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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 20:47:02 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 27, 2023 20:47:02 GMT
Does anyone know if he did actually go to Dubai, or is it Chinese whispers?.
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 20:55:24 GMT
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 27, 2023 20:55:24 GMT
Two weeks with the squad and he produces one of the worst performances since his time here. If that's not a red flag then fair enough. His record at Stoke City is atrocious. Everybody has an off day, I think a fair reflection is the end of the season. We wernt very good but we've played pretty decent in the last 5 game unbeaten run, we need a striker to turn draws into wins and a keeper. It's not my job to reassure you, if you're not happy that's your perogative. I think we're a couple of players away from a good side myself I think the owners have provided the manager with a very competitive budget and allowed him to assemble a decent squad of players for this division. I think we’re a decent, competent, hard working, fully committed manager away from a good side. |
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Post by milky on Nov 27, 2023 21:14:48 GMT
They have 5 more points than us and have scored 11 more goals . So if their football is dire fuck knows how you'd describe the sludge served up by Sir Alex.... This place is toxic, goodnight x I respect you'd glass half full outlook,I really do and if you think AN can improve us then fair enough. Over 15 months though is record is dire. The last 3 games has seen us barely have an attack worthy of its name and the only worry for the opposition keeper was rigor mortis setting in .And the worry is it looked like it was by design. I don't see him being replaced any time soon so we are just going to have to hope he changes his outlook because frankly his football in general is dreadful. The worst thing is there have been games we have looked a half decent side but it doesn't take long for his negative mindset to reappear. |
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Alex Neil
Nov 27, 2023 21:42:14 GMT
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Post by theporcelainpele on Nov 27, 2023 21:42:14 GMT
Does anyone know if he did actually go to Dubai, or is it Chinese whispers?. Yeah he was spotted over there first week of the international break, there was a photo doing the rounds taken by a stoke fan that lives/works over there. |
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Post by kustokie on Nov 27, 2023 21:54:07 GMT
Everybody has an off day, I think a fair reflection is the end of the season. We wernt very good but we've played pretty decent in the last 5 game unbeaten run, we need a striker to turn draws into wins and a keeper. It's not my job to reassure you, if you're not happy that's your perogative. I think we're a couple of players away from a good side myself I think the owners have provided the manager with a very competitive budget and allowed him to assemble a decent squad of players for this division. I think we’re a decent, competent, hard working, fully committed manager away from a good side. The owners have become definition of insanity (try the same thing over again and hope for a different result). Since Hughes they have hired five manager, each with good resumes, with the exception of Lambert, and the performances ended up worse. Rowell, Jones, MON and Neil all looked good on paper but the slide continues. I don’t know what it is, but Stoke City FC looks like a toxic workplace, which, like a fish, is rotting from the head. |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 27, 2023 21:57:44 GMT
I think the owners have provided the manager with a very competitive budget and allowed him to assemble a decent squad of players for this division. I think we’re a decent, competent, hard working, fully committed manager away from a good side. The owners have become definition of insanity (try the same thing over again and hope for a different result). Since Hughes they have hired five manager, each with good resumes, with the exception of Lambert, and the performances ended up worse. Rowell, Jones, MON and Neil all looked good on paper but the slide continues. I don’t know what it is, but Stoke City FC looks like a toxic workplace, which, like a fish, is rotting from the head. I don't think it's toxic, you'd hear about it. I think there is a level of naivety at board level and a distinct lack of modern day football thinking. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2023 21:59:26 GMT
I've just remembered an incident, 1-0 down in the second half. We got a free kick in their half, took it quick....back to the center backs l, a bit later it was back with the keeper.
