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Post by chuckrocky on Sept 24, 2023 14:26:41 GMT
He’s completely lost the plot this season. After every game he’s talking about how we changed things because of the way the opposition play. At Huddersfield he even changed our set up during the warm up because they lined up differently than he was expecting.
I’ve just seen that after the game today he said that he set us up like that today because Coventry set up like that against Hull.
We’ve recruited for 4-3-3, so fucking play it and let the opposition worry about what we’re going to do.
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 14:27:00 GMT
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Post by Gawa on Sept 24, 2023 14:27:00 GMT
It feels like 2019 all over again. Only one man can save Stoke now.
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Post by neddy on Sept 24, 2023 14:27:50 GMT
I just don’t get why he persists with 532 when we sold the left wing back…..it’s madness!
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 14:28:56 GMT
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Post by bigvern on Sept 24, 2023 14:28:56 GMT
Isn't Pej a blackbelt in judo? Send him in the dressing room to sort Neil out.
Or we could send in Nello who's a blackbelt in ludo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 14:31:56 GMT
He's got very little way of currency in the bank when he's bollocked on all last season and the summer about us not having any wingers or game changers, only to sign a bus load of them and revert to 532.
Sadly he has the look of a man who has completely run out of idea's only having just been given a full squad of footballers full of them. It's a very precarious position we're in now. Let it rot much further and we're heading to League One no doubt regardless of who comes in. Equally, bring the wrong man in to replace him and we are heading in exactly the same direction circa 97/98.
It shouldn't be this hard, it really shouldn't.
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 14:35:09 GMT
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Post by StokieSideAss on Sept 24, 2023 14:35:09 GMT
Could we poach Rosenior from Hull?? Looks to know what he wants from players and has been well thought of since his assistant derby days. He couldn't do any worse!
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 14:35:18 GMT
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Post by gaznandi on Sept 24, 2023 14:35:18 GMT
Keeps mentioning the way we set up, the way we set up.
Is it illegal to change tact and personnel in a game to set up different if it's clearly not working?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 24, 2023 14:36:19 GMT
He's got very little way of currency in the bank when he's bollocked on all last season and the summer about us not having any wingers or game changers, only to sign a bus load of them and revert to 532. Sadly he has the look of a man who has completely run out of idea's only having just been given a full squad of footballers full of them. It's a very precarious position we're in now. Let it rot much further and we're heading to League One no doubt regardless of who comes in. Equally, bring the wrong man in to replace him and we are heading in exactly the same direction circa 97/98. It shouldn't be this hard, it really shouldn't. The seeming lack of urgency to sign defenders was when my alarm bells started to ring, just a shame I'm being proved right. That's before we get to his total lunatic team selections.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 24, 2023 14:37:23 GMT
Put this on the matchday thread but genuinely want to know what the answer is.
What do we actually do in training all week?
We can’t defend, the passing is crap and attack is just completely disjointed.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 24, 2023 14:38:28 GMT
Said all along he will give the Board a decision to make with his own gross incompetence by the end of oct and results will make it for them .
id actually not be surprised now if JC pulls the trigger earlier than that now , the great difficulty of course is Jared the tinder swindler and captain smith-Martin do they go as well as they surely Should . Heard an interesting story today about the academy “ beep beep “ ’ watch this space , all is not well in the camp for sure, won’t be long before the rats turn on one another .
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 24, 2023 14:38:36 GMT
Put this on the matchday thread but genuinely want to know what the answer is. What do we actually do in training all week? We can’t defend, the passing is crap and attack is just completely disjointed. Our shit defence must make our attacking players look like Man City in training.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 24, 2023 14:38:37 GMT
Anyone else get the feeling he's blaming players in his interview, this is only going one way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 14:40:31 GMT
Anyone else get the feeling he's blaming players in his interview, this is only going one way. The players told everyone today what they thought of him. That interview was dreadful and every bit a "I can't manage this group of players, they aren't doing what I tell them to do" as you are likely to find anywhere.
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 14:41:16 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Sept 24, 2023 14:41:16 GMT
his days are numbered
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 24, 2023 14:46:48 GMT
Need to get him gone sharpish whilst there aren’t too many attractive options for out of work managers. Saints are getting restless and a premier league club will pull a trigger soon. We need to be first out the blocks here and get first dibs before the manager merrygoround gets into full speed.
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Post by mrnovember on Sept 24, 2023 14:51:10 GMT
Not long before he turns on the fans I reckon. Or calls Bojan a twat or something.
The only ways to get sacked from as Stoke manager and pick up that sweet sweet pay out.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 24, 2023 14:56:50 GMT
He had a good record against Stoke when he was at Preston but now he's with us we can barely beat anyone including bloody preston. Its weird. Maybe its the club itself. No identity. Nothing that we are known for. Toothless we are absolutely toothless.
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 14:59:19 GMT
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Post by potters11 on Sept 24, 2023 14:59:19 GMT
How many managerial cycles do people think it’ll be before Ryan Shawcross is seriously considered? Will he be talked about during the next appointment process?
