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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2023 23:42:38 GMT
This forum has gone to shit. The levels of abuse have gone way too far. We're all absolutely gutted after another defeat but lines have been well and truly crossed tonight. Lines have been crossed for sure ...the manager ... I am off to Dubai to top up my tan ... vidigal...I am off to Paris on holiday... in the middle of the season... Just before the busiest time of the season ( 10 games in the next 30 days ? ) . Lines have been crossed...but who by ? AN or the fans ? AN , all day long, in my book . Contrast that to Mark Robins, who stayed at home and hammered down a system and pattern of play to try and navigate through some tough games, and to kickstart his and Coventry's season. Last two games a 3 nil win away and 1 nil win at home. I suppose the old saying of "you only get out what you put in" has some merit after all? Good for Robins...
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Post by matelot1996 on Nov 28, 2023 23:48:44 GMT
What's all this veiled references to AN being in Dubai following our dire performance on Sat? Is this false news? With a very winable game on Tuesday only 2/3 days later there can be no possible justification, even if work related, forsuch an absence. IF TRUE. He was in Dubai before the Blackburn game. Most the squad had a holiday. About time they took the players to Lympstone instead of Dubai. Treating them like Rock Stars hasn't worked for the last 7 years. Let the Marines beast the fuck out of all of them for 2 weeks.
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Nov 28, 2023 23:50:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2023 23:50:44 GMT
Lines have been crossed for sure ...the manager ... I am off to Dubai to top up my tan ... vidigal...I am off to Paris on holiday... in the middle of the season... Just before the busiest time of the season ( 10 games in the next 30 days ? ) . Lines have been crossed...but who by ? AN or the fans ? AN , all day long, in my book . Contrast that to Mark Robins, who stayed at home and hammered down a system and pattern of play to try and navigate through some tough games, and to kickstart his and Coventry's season. Last two games a 3 nil win away and 1 nil win at home. I suppose the old saying of "you only get out what you put in" has some merit after all? Good for Robins... Coventry are higher up the table than us , despite having to sell gyokeres and hamer ( which is huge for Coventry) Robins had no chance of replacing gyokeres and hamer with better at Coventry. He has done a very tidy job in very difficult circumstances.
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Post by jebbstuart on Nov 28, 2023 23:54:23 GMT
Go just go. But the worrying thing is i can't see a replacement out there, who could turn this shower into a capable team.
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Post by MilanStokie on Nov 28, 2023 23:54:52 GMT
I'm usually one that gives managers quite a generous benefit of doubt but there comes a moment where that instantly stops and that was tonight.
Neil is not the right man for this job, he's taking us backwards. The team is getting worse, the individuals look worse and the tactics, formations and subs are just baffling each and every match.
We cannot repeat previous mistakes and dwell on the decision. Now is the time to act, sack him now, new manager gets half a dozen games to assess what he has, a full transfer window to decide what he needs and a season that can just about be salvaged.
That's what I'd hope, but lets be honest, it's going to either be a limping home to 17th place and go again next season with more promises or it will get too toxic and the owners will be forced to react rather than be proactive, by then the January window will probably be close to finish and we will rush into another pointless recruitment.
Just sigh, I'm embarrassed sometimes being a stoke fan, it's upsetting to admit that.
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Nov 29, 2023 0:01:02 GMT
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Post by stokie23 on Nov 29, 2023 0:01:02 GMT
Was going to get dogs abuse at the end of the game but didn’t come over to the fans, he knew.
Subs terrible, wrong and always too late. Game management at 2-1 up absolutely woeful. We’ve played a team that haven’t scored more than 1 goal at home in a year and no wins in 13… result, a 4-2 loss.
Fans not turning on the players because they know there’s quality there, Tcham needs to play also. Manager has to go.
Is Eustace still available!?
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 29, 2023 0:06:19 GMT
If all this is true then those empty seats aren't going to fill up soon. course it's the toxic supporters fault that the team are performing like Stafford Rangers (no offence). For Christs sake Coates
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Post by callas12 on Nov 29, 2023 0:23:55 GMT
Pulis used to have the squad doing team building exercises with the Royal Marines on international breaks gone by. Never did them any harm..
