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Post by shrewspotter on Dec 9, 2023 22:07:19 GMT
Just don't think we need to sell just get rid of the chairman and appoint someone who can run a football club There is another common factor? Stoke City’s notoriously fickle fans! fickle, are you having a laugh We are 2 places above the bottom 3 with dogshit sides above us, playing dross football, back 4 have mistakes in them, don't create chances and strikers are shot shy |
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Post by pb1863 on Dec 9, 2023 22:09:38 GMT
It’s the hope & inconsistency that kills you supporting Stoke (for over 50 years).Losing to the teams below you & beating the teams above you. After hammering Rotherham in game 1, I did think this could be a fresh start and exciting times ahead. Let’s hope It could still be.
My post below a few weeks ago:
“QPR, Plymouth & Sheff Wed. Taking nothing for granted but it should be 9 points and I’ll be happy with 7. Anything less than 6 and serious questions have to be asked”
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Dec 9, 2023 22:11:25 GMT
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Post by george2again on Dec 9, 2023 22:11:25 GMT
If we didn’t have the Swansea fixture on Tuesday , I think he might have gone tomorrow. Position now untenable. Win lose or draw on Tuesday he has to go. Just for once let’s hope the Coates clan have someone ready to run not the normal draw out affair where we get no points. Not sure if he would be gettable but I would go for Lampard. Good contacts and gets players to come and play for him.
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Dec 9, 2023 22:11:46 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 9, 2023 22:11:46 GMT
We have lost to QPR and now Sheff Wed, simply unacceptable and the nature of today's limp performance means he has to go, where we go from here, heaven only knows.
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Post by jontimmis on Dec 9, 2023 22:18:43 GMT
For me, the fact that we have lost the last 3 against teams we need/mudt be picking up points against sums up stoke city.
We are such a charity case, it’s getting pathetic.
I’m surprised Neil wasn’t relieved of his duties after the game.
We are in a relegation battle. Simple
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Post by wakeypotter on Dec 9, 2023 22:21:22 GMT
Just don't think we need to sell just get rid of the chairman and appoint someone who can run a football club There is another common factor? Stoke City’s notoriously fickle fans! Your just a fucking wind up merchant or a idiot |
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Post by Goonie on Dec 9, 2023 22:24:51 GMT
Has he gone yet?
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Dec 9, 2023 22:32:19 GMT
Just don't think we need to sell just get rid of the chairman and appoint someone who can run a football club There is another common factor? Stoke City’s notoriously fickle fans! If anyone wanted absolute proof that you're either a complete moron or a WUM, here it is. |
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Dec 9, 2023 22:51:02 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 9, 2023 22:51:02 GMT
Another manager whose career we've ruined. It's uncanny.
Makes you realise what a good job Pulis did at this place. And indeed Hughes for a few years until the ropey transfers kicked in.
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Dec 9, 2023 23:03:39 GMT
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Post by march4 on Dec 9, 2023 23:03:39 GMT
There is another common factor? Stoke City’s notoriously fickle fans! It’s not fickle to be in decline for 7 years Get a fucking grip We had a reputation for fickleness 50 years and we even hounded Waddo and TP out of their jobs. It’s the fans who need to get a grip. A little bit of self awareness is needed. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Dec 9, 2023 23:08:34 GMT
It’s interesting when you look at Bournemouth and Villa what a difference a good manager can make.