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 15:01:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 15:01:45 GMT
It speaks volumes I think, when you can churn a whole first-team squad and at best, keep turning out the same turgid dross, week after week; arguably going backwards.
The players have changed. The performances, tactics and results haven't.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 24, 2023 15:03:00 GMT
Anyone else get the feeling he's blaming players in his interview, this is only going one way. The players told everyone today what they thought of him. That interview was dreadful and every bit a "I can't manage this group of players, they aren't doing what I tell them to do" as you are likely to find anywhere. "That game is as poor tactically as I think we've been, I didn't think we fully committed to how we wanted to play and set up". His own words. So not only were the tactics wrong the players couldn't or wouldn't play to them! So you either don't know what you are doing tactically or Del Boy Martin bought you a load of duds which don't fit the tactics blueprint. Which is it Alex?
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 15:04:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 15:04:22 GMT
The players told everyone today what they thought of him. That interview was dreadful and every bit a "I can't manage this group of players, they aren't doing what I tell them to do" as you are likely to find anywhere. "That game is as poor tactically as I think we've been, I didn't think we fully committed to how we wanted to play and set up". His own words. So not only were the tactics wrong the players couldn't or wouldn't play to them! So you either don't know what you are doing tactically or Del Boy Martin bought you a load of duds which don't fit the tactics blueprint. Which is it Alex? Or - I asked them to play a certain way, but the players don't seem to believe in it. That's the way it looked to me.
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 15:07:12 GMT
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Post by matelot1996 on Sept 24, 2023 15:07:12 GMT
Keeps mentioning the way we set up, the way we set up. Is it illegal to change tact and personnel in a game to set up different if it's clearly not working? It’s obvious Campbell is his favourite. Maybe they can both fuck off in the same Taxi? Get Rid
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 24, 2023 15:07:20 GMT
"That game is as poor tactically as I think we've been, I didn't think we fully committed to how we wanted to play and set up". His own words. So not only were the tactics wrong the players couldn't or wouldn't play to them!
So you either don't know what you are doing tactically or Del Boy Martin bought you a load of duds which don't fit the tactics blueprint. Which is it Alex? Or - I asked them to play a certain way, but the players don't seem to believe in it. That's the way it looked to me. 1 vote for wouldn't!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 24, 2023 15:07:22 GMT
We tried to press but their fullbacks were free every time so Hull played around us, that was a tactical issue and he did nothing to change it.
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 15:07:29 GMT
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Post by matelot1996 on Sept 24, 2023 15:07:29 GMT
Keeps mentioning the way we set up, the way we set up. Is it illegal to change tact and personnel in a game to set up different if it's clearly not working? It’s obvious Campbell is his favourite. Maybe they can both fuck off in the same Taxi? Get Rid
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 15:14:18 GMT
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Post by DC1863 on Sept 24, 2023 15:14:18 GMT
Bristol City - A Southampton - H Leicester - A
Three more league games before the international break, how many points do we think we get from those?
If it's 0, do the board act or not?
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 15:14:58 GMT
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Post by spirered on Sept 24, 2023 15:14:58 GMT
That really was a shambolic performance. Tactically Neil is way out of his depth and to have no solid centre halves and no real goalscorers in the team is a fking disgrace
And my pint is normally half full 😭
Sort it out or FO !
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 15:19:59 GMT
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Post by jontimmis on Sept 24, 2023 15:19:59 GMT
Another game down and I don’t know what we are trying to be as a team. The back 3 centre halves have zero pace, you need some pace in that’s system because of the space both inside and outside of you as a player. That showed both for wilmot and mcnally, (he is awful). The manager seems to have got Gooch in to play in this wide right back role, so where does he go if Hoever is starting? I’m really struggling with his selections and his formation and today was a shambles looked devoid of ideas. I’m getting a bit sick of hearing the same quotes from the manager at the moment.
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Alex Neil
Sept 24, 2023 15:33:04 GMT
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Post by onionman on Sept 24, 2023 15:33:04 GMT
They’ll surely move away from these dour British twats? Everyone a carbon copy of the cunt he just replaced. Just someone without the word Neil in his name would be a start - unfortunately there’s still two more of them on the shortlist.
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Post by onionman on Sept 24, 2023 15:35:51 GMT
He's got very little way of currency in the bank when he's bollocked on all last season and the summer about us not having any wingers or game changers, only to sign a bus load of them and revert to 532. Sadly he has the look of a man who has completely run out of idea's only having just been given a full squad of footballers full of them. It's a very precarious position we're in now. Let it rot much further and we're heading to League One no doubt regardless of who comes in. Equally, bring the wrong man in to replace him and we are heading in exactly the same direction circa 97/98. It shouldn't be this hard, it really shouldn't. This is the weird thing. Last season he kept complaining that the squad had been built for 3-5-2. Then he goes out and signs 17 players, gets rid of the only wingback in the squad … and decides to settle on 3-5-2 after all. He’s acting like a manager who has inherited someone else’s squad and needs a window to bring in his own players to fit his own system.
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