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Post by theporcelainpele on Nov 29, 2023 0:37:59 GMT
Pulis used to have the squad doing team building exercises with the Royal Marines on international breaks gone by. Never did them any harm.. Was just about to post the same. It’s like players and management alike just take the piss out of the club nowadays. Why do some good old team bonding and fitness work when the Coates will pay for us to sunbathe in Dubai or prance around the Eiffel Tower for a week.
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Post by jwhpotter on Nov 29, 2023 0:42:14 GMT
18 wins in 58! It’s a results business, he’s never going to take us forward
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Post by NassauDave on Nov 29, 2023 0:43:10 GMT
I'm usually one that gives managers quite a generous benefit of doubt but there comes a moment where that instantly stops and that was tonight. Neil is not the right man for this job, he's taking us backwards. The team is getting worse, the individuals look worse and the tactics, formations and subs are just baffling each and every match. We cannot repeat previous mistakes and dwell on the decision. Now is the time to act, sack him now, new manager gets half a dozen games to assess what he has, a full transfer window to decide what he needs and a season that can just about be salvaged. That's what I'd hope, but lets be honest, it's going to either be a limping home to 17th place and go again next season with more promises or it will get too toxic and the owners will be forced to react rather than be proactive, by then the January window will probably be close to finish and we will rush into another pointless recruitment. Just sigh, I'm embarrassed sometimes being a stoke fan, it's upsetting to admit that. Well said. Totally agree.
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Nov 29, 2023 0:46:18 GMT
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 29, 2023 0:46:18 GMT
Go just go. But the worrying thing is i can't see a replacement out there, who could turn this shower into a capable team. It’s a curious feeling, simultaneously desperately hoping someone fucks off, while knowing with cast-iron certainty that the next cab off the rank will shudder to a similar grinding, deflating halt sooner rather than later. We’ll be in exactly the same position in eighteen months or so with some other wretch in the driver's seat.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Nov 29, 2023 0:50:57 GMT
Just got home. Ref was diabolical so let’s get that out of the way.
Pearson and Johnson aside (shock) we showed we have a great squad of players with bags of potential.
There was a time in the first half where Clark and McNally have played about 5 one/twos between them and the centre mids are on the half way line waiting for it to be lumped. Poor coaching.
It was clear as day Mmaee was cream crackered along with Campbell, and Bae for the time being looked he had some fuel in the tank still. So he keeps Mmaee and basically reduces us to 9 men.
Then when we are drawing he brings our best player (Burger) off. He’s 23 and 10 stone piss wet through I’m sure he could manage another 10.
Johnson offered absolutely f**k all. Much like his gaffer he’s benign and ordinary. I text my PNE supporting mate in anger and he said he will turn up when he needs a contract.
Pearson, good character but he is what he is. No transition through the midfield because of him. He couldn’t lace Whelan or Delap’s boots.
Anyway, good night. Neil Out. The players and fans need some new energy and tactical nous.
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Post by aussiepotter1972 on Nov 29, 2023 0:51:46 GMT
God he bangs on doesn’t he. Same tripe. Always excuses. He’s lost 9 out of 18 games. 50% we again walk away with zilch against a bang average team. His players, he’s had 5 months with them and can’t bed down a consistent style of play. I don’t think the players rate him.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Nov 29, 2023 0:52:33 GMT
Oh and also.
Why the bleeding hell do our right backs refuse to use their left foot. Gooch and Hoever absolutely shocking for it. Both had opportunities to put a dangerous ball in or a shot respectively and bottled it.
Surely they practice that scenario daily?