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Alex Neil
Nov 28, 2023 1:06:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2023 1:06:23 GMT
What is it, what do you expect exactly, you're talking Roy of the Rovers stuff. Manager comes in releases a shit squad, spends naff all on the rebuild and storms the league. Back in the real world.... Perhaps a win ratio that matches the manager who he replaced and who had to contend with FFP just might support your support for an atrocious record to-date. AN’s home record is nothing short of atrocious I’d also like us to try that crazy type of football that places an emphasis on passing forwards. |
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Alex Neil
Nov 28, 2023 6:37:18 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Nov 28, 2023 6:37:18 GMT
The owners have become definition of insanity (try the same thing over again and hope for a different result). Since Hughes they have hired five manager, each with good resumes, with the exception of Lambert, and the performances ended up worse. Rowell, Jones, MON and Neil all looked good on paper but the slide continues. I don’t know what it is, but Stoke City FC looks like a toxic workplace, which, like a fish, is rotting from the head. I don't think it's toxic, you'd hear about it. I think there is a level of naivety at board level and a distinct lack of modern day football thinking. If you're looking for toxicity I'd try looking a bit closer to home, it does seem that this place is only happy when it's miserable. A win or two and decent football and you're stumped for something to moan about the board becomes stale |
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 28, 2023 8:33:22 GMT
Does anyone know if he did actually go to Dubai, or is it Chinese whispers?. I've a photo to prove it, was sat on the table next to my mate who lives out there. |
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 28, 2023 8:52:32 GMT
Contrast that with Mark Robins at Coventry with 2 weeks of intense preparation, paying off with a 3 nil win at Millwall 😢
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 28, 2023 9:05:16 GMT
I don't think it's toxic, you'd hear about it. I think there is a level of naivety at board level and a distinct lack of modern day football thinking. If you're looking for toxicity I'd try looking a bit closer to home, it does seem that this place is only happy when it's miserable. A win or two and decent football and you're stumped for something to moan about the board becomes stale You're not a Stoke City supporter. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 28, 2023 9:23:41 GMT
If Gayle starts again I think it's time to question Neil's position! If we win with Gayle in the side it's despite of him, not because of him!  |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 28, 2023 9:47:06 GMT
If you're looking for toxicity I'd try looking a bit closer to home, it does seem that this place is only happy when it's miserable. A win or two and decent football and you're stumped for something to moan about the board becomes stale You're not a Stoke City supporter. Or he's Jared Dublin. |
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Alex Neil
Nov 28, 2023 10:06:21 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Nov 28, 2023 10:06:21 GMT
If you're looking for toxicity I'd try looking a bit closer to home, it does seem that this place is only happy when it's miserable. A win or two and decent football and you're stumped for something to moan about the board becomes stale You're not a Stoke City supporter. Haha pisser. I'd argue you and lots of others are not, a 'follower' maybe, supporter? Pfffft |
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Alex Neil
Nov 28, 2023 10:20:49 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 28, 2023 10:20:49 GMT
You're not a Stoke City supporter. Haha pisser. I'd argue you and lots of others are not, a 'follower' maybe, supporter? Pfffft Wouldn't say was stale I would say many were hoping after 12 months we'd turned a corner but obviously a false dawn and his record remains as abysmal as it ever was |
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Alex Neil
Nov 28, 2023 10:38:51 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Nov 28, 2023 10:38:51 GMT
Haha pisser. I'd argue you and lots of others are not, a 'follower' maybe, supporter? Pfffft Wouldn't say was stale I would say many were hoping after 12 months we'd turned a corner but obviously a false dawn and his record remains as abysmal as it ever was When it does come good please don't sing we'll be with you. Makes me cringe that song does when Stoke fans sing it, it couldn't be further from the truth. Any chance of changing the lyrics to "we'll be with you when we're winning" |
