?
Iām sick to the back teeth of this club underperforming. For me Neil is fast running out of time. I thought he was the man to get us going again but once again I find my faith evaporating at a rate of knots.
This underperformance has to stop.
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