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Nov 29, 2023 0:54:26 GMT
This forum has gone to shit. The levels of abuse have gone way too far. We're all absolutely gutted after another defeat but lines have been well and truly crossed tonight. Give over man. He can lick me swingers, do not feel sorry for him. He’s paid a shed load more than what our supporters earn to do his job and he is absolutely crap at it.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 29, 2023 0:55:00 GMT
He was in Dubai before the Blackburn game. Most the squad had a holiday. About time they took the players to Lympstone instead of Dubai. Treating them like Rock Stars hasn't worked for the last 7 years. Let the Marines beast the fuck out of all of them for 2 weeks. I think the idea of letting a Marine 'beast' them would certainly be a new training technique
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Nov 29, 2023 4:06:11 GMT
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Post by glpotter on Nov 29, 2023 4:06:11 GMT
You’re an absolute fool If I didn’t care, why would I want him gone. Surely I’d want him to stay Tosspot There's one glpotter, straight after calling me out on final whistle tonight for no apparent reason, I've never give you shit I was humble during the 3 games, others may have done but I didn't.. Fool & tosspot in one post. That's your standard attitude, you've got no manners, so don't expect any back You said for weeks I’ve been given you shit, yet you put out an example tonight . Which for the 3rd time I’ve already apologised for Swearing at you wasn’t fair but what you’ve said tonight is too far and just plain nasty I think one day if you start a family you’ll understand how difficult it is to afford a lot of things even on a good wage but judging by your responses you sound far too young to have a family of your own Yeah you’re so humble mate. Should be proud of yourself tonight Hope you get banned
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Post by kidcrewbob on Nov 29, 2023 4:15:30 GMT
Go just go. But the worrying thing is i can't see a replacement out there, who could turn this shower into a capable team. There are loads of decent candidates out there, many of which don’t need to be poached from rival clubs (almost always a recipe for failure) - you just need to put the effort in and recruit accordingly - any other profession would not tolerate such a protracted period of poor performance from an incumbent bordering on rank incompetence. It cannot go on - this season is very much salvageable if we act NOW ….
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Post by Trouserdog on Nov 29, 2023 5:34:21 GMT
AXE
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Nov 29, 2023 6:02:38 GMT
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Post by malteser68 on Nov 29, 2023 6:02:38 GMT
Go just go. But the worrying thing is i can't see a replacement out there, who could turn this shower into a capable team. You can’t see a replacement because Stoke City’s radar does not go beyond the end of its nose!! Look to the continent and certainly there are plenty of managers to choose from. If available I would definitely go for Hassenhuthl who had done a very decent job at Southampton before they decide to do a harakiri replacing him with that silly dwarf
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Post by hinckpotter on Nov 29, 2023 6:06:56 GMT
Has he gone yet?
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Post by satoshi on Nov 29, 2023 6:20:08 GMT
Who's the upgrade to replace him? Obviously British/Irish and obviously second rate, but who? It’ll be someone as wank like Neil Lennon
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Post by satoshi on Nov 29, 2023 6:24:01 GMT
You’re an absolute fool If I didn’t care, why would I want him gone. Surely I’d want him to stay Tosspot There's one glpotter, straight after calling me out on final whistle tonight for no apparent reason, I've never give you shit I was humble during the 3 games, others may have done but I didn't.. Fool & tosspot in one post. That's your standard attitude, you've got no manners, so don't expect any back The sexual tension between you two is deafening
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Post by Gunslinger on Nov 29, 2023 6:26:44 GMT
What's all this veiled references to AN being in Dubai following our dire performance on Sat? Is this false news? With a very winable game on Tuesday only 2/3 days later there can be no possible justification, even if work related, forsuch an absence. IF TRUE. He was in Dubai before the Blackburn game. Most the squad had a holiday. Absolutely shocking. That is effectively throwing away 6 points and showing no respect for the club or the supporters. What on earth is going on?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 29, 2023 8:53:39 GMT
He seems to pick a starting 11,but doesn't know how to Play them,if he knew he was going to pick that 11,then why not have them on the training ground these past 2 days playing together?