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Alex Neil
Nov 28, 2023 10:43:58 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Nov 28, 2023 10:43:58 GMT
We're only a couple of 3 nillers away from "best team in the land" haha
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Post by independent on Nov 28, 2023 10:52:49 GMT
We're only a couple of 3 nillers away from "best team in the land" haha any of this seem familar: Look at that squad on paper now, these players have been brought in to play a particular way, they've been hand picked for to fit into a particular role in a style of football we want to establish. For the first time in absolutely ages I'm excited about watching the end product when they've got to know and understand each other as players and as people. We will be in mid table at least by Christmas I'm pretty confident of that, we're a totally different out fit now. We've brought in good players with qualities hand picked by the manager to play a style and a brand of football he's already promoted two teams with. For me Travers, Mcnally, Pearson, Burger, Wesley looks a pretty solid spine. To be honest I'd love to know the reasoning behind signing Wesley, he was definatley a player we brought in as a stop gap and it does look completely senseless given his immobility, Tje players he brought in look exciting and we have signed pkayers to play an attacking game with a sprinkling of flair, what more do you want? We'd do very well to better that record with anybody else. It isn't like we've made bad signings, quite the opposite, with resale value to as theyre the right age. The players we have brought in is a big positive for me, we should let him finish what he has started because going into the next two windows it's clear what we need and I'm convinced we'll get the right type. Whichever way you want to look at it Mmaee was one of our key signings because we paid 4 million euros for him, we paid a considerable fee because he can clearly finish, asisst and he's mobile |
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Alex Neil
Nov 28, 2023 10:57:27 GMT
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Post by emretezzy on Nov 28, 2023 10:57:27 GMT
I struggle to apprehend how when we are as bad as we are he can go to Dubai mid season . People are due holidays and for football people you have to get them in when you can I suppose. The optics on this occasion are terrible, given the performance on Saturday. Disorganised and demotivated. Very poor. They played like they'd all be in Dubai for 7/10 days. Which they had! |
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Alex Neil
Nov 28, 2023 11:06:18 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 28, 2023 11:06:18 GMT
Wouldn't say was stale I would say many were hoping after 12 months we'd turned a corner but obviously a false dawn and his record remains as abysmal as it ever was When it does come good please don't sing we'll be with you. Makes me cringe that song does when Stoke fans sing it, it couldn't be further from the truth. Any chance of changing the lyrics to "we'll be with you when we're winning" Ok I promise Have little reason to sing anything since that blagger arrived |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 28, 2023 11:09:33 GMT
Wouldn't say was stale I would say many were hoping after 12 months we'd turned a corner but obviously a false dawn and his record remains as abysmal as it ever was When it does come good please don't sing we'll be with you. Makes me cringe that song does when Stoke fans sing it, it couldn't be further from the truth. Any chance of changing the lyrics to "we'll be with you when we're winning" It's when WE sing it. It's only 'when Stoke fans sing it' if addressed by someone who is not a Stoke supporter/supports another club. |
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Alex Neil
Nov 28, 2023 11:24:43 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Nov 28, 2023 11:24:43 GMT
When it does come good please don't sing we'll be with you. Makes me cringe that song does when Stoke fans sing it, it couldn't be further from the truth. Any chance of changing the lyrics to "we'll be with you when we're winning" It's when WE sing it. It's only 'when Stoke fans sing it' if addressed by someone who is not a Stoke supporter/supports another club. Pisser |
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Post by caine on Nov 28, 2023 11:30:43 GMT
Next four games are 'winnable' and if any less than 7 points then think its drab to be honest.... if we are 6-8 points off playoffs come Jan he isn't going anywhere and will be backed to bring a striker in until end of the year. I dont mind that as it's kind of fair to assume he will get until next summer. If we finish mid table then you have to assume he will be gone.