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Post by jay1610 on Dec 9, 2023 23:12:53 GMT
It’s not fickle to be in decline for 7 years Get a fucking grip We had a reputation for fickleness 50 years and we even hounded Waddo and TP out of their jobs. It’s the fans who need to get a grip. A little bit of self awareness is needed. Is it fickle to point out that things are not working? Name a club whose fans do not? Can’t comment on Waddington, but we *were* backsliding under TP in 2013 and the managerial change heralded a period of huge improvement over the next 3 years. So not sure I get your point? |
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Dec 9, 2023 23:14:33 GMT
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Post by march4 on Dec 9, 2023 23:14:33 GMT
There is another common factor? Stoke City’s notoriously fickle fans! If anyone wanted absolute proof that you're either a complete moron or a WUM, here it is. On the contrary, we’ve been enormously fickle since I started attending in the 50s. We hounded Waddo and TP out of the club. The list of boo boys who’ve suffered our bile is almost endless - players we’ve just taken a dislike to for unknown reasons. Why was abuse hurled at Jimmy Greenhoff for years? Roy Vernon, David Herd, Peter Dobing, etc, etc. Lee Chapman was one of our most successful strikers and a local lad and we battered him. It might be painful for some of you but we have a role in all of this too. What are we going to do next? - hound the Coates family out and end up in non-league? We are the biggest constant factor in this demise and yet in the good times we are a huge factor in our success. I would suggest that us the very definition of fickle. And when you hurl personal abuse at anyone you’ve just lost the argument. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 9, 2023 23:15:14 GMT
It’s interesting when you look at Bournemouth and Villa what a difference a good manager can make. Took a little while st Bournemouth but your 100% spot in the moral is we need to punch above our weight with the next appointment it’s the most important in the club |
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Dec 9, 2023 23:16:36 GMT
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Post by march4 on Dec 9, 2023 23:16:36 GMT
We had a reputation for fickleness 50 years and we even hounded Waddo and TP out of their jobs. It’s the fans who need to get a grip. A little bit of self awareness is needed. Is it fickle to point out that things are not working? Name a club whose fans do not? Can’t comment on Waddington, but we *were* backsliding under TP in 2013 and the managerial change heralded a period of huge improvement over the next 3 years. So not sure I get your point? What did Jimmy Greenhoff do wrong or Peter Dobing or Lee Chapman? There are 100s of these poor souls. |
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Post by Waggy on Dec 9, 2023 23:19:17 GMT
Is it fickle to point out that things are not working? Name a club whose fans do not? Can’t comment on Waddington, but we *were* backsliding under TP in 2013 and the managerial change heralded a period of huge improvement over the next 3 years. So not sure I get your point? What did Jimmy Greenhoff do wrong or Peter Dobing or Lee Chapman? There are 100s of these poor souls. We went downhill rapidly after both left us??? |
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Post by jay1610 on Dec 9, 2023 23:21:41 GMT
Is it fickle to point out that things are not working? Name a club whose fans do not? Can’t comment on Waddington, but we *were* backsliding under TP in 2013 and the managerial change heralded a period of huge improvement over the next 3 years. So not sure I get your point? What did Jimmy Greenhoff do wrong or Peter Dobing or Lee Chapman? There are 100s of these poor souls. I’m not saying there are no examples of unwarranted/unfair criticism. But are we any worse than other clubs? I think most clubs have a section of the fanbase that get vocal after a run of shit performances. It’s not for me, but I get it. Arsenal fans have jeered plenty of players and managers over the last decade, as have Man Utd fans. Villa fans have openly revolted under several managers - but they’re doing pretty well under a coach who can actually coach. Are their fans a problem too? |
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Dec 9, 2023 23:29:22 GMT
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Post by march4 on Dec 9, 2023 23:29:22 GMT
What did Jimmy Greenhoff do wrong or Peter Dobing or Lee Chapman? There are 100s of these poor souls. I’m not saying there are no examples of unwarranted/unfair criticism. But are we any worse than other clubs? I think most clubs have a section of the fanbase that get vocal after a run of shit performances. It’s not for me, but I get it. Arsenal fans have jeered plenty of players and managers over the last decade, as have Man Utd fans. Villa fans have openly revolted under several managers - but they’re doing pretty well under a coach who can actually coach. Are their fans a problem too? You are of course correct, but our reputation for fickleness has followed us for decades. It’s a Potteries thing to think we are unworthy and everyone else is better than us. |
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Dec 9, 2023 23:29:59 GMT
What did Jimmy Greenhoff do wrong or Peter Dobing or Lee Chapman? There are 100s of these poor souls. I’m not saying there are no examples of unwarranted/unfair criticism. But are we any worse than other clubs? I think most clubs have a section of the fanbase that get vocal after a run of shit performances. It’s not for me, but I get it. Arsenal fans have jeered plenty of players and managers over the last decade, as have Man Utd fans. Villa fans have openly revolted under several managers - but they’re doing pretty well under a coach who can actually coach. Are their fans a problem too? Wasn't Dean Smith doing pretty well at Villa too when they sacked him for Gerrard? That looked like a mistake but Emery was clearly a great choice after that. Dean Smith anyone!? |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Dec 9, 2023 23:33:22 GMT
Just don't think we need to sell just get rid of the chairman and appoint someone who can run a football club There is another common factor? Stoke City’s notoriously fickle fans! Speaking as a “fickle fan”. SCFC has been in my blood since 1961, I’ve been a ST Holder since 1974, I’v travelled over Europe to watch them, I’ve made significant life concessions to make sure “I got to the game, and I’m currently trying to indoctrinate my grand children to follow in their granddads footsteps. Being only one from collective of the “Stoke City’s notoriously fickle fans” club tell me if my “expectations are unfair/unrealistic to; 1. Walk away from the game and whatever the result win/draw/lose be able say “I enjoyed that” 2. Watch a collective effort from the players to achieve 1 above 3. Witness a club/team identify to be proud of 4. Witness continual improvement For varying reasons none (or very few) of the above have been evidenced since relegation.and our start in the Championship in 2018. Am I being over critical to suggest that we have at least found consistency, unfortunately that consistency can be labelled “failure” which is factual or am I being unrealistic and therefore fall perfectly into the description of “fickle” by daring to have such an opinion? Perhaps we have a difference of opinion of what a supporter should think/day. If that’s the case you’re entitled to yours as I am mine and others who may be fickle!! |
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Dec 9, 2023 23:38:36 GMT
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Post by milky on Dec 9, 2023 23:38:36 GMT
Anyone who still thinks this manager deserves another game in charge is an utter bellend .