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Nov 29, 2023 9:03:04 GMT
I repeat see my comment above you clown Just as I thought, passionate supporter never goes. Cost of living my arse To mock another fan’s financial position is totally fucking out of order. You’re not a nice bloke are you really, apart from when it comes to defending the cretin in the dugout.
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Nov 29, 2023 9:07:47 GMT
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Post by glpotter on Nov 29, 2023 9:07:47 GMT
Just as I thought, passionate supporter never goes. Cost of living my arse To mock another fan’s financial position is totally fucking out of order. You’re not a nice bloke are you really, apart from when it comes to defending the cretin in the dugout. I’m not worried bud, I do well for myself but I have to have higher priorities than stoke city having a young family. I’ll go when I can. Next game is millwall at home
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Post by vidigal7 on Nov 29, 2023 10:19:19 GMT
There's one glpotter, straight after calling me out on final whistle tonight for no apparent reason, I've never give you shit I was humble during the 3 games, others may have done but I didn't.. Fool & tosspot in one post. That's your standard attitude, you've got no manners, so don't expect any back You said for weeks I’ve been given you shit, yet you put out an example tonight . Which for the 3rd time I’ve already apologised for Swearing at you wasn’t fair but what you’ve said tonight is too far and just plain nasty I think one day if you start a family you’ll understand how difficult it is to afford a lot of things even on a good wage but judging by your responses you sound far too young to have a family of your own Yeah you’re so humble mate. Should be proud of yourself tonight Hope you get banned Look, you've come guns blazing right on final whistle without provocation. Then you've gone on to use uncalled for derogatory name calling abusive language and I've replied, then you get offended. Serves you right doesn't it. During my vocal support in this message board, I've been verbally abused with derogatory names by cowardly people and although the most of the name calling may not have come directly from you, you have quickly piped up to like their posts including using such derogatory language. That's as good as doing it in my eyes and makes you equally the coward with no manners as they are. Then you get a bit back and you're like the bully that gets punched in the mouth then goes off crying to their mummy, you're a an over sensitive little baby that can give it but can't take it. Ever likely the youth of today have no manners, what chance have your children got with a role model like you. You can apologise all you want, I'm not apologising you deserve it. Back in my day you wouldn't abuse people like you did to me last night without provocation, there wasn't the Internet, you'd have been punched right in the gob. That's how we got taught manners and it worked very well. You won't find one single post of mine where I resort to derogatory name calling over an Internet, it's the most cowardly act
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Nov 29, 2023 10:42:07 GMT
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Post by glpotter on Nov 29, 2023 10:42:07 GMT
You said for weeks I’ve been given you shit, yet you put out an example tonight . Which for the 3rd time I’ve already apologised for Swearing at you wasn’t fair but what you’ve said tonight is too far and just plain nasty I think one day if you start a family you’ll understand how difficult it is to afford a lot of things even on a good wage but judging by your responses you sound far too young to have a family of your own Yeah you’re so humble mate. Should be proud of yourself tonight Hope you get banned Look, you've come guns blazing right on final whistle without provocation. Then you've gone on to use uncalled for derogatory name calling abusive language and I've replied, then you get offended. Serves you right doesn't it. During my vocal support in this message board, I've been verbally abused with derogatory names by cowardly people and although the most of the name calling may not have come directly from you, you have quickly piped up to like their posts including using such derogatory language. That's as good as doing it in my eyes and makes you equally the coward with no manners as they are. Then you get a bit back and you're like the bully that gets punched in the mouth then goes off crying to their mummy, you're a an over sensitive little baby that can give it but can't take it. Ever likely the youth of today have no manners, what chance have your children got with a role model like you. You can apologise all you want, I'm not apologising you deserve it. Back in my day you wouldn't abuse people like you did to me last night without provocation, there wasn't the Internet, you'd have been punched right in the gob. That's how we got taught manners and it worked very well. You won't find one single post of mine where I resort to derogatory name calling over an Internet, it's the most cowardly act Yet you have no substance to your accusations All talk. You don’t know me and how I look after my kids. You’ve been left to look very petty and hearing you’re a grown older man makes it even funnier
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