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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2023 17:55:30 GMT
If 50% of our summer business is successful we will have done exceptionally well and I'm not writing off Mmaee by any means. I've seen plenty at Stoke down the years who I knew instantly were duds. Mmaee is most definitely not one of those. He may well not work out here, it happens but he needs time to adjust to the pace of this league. He looks to have the tools but there are variables that no amount of due diligence can predict. Only 50%, Jesus Christ if that is the bar then we may as well not bother with a scouting system. Check out even some of the great managers and I dare bet that no more than half of their signings were outright successes. Some will fall in the middle as ok and a decent chunk will be complete duds. If seven of our so far fourteen(?) signings are big successes we'll be laughing.
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Aug 26, 2023 17:59:38 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Aug 26, 2023 17:59:38 GMT
I think Neil realises he's way off the pace atm
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Aug 26, 2023 18:05:38 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2023 18:05:38 GMT
If 50% of our summer business is successful we will have done exceptionally well and I'm not writing off Mmaee by any means. I've seen plenty at Stoke down the years who I knew instantly were duds. Mmaee is most definitely not one of those. He may well not work out here, it happens but he needs time to adjust to the pace of this league. He looks to have the tools but there are variables that no amount of due diligence can predict. Only 50%, Jesus Christ if that is the bar then we may as well not bother with a scouting system. 50% is a perfectly reasonable strike rate for transfer success nobody does much better than that.
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Aug 26, 2023 18:08:43 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2023 18:08:43 GMT
I think Neil realises he's way off the pace atm I haven’t checked but I wouldn’t put it past some who are slating Laurent want to give Mmaee a pass for strolling about like he’s taking his dog for a walk.
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Aug 26, 2023 18:11:11 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Aug 26, 2023 18:11:11 GMT
I think Neil realises he's way off the pace atm I haven’t checked but I wouldn’t put it past some who are slating Laurent want to give Mmaee a pass for strolling about like he’s taking his dog for a walk. He does look lost atm to be fair, he can't be as bad as he has been though, I think patience is required with Mmaee
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 26, 2023 18:14:29 GMT
Why Neil has made thes ame judgement on chiquinio add Mmaaee to that and it throws some doubt on this alleged next level research’s and preperation , id say we seen enough now to know both are duds Jury’s out on Wesley and we cant expect to led the line all season . This weeks signings llok better already and we need three more if we are to be top half Ha ha what a load of drivel. Yes we have definitely seen enough of Mmaee after his 174 minutes of English league football. I actually think I have seen enough to say he won’t make a meaningful contribution this season as he’s so much learning and developing to do even if he can do it. He has to start mid week and do so much better than so far.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2023 18:17:30 GMT
His body language is bloody awful, he looks like he couldn't give a shit. He's used to being Billy big bollocks in some shit hungarian league isn't he. Your football knowledge is about as good as your transfer knowledge.
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Aug 26, 2023 18:23:17 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 26, 2023 18:23:17 GMT
He's used to being Billy big bollocks in some shit hungarian league isn't he. Your football knowledge is about as good as your transfer knowledge. You'd get more football knowledge from that shrubbery he said he was going see earlier today.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 26, 2023 18:30:21 GMT
He looks like he needs to hit the gym
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Aug 26, 2023 18:43:31 GMT
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Post by willieeetmiout on Aug 26, 2023 18:43:31 GMT
Didn't get much time to prove anything today. Not had a good start, but some players take longer to settle than others. 90mins against Rotherham would be a good idea. If he doesn't stick him up front on his own it would
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Aug 26, 2023 19:00:31 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 26, 2023 19:00:31 GMT
One incident highlighted his problem. He was standing next to burger, it was near the end. He made a feeble attempt to shield the ball, the defender poked his foot in, burger came flying in, put his body between the ball and defender and kept possession.
Mmaee could have done it with some determination.
He's got to show some aggression. There's obviously ability there.
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 26, 2023 19:04:28 GMT
He looks like he needs to hit the gym I really think that most of our squad would benefit from that (apart from Wesley). We look a lot fitter than last season but I think all of them would improve with 3-4 lbs of extra, lean muscle. We lose too many 50-50s all across the park. Mmaee is doing what I expect of most centre forwards when they start. He’s taking time to adapt. I think he’d do well as a 10 to be honest.
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Post by sensiblestokie on Aug 26, 2023 19:28:44 GMT
If 50% of our summer business is successful we will have done exceptionally well and I'm not writing off Mmaee by any means. I've seen plenty at Stoke down the years who I knew instantly were duds. Mmaee is most definitely not one of those. He may well not work out here, it happens but he needs time to adjust to the pace of this league. He looks to have the tools but there are variables that no amount of due diligence can predict. Only 50%, Jesus Christ if that is the bar then we may as well not bother with a scouting system. Are you for real mate? 50% success rate of signings is absolutely brilliant. I’m convinced sometimes people like you are just on the wind up, what a sad life.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 26, 2023 19:38:48 GMT
Maybe he needs to play as a AM when Johnson’s not playing. I still think he’ll come good in some capacity. He shows little glimpses, but I am not sure what his best position will be. I think he may struggle if he is played as a #9, especially if he is playing up front on his own. I can envisage him have more success from wide areas (or maybe a deeper position like you suggested). However, who does he replace? Especially with all of the other new signings flying in from everywhere! I think this may be his main problem. Can Neil find a position for him without upsetting the balance/having to fit him in somewhere? I don’t think he’s looked bad, just needs time and a bit of a settled run in a position.