It's really that simple.
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Post by jhtstokie on Dec 9, 2023 23:40:30 GMT
0 points from Plymouth, Sheff Wed and QPR😂
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Dec 9, 2023 23:41:33 GMT
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Post by citynickscfc on Dec 9, 2023 23:41:33 GMT
I’m not saying there are no examples of unwarranted/unfair criticism. But are we any worse than other clubs? I think most clubs have a section of the fanbase that get vocal after a run of shit performances. It’s not for me, but I get it. Arsenal fans have jeered plenty of players and managers over the last decade, as have Man Utd fans. Villa fans have openly revolted under several managers - but they’re doing pretty well under a coach who can actually coach. Are their fans a problem too? Wasn't Dean Smith doing pretty well at Villa too when they sacked him for Gerrard? That looked like a mistake but Emery was clearly a great choice after that. Dean Smith anyone!? Yeah I don't see why not. Managers come and go, you shouldn't be the entire club around them, that's outdated. Sadly we do tha, and that's why we are a basket case club even if we don't sack managers every week. I mean I would rather be in Watfords position than ours. |
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Dec 9, 2023 23:42:26 GMT
If anyone wanted absolute proof that you're either a complete moron or a WUM, here it is. On the contrary, we’ve been enormously fickle since I started attending in the 50s. We hounded Waddo and TP out of the club. The list of boo boys who’ve suffered our bile is almost endless - players we’ve just taken a dislike to for unknown reasons. Why was abuse hurled at Jimmy Greenhoff for years? Roy Vernon, David Herd, Peter Dobing, etc, etc. Lee Chapman was one of our most successful strikers and a local lad and we battered him. It might be painful for some of you but we have a role in all of this too. What are we going to do next? - hound the Coates family out and end up in non-league? We are the biggest constant factor in this demise and yet in the good times we are a huge factor in our success. I would suggest that us the very definition of fickle. And when you hurl personal abuse at anyone you’ve just lost the argument. I haven't lost any argument, I've called it how I've seen it and I think others would see it too. You've been a WUM on here for years, it's boring. Grow up. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2023 23:43:06 GMT
Whats his record compared to Jones?
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Dec 9, 2023 23:44:02 GMT
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Post by citynickscfc on Dec 9, 2023 23:44:02 GMT
Whats his record compared to Jones? I think he has a worse ppg unbelievably. |
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Dec 9, 2023 23:49:14 GMT
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 9, 2023 23:49:14 GMT
Wednesday fans were amazing today.
Even watching that dross.
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Dec 9, 2023 23:49:17 GMT
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Post by Ron on Dec 9, 2023 23:49:17 GMT
Anyone who comes on here with the “give it time” bollocks should be sectioned under the mental health act. Get the idiot gone.
This club feels dead.
What have we done to deserve this?!!!
365 out- there’s lots fe beyond them
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Post by march4 on Dec 9, 2023 23:51:29 GMT
Anyone who still thinks this manager deserves another game in charge is an utter bellend . It's really that simple. He has to go, mate. Today was just something else entirely - please excuse me if I’m now being overly fickle. |
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Dec 9, 2023 23:52:33 GMT
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Post by march4 on Dec 9, 2023 23:52:33 GMT
On the contrary, we’ve been enormously fickle since I started attending in the 50s. We hounded Waddo and TP out of the club. The list of boo boys who’ve suffered our bile is almost endless - players we’ve just taken a dislike to for unknown reasons. Why was abuse hurled at Jimmy Greenhoff for years? Roy Vernon, David Herd, Peter Dobing, etc, etc. Lee Chapman was one of our most successful strikers and a local lad and we battered him. It might be painful for some of you but we have a role in all of this too. What are we going to do next? - hound the Coates family out and end up in non-league? We are the biggest constant factor in this demise and yet in the good times we are a huge factor in our success. I would suggest that us the very definition of fickle. And when you hurl personal abuse at anyone you’ve just lost the argument. I haven't lost any argument, I've called it how I've seen it and I think others would see it too. You've been a WUM on here for years, it's boring. Grow up. More personal abuse. Oh dear! |
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