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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 24, 2023 13:14:18 GMT
I think we might at least consider a foreign option now. It was John that wanted QSF.
But there's always the danger you could end up with some chancer of the type that Sheff Weds normally end up with.
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Sept 24, 2023 13:14:48 GMT
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Post by Los Alfareros on Sept 24, 2023 13:14:48 GMT
His record is abysmal, we have to sack him.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 24, 2023 13:15:44 GMT
I left at 3. 0 Would have left at HT but it was pissing down I very very rarely leave early Changed my mind Would be moving the manager on now - don't think the board will though, not for some time anyway - Chris Wilder looks about the best we could get right now Wayne Rooney maybe I don't know who tbh Pretty much anyone would be no worse surely.....I hate to say it but I'm starting to hate this club or.more accurately what the club has become- we need to get off our knees both literally and figuratively and get some fight back in our bellies- we're fast becoming the patsy team where everyone in the league would actually fancy it on a cold wet Tuesday night in Stoke as its become one of the easiest sources of away points to be had pretty much anywhere. Fucking grow a pair Coates ....
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 24, 2023 13:15:52 GMT
Why does he keep playing 3 at the back when we don't have defenders who are comfortable ewith that formation. Wilmot played his best games last season in a back 4, and we have looked so vulnerable with this formation in almost every game. Could we please play 4 at the back and with fullbacks able to defend! The only player in our defence today who was OK was Gooch, despite of own goal. The other 3 and Johnson were all terrible in my opinion!
.......................Travers....................... Junior...........Rose..........Wilmot.......Gooch ................Pearson........Burger............... Haksa...................Johnson...............Vidigal ........................Wesley.......................
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Post by glpotter on Sept 24, 2023 13:16:50 GMT
Why does he keep playing 3 at the back when we don't have defenders who are comfortable ewith that formation. Wilmot played his best games last season in a back 4, and we have looked so vulnerable with this formation in almost every game. Could we please play 4 at the back and with fullbacks able to defend! The only player in our defence today who was OK was Gooch, despite of own goal. The other 3 and Johnson were all terrible in my opinion! .......................Travers....................... Junior...........Rose..........Campbell.......Gooch ................Pearson........Burger............... Haksa...................Johnson...............Vidigal ........................Wesley....................... Not sure id play Campbell at CB
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 24, 2023 13:17:29 GMT
For once the board cannot dither. We’ve seen time and again what happens….just get rid tonight and get Colin in.
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Post by rowbeartoe on Sept 24, 2023 13:18:28 GMT
I believe Alex Neil is friends or acquaintances with Ricky Martin who you'd expect would be the one to be seen to explore other options if we were to pull the plug but how do you ask a man to look for alternatives for his mate?
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Post by mrnovember on Sept 24, 2023 13:18:37 GMT
I think it's time isn't it. Two or three freebies for a new manager before the next international break.
A new manager would have a litany of problems to address of course so we are we likely to see the much sought after new manager bounce? It seems fanciful when you consider:
- The problems on the whole left side of our defence. It is basically a sticking job. - We only have one or two players that look a likely source of goals. - Our captain is a non entity who roams about the pitch like an uninvited ghoul. - Injuries. We keep collecting them. - We're at least three months from being able to address any of these issues through recruitment.
Notwithstanding, I think he should be sacked today.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 24, 2023 13:19:53 GMT
I don't think Martin is the decision-maker in that sense, is he?
It'll come down to Coates. And, despite him being close to MON, he knifed him in the end
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Sept 24, 2023 13:20:40 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 24, 2023 13:20:40 GMT
He sounds a broken man in this sky interview.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 13:21:10 GMT
I absolutely dread who's next in the electric chair. Infact, I actually perversely can't wait to see who the incompetent one reaches for next...
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Post by warringtonstokie on Sept 24, 2023 13:21:21 GMT
What we need is a system based manager for the long term. We’ve assembled a decent squad of young players that would all benefit from having a discernible style or identity, just like Hull had today. Alex Neil isn’t it.