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Alex Neil
Nov 28, 2023 11:36:31 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Nov 28, 2023 11:36:31 GMT
We're only a couple of 3 nillers away from "best team in the land" haha any of this seem familar: Look at that squad on paper now, these players have been brought in to play a particular way, they've been hand picked for to fit into a particular role in a style of football we want to establish. For the first time in absolutely ages I'm excited about watching the end product when they've got to know and understand each other as players and as people. We will be in mid table at least by Christmas I'm pretty confident of that, we're a totally different out fit now. We've brought in good players with qualities hand picked by the manager to play a style and a brand of football he's already promoted two teams with. For me Travers, Mcnally, Pearson, Burger, Wesley looks a pretty solid spine. To be honest I'd love to know the reasoning behind signing Wesley, he was definatley a player we brought in as a stop gap and it does look completely senseless given his immobility, Tje players he brought in look exciting and we have signed pkayers to play an attacking game with a sprinkling of flair, what more do you want? We'd do very well to better that record with anybody else. It isn't like we've made bad signings, quite the opposite, with resale value to as theyre the right age. The players we have brought in is a big positive for me, we should let him finish what he has started because going into the next two windows it's clear what we need and I'm convinced we'll get the right type. Whichever way you want to look at it Mmaee was one of our key signings because we paid 4 million euros for him, we paid a considerable fee because he can clearly finish, asisst and he's mobile Where have you had that from I couldn't agree more.. A couple of things to add though, we havn't spent big on the missing piece of the jig saw, we missed out on a couple of top striker targets in summer and arguably with the right C.F we'd be 6 points better off. I fully expect us to spend on a good striker in January, we've had since the summer now to find a suitable alternative after missing out on a couple in the summer. Now, given we did spend a quarter of the season acclimatising a whole new squad without a suitable pre-season we've obviously dropped points in that time for that reason, I think we're 6 points down due to a lack of a serious player at CF that will score the goals and suit the way we play. Take away points lost to the settling in period and points dropped for a lack of the right goalscoring C.F I'd put us in the play-off positions or at the very least right next door |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 28, 2023 11:49:16 GMT
QPR.2nd.bottom of the Championship.
Only 11 goals scored.
No wins in 12.
No home wins this season.
1 home win in 20 odd games over 1 year.
Yet AN will most likely be telling his players how dangerous QPR can be,so pick a side not to lose,which we could if he plays that way,instead of telling his players,QPR are where they are because they are a poor side,now go out there and show them you are the better side
and score a few goals to prove it.
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Alex Neil
Nov 28, 2023 11:53:42 GMT
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Post by s7oke on Nov 28, 2023 11:53:42 GMT
Their football is absolutely dire, if you watched that every week he'd be out the door at the first sign of a poor patch at Stoke. Whoopy Cardiff have won a few games, must be the next best thing since sliced bread that manager, Stoke fans in a nutshell They've scored 11 more goals than us in just 17 games. We've scored 16 in 17, and 7 of them came in two games. That leaves us with a paltry 9 goals in the other 15 games. If Cardiff's football is absolutely dire I'm wondering if the adjective to describe our football has even been invented yet? Dogwank may well be the word you require I’ve just invented it 😁 I think anyway But it does sum us up |
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Post by vidigal7 on Nov 28, 2023 11:56:16 GMT
They've scored 11 more goals than us in just 17 games. We've scored 16 in 17, and 7 of them came in two games. That leaves us with a paltry 9 goals in the other 15 games. If Cardiff's football is absolutely dire I'm wondering if the adjective to describe our football has even been invented yet? Dogwank may well be the word you require I’ve just invented it 😁 I think anyway But it does sum us up Big Bruno's coming in in January, I signed him for Stoke on FM and he transforms us, he is the lean mean goalscoring machine we've been looking for. BRUNOOOO BRUNOOO BRUNOOO Dunna werrit |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 28, 2023 12:02:35 GMT
Dogwank may well be the word you require I’ve just invented it 😁 I think anyway But it does sum us up Big Bruno's coming in in January, I signed him for Stoke on FM and he transforms us, he is the lean mean goalscoring machine we've been looking for. BRUNOOOO BRUNOOO BRUNOOO Dunna werrit  Best days are behind him now... |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 28, 2023 12:05:22 GMT
We're only a couple of 3 nillers away from "best team in the land" haha Hes been a shocking appointment pal, pretty much a disaster with the exception of March Looking at the home stats in his tenure I think the fans have been remarkably tolerent |
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