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Post by Caddick988 on Aug 26, 2023 19:46:06 GMT
I think he’ll start Tuesday and I think he’ll open his account and that will give him the confidence he needs to get up and running for the season!
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Post by karl on Aug 26, 2023 20:22:12 GMT
Yeah I will think he will come good and Tuesday's game will help him.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 26, 2023 20:24:07 GMT
Still not convinced by Mmaee. Hopefully he will come good, but so far he has just been a big let down in my opinion.
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Aug 26, 2023 20:27:21 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2023 20:27:21 GMT
Still not convinced by Mmaee. Hopefully he will come good, but so far he has just been a big let down in my opinion. Not scoring just isn’t the problem doesn’t look like he has the intensity or relish the physical side. I fear he might be a Joselu.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 26, 2023 20:29:38 GMT
Still not convinced by Mmaee. Hopefully he will come good, but so far he has just been a big let down in my opinion. Not scoring just isn’t the problem doesn’t look like he has the intensity or relish the physical side. I fear he might be a Joselu. If only ..........
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2023 20:37:40 GMT
Not scoring just isn’t the problem doesn’t look like he has the intensity or relish the physical side. I fear he might be a Joselu. If only .......... Don’t care what he’s done in other countries he couldn’t cut it in England.
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Post by george2again on Aug 27, 2023 4:32:55 GMT
Seriously, he looks like he could benefit from a loan spell until January. He looks well off pace and needs to acclimatise himself in league one for three months. We can’t carry him. He’s no where near first 11.
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 27, 2023 5:17:43 GMT
I think he’s abit shell shocked at the pace, physicality and intensity of the games.
I’m sure he’s got the quality to be a success, just needs a little time to adapt.
Edit- he feels very very Josh Maja. Good player, might need to partner someone in a 2. And certainly isn’t a back to goal striker
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 27, 2023 5:47:07 GMT
He’ll be fine.
The biggest issue with fitting him in is we don’t play through the team on the ground. That has to change with or without him in the side.
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Post by neckender78 on Aug 27, 2023 7:21:40 GMT
Some players come from foreign leagues hit the ground running others take a while sometimes a season to adjust. He's played a handful of games, it says so much about modern football people want to write him off and send him on loan already. Bizarre From memory Steino and Thorney took quite a few games to get off the mark for us and they turned out more than alright
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 27, 2023 7:34:15 GMT
Some players come from foreign leagues hit the ground running others take a while sometimes a season to adjust. He's played a handful of games, it says so much about modern football people want to write him off and send him on loan already. Bizarre From memory Steino and Thorney took quite a few games to get off the mark for us and they turned out more than alright It was 8 games before Steino got his first goal for us. What was it then? 63 goals in 85 games or something daft so 63 in under 80 games after notching his first. What a player he was. The best!
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Post by baconburger on Aug 27, 2023 7:42:49 GMT
Some players come from foreign leagues hit the ground running others take a while sometimes a season to adjust. He's played a handful of games, it says so much about modern football people want to write him off and send him on loan already. Bizarre From memory Steino and Thorney took quite a few games to get off the mark for us and they turned out more than alright It was 8 games before Steino got his first goal for us. What was it then? 63 goals in 85 games or something daft so 63 in under 80 games after notching his first. What a player he was. The best! People are scrutinising his performances not the fact he hasn’t scored. He’s a complete passenger.
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Aug 27, 2023 7:46:57 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 27, 2023 7:46:57 GMT
It was 8 games before Steino got his first goal for us. What was it then? 63 goals in 85 games or something daft so 63 in under 80 games after notching his first. What a player he was. The best! People are scrutinising his performances not the fact he hasn’t scored. He’s a complete passenger. I was reminiscing about Steino. I never even mentioned Maaee. 🤷♂️ For what it’s worth, I don’t feel like he’s a passenger and believe he’ll be absolutely fine. Vidigal has started like an express train but Maaee will come good I’m sure. Biggest gripe on yesterday wasn’t really the players. The manager cost us with his idiotic 5 at the back. Maaee did more than Neil to help us get a result yesterday
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Post by emretezzy on Aug 27, 2023 7:47:32 GMT
He’ll be fine. The biggest issue with fitting him in is we don’t play through the team on the ground. That has to change with or without him in the side. Wesley played well yesterday. But Millwall wanted us to turn the ball quickly and turn it into 50/50 duels. We should have played through the lines as much as possible and our ability would have seen a positive result. We really need to make sure we are utilising the good footballers we now have at the club.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 27, 2023 8:00:03 GMT
He’ll be fine. The biggest issue with fitting him in is we don’t play through the team on the ground. That has to change with or without him in the side. Wesley played well yesterday. But Millwall wanted us to turn the ball quickly and turn it into 50/50 duels. We should have played through the lines as much as possible and our ability would have seen a positive result. We really need to make sure we are utilising the good footballers we now have at the club. Wesley played that well former pro’s commentating were amazed he got to stay on the pitch so long.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 27, 2023 8:02:33 GMT
I think Neil realises he's way off the pace atm I haven’t checked but I wouldn’t put it past some who are slating Laurent want to give Mmaee a pass for strolling about like he’s taking his dog for a walk. They both have had a bad start to the season, and none of the two deserves to be in a starting 11.
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