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Post by matelot1996 on Sept 24, 2023 13:21:36 GMT
JC is not a decision maker. He is the son of a Billionaire Owner pretending to be in charge.
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Post by st3mark on Sept 24, 2023 13:21:57 GMT
I know emotions are a bit high after a loss as poor as that at home but I actually think I might be done with him as well. Problem I've got is that I've got no idea who to replace him with. Part of me thinks a foreign manager could understand the diverse squad we've cobbled together rather than another "gravy and chips" British type that we always seem to go for. Feels like we've been here before far too many times in a reasonably short space of time. I hate repeatedly swapping managers. In my experience perseverance worked with Gudjon after a couple of failed play off attempts and perseverance worked with TP when a lot of fans didn't buy into him. But the difference is they kept us at the right end of the table even when they were failing. That today has pissed me right off. When he took Burger off instead of Laurent who has been wank for a month I felt like smashing my own face off the floor. A lot of the time I feel like the tactics were right but the players let us down. Today I feel like it was both, wrong tactics from him and Wilmot, Rose and Mcnally would have looked safer wearing suicide vests than stoke kits.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 24, 2023 13:23:54 GMT
It's all data and spreadsheets. This approach to everything has messed up many things in society. He needs to look at what's happening in front of him, not a list of numbers on the screen.
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Sept 24, 2023 13:24:08 GMT
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Post by Wizbit on Sept 24, 2023 13:24:08 GMT
Id go all out for Potter a pipe dream i know but id pay him waht he wants to get him and i have always thought Neil would be decent but today was shambolic
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Sept 24, 2023 13:24:38 GMT
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Post by northernstokie on Sept 24, 2023 13:24:38 GMT
Let's face it he's not going anywhere yet is he
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Sept 24, 2023 13:25:32 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 24, 2023 13:25:32 GMT
Problem I've got is that I've got no idea who to replace him with. Part of me thinks a foreign manager could understand the diverse squad we've cobbled together rather than another "gravy and chips" British type that we always seem to go for. Feels like we've been here before far too many times in a reasonably short space of time. I hate repeatedly swapping managers. In my experience perseverance worked with Gudjon after a couple of failed play off attempts and perseverance worked with TP when a lot of fans didn't buy into him. But the difference is they kept us at the right end of the table even when they were failing. That today has pissed me right off. When he took Burger off instead of Laurent who has been wank for a month I felt like smashing my own face off the floor. A lot of the time I feel like the tactics were right but the players let us down. Today I feel like it was both, wrong tactics from him and Wilmot, Rose and Mcnally would have looked safer wearing suicide vests than stoke kits. Me too but this hasn't worked since day 1 and getting worse. The longer we put it off, the harder it will get to pick this season up
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Sept 24, 2023 13:25:32 GMT
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Post by coldtuesdaynight on Sept 24, 2023 13:25:32 GMT
I think we might at least consider a foreign option now. It was John that wanted QSF. But there's always the danger you could end up with some chancer of the type that Sheff Weds normally end up with. I’d be very surprised if we were casting our net far and wide for players, but decided it was a ludicrous thing to do for managers. Fingers crossed the next manager is a more inspired choice than Neil F****** Warnock.
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Sept 24, 2023 13:25:35 GMT
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Post by theporcelainpele on Sept 24, 2023 13:25:35 GMT
I said I’d give him 10 games this season after the terrible offering back end of last season. He has to go now! That today was absolutely abysmal football management.
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Sept 24, 2023 13:25:48 GMT
He must go. The fans have turned and that only ever ends one way.
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Sept 24, 2023 13:26:40 GMT
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Post by milky on Sept 24, 2023 13:26:40 GMT
I absolutely dread who's next in the electric chair. Infact, I actually perversely can't wait to see who the incompetent one reaches for next... I would be Chris Wilder's gig should he want it . Absolutely guaranteed.
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 24, 2023 13:26:58 GMT
He sounds a broken man in this sky interview. Whilst I don’t doubt this group of players are fast becoming as gutless and mistake ridden as their predecessors, he picks them so has to be man enough to take the crap. Everyone can see what will happen every game before the whistle is blown…why can’t he, he’s the so called professional.
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Post by swinny on Sept 24, 2023 13:28:05 GMT
Legitimately thought Neil would push us on and we'd look like a competent play off team.
As is, we're fucking gross again and we're declining further than when O'Neil was in charge. We'll be relegated under this bloke no question. Didn't think it could get worse after lastly season but we're absolutely rank.
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Sept 24, 2023 13:29:53 GMT
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Post by st3mark on Sept 24, 2023 13:29:53 GMT
I hate repeatedly swapping managers. In my experience perseverance worked with Gudjon after a couple of failed play off attempts and perseverance worked with TP when a lot of fans didn't buy into him. But the difference is they kept us at the right end of the table even when they were failing. That today has pissed me right off. When he took Burger off instead of Laurent who has been wank for a month I felt like smashing my own face off the floor. A lot of the time I feel like the tactics were right but the players let us down. Today I feel like it was both, wrong tactics from him and Wilmot, Rose and Mcnally would have looked safer wearing suicide vests than stoke kits. Me too but this hasn't worked since day 1 and getting worse. The longer we put it off, the harder it will get to pick this season up I refuse to defend him today. I think the board will stick with him a while but I think if he loses the next match as well then he's fair game.
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Sept 24, 2023 13:33:03 GMT
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 24, 2023 13:33:03 GMT
The clock's ticking now big time. Just feel so empty after watching that. It's hard to predict what Peter and John are privately thinking. Nobody really saw MON going after 5 games last year. Neil Out season is properly open now though. He's not giving anyone any belief he knows what he's doing and if results go as badly as they could, he'll be struggling to make it to Halloween I would love to sit Jared 'Moneyball' Dublin down and see his honest opinion on Neil. Brighton had their ducks in a row and same as palyers they had a world class manager lined up based on numbers when most people wouldn't have heard from of him. Same as the players I hope we are putting the same effort into the management recruitment.
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Sept 24, 2023 13:33:40 GMT
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 24, 2023 13:33:40 GMT
The clock's ticking now big time. Just feel so empty after watching that. It's hard to predict what Peter and John are privately thinking. Nobody really saw MON going after 5 games last year. Neil Out season is properly open now though. He's not giving anyone any belief he knows what he's doing and if results go as badly as they could, he'll be struggling to make it to Halloween I would love to sit Jared 'Moneyball' Dublin down and see his honest opinion on Neil. Brighton had their ducks in a row and same as palyers they had a world class manager lined up based on numbers when most people wouldn't have heard of him. Same as the players I hope we are putting the same effort into the management recruitment.
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Sept 24, 2023 13:33:48 GMT
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Post by 1863 on Sept 24, 2023 13:33:48 GMT
I think times up. Inexcusable to play 5 at the back today. The Campbell for Vidigal sub was insane, gave us no out ball at all. Which was obvious for everyone to see. I'm at a loss as to what he's thinking. He obviously doesn't have confidence in his own squad or tactics. And it's mutual... BONE IDLE ********
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Sept 24, 2023 13:34:09 GMT
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Post by greenhoff on Sept 24, 2023 13:34:09 GMT
If he's sacked tonight he can have no complaints. His record since he joined is absolutely dreadful. IMO we are delaying the inevitable. He won't do anything with us. He's chopping and changing miles too often. Subs before half time smack of desperation. He needs to go.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 24, 2023 13:34:48 GMT
When you're in the shit, you go back to basics and put round pegs in round holes, AN has done the complete opposite. Nobody who's truly in their right mind picks the side he did today and makes the awful substitutions he did.
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