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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 14:13:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 14:13:32 GMT
Ugh. Because we don’t have a replacement for the remaining 17 games. Also, because he’s been here for half a season in a disjointed attack and a loan to some random club in Turkey isn’t going to do much for Stoke’s finances. Maybe I'm off here, but isn't part of why we are inviting offers that we have a replacement striker lines up? I'd keep him anyway of course, cause the (several)Million dollar man has pace and trickery that would also help Mmaee. A loan to Turkey is just bollocks, how many have come back from there in better form? Turkey is just a stop on the way to oblivion for footballers. Plus it's a risk they never pay their bills. It has happened many times, both fees and wages. If we were to sign a central striker, I could see why we would do it. Like you, I wouldn’t agree with it, but I could kind of get it. It’s my understanding though that Manhoef is more of a wide player.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 14:18:22 GMT
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Post by MilanStokie on Feb 1, 2024 14:18:22 GMT
Even then, and even in Saudi Arabia, I don't see any club at all matching the money they are currently on. So, I don't see why they would even entertain such a thing when they are free agents anyway in 4 months and they can get 500k-1million richer in the meantime. Saudi Arabia probably would match it and a fair bit more, we can only hope Wesley is offered something and he goes off into the Arabian sunset. It's only really the top 4-5 teams who are paying big wages. I don't think Wesley is on their radar, probably a smaller club with a more modest budget, like Abha.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 14:19:33 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 1, 2024 14:19:33 GMT
He doesn’t want to go, fair play to him. Hope he holds firm. He needs to look like he gives a shit then because at the minute his body language is all wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 14:25:21 GMT
He doesn’t want to go, fair play to him. Hope he holds firm. He needs to look like he gives a shit then because at the minute his body language is all wrong. I’m years beyond the body language argument to be fair. It died with, frankly, all our best players in the last de see. Arnautovic, N’Zonzi, Shaqiri, Powell, all of them.
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Post by stantheman on Feb 1, 2024 14:28:02 GMT
I was sat next to none other than Mr Ricardo Fuller at a home game a couple of months ago. He described Mmaee as being lazy!
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 14:28:32 GMT
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Feb 1, 2024 14:28:32 GMT
He needs to look like he gives a shit then because at the minute his body language is all wrong. I’m years beyond the body language argument to be fair. It died with, frankly, all our best players in the last de see. Arnautovic, N’Zonzi, Shaqiri, Powell, all of them. Never thought I'd see biscuit legs mentioned in the same sentence as proper players Arnie, N'Zonzi and Shaq
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Post by milton58 on Feb 1, 2024 14:31:55 GMT
I was sat next to none other than Mr Ricardo Fuller at a home game a couple of months ago. He described Mmaee as being lazy! coming from Ricardo he must have been taking the piss
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 14:32:54 GMT
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Post by Championship Potter on Feb 1, 2024 14:32:54 GMT
Looks like we are looking at a lot of surgery on the forward line in the summer. He was probably the one of the current set (excluding Lowe and Tezgel) that looked the most certain to still be here in the summer. Has to be some major question marks around Leris and Vidigal staying beyond the summer, although imagine at least one of those would have to stay just to make up the numbers if Mmae is off.
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 1, 2024 14:38:47 GMT
I personally think it’s bullshit. 2+2=5. The guy we are after seems to play more out wide that centrally, so why would we get rid of our primary central striker knowing that our reserve is out the door in the summer? Because we have two better options in the u-21s Seriously? Have you watched Lowe playing live? At the moment he offers nothing beyond enthusiastic running about and jumping. He may come good but he isn't ready to lead the line. As for Tezgel we need to sort out his quad problems which may mean waiting until his body has matured more.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 14:39:19 GMT
Post by juiceandbits on Feb 1, 2024 14:39:19 GMT
Looks like we are looking at a lot of surgery on the forward line in the summer. He was probably the one of the current set (excluding Lowe and Tezgel) that looked the most certain to still be here in the summer. Has to be some major question marks around Leris and Vidigal staying beyond the summer, although imagine at least one of those would have to stay just to make up the numbers if Mmae is off. Leris is useful cover. We can't offload everyone.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 14:56:42 GMT
Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 14:56:42 GMT
Because we have two better options in the u-21s Seriously? Have you watched Lowe playing live? At the moment he offers nothing beyond enthusiastic running about and jumping. He may come good but he isn't ready to lead the line. As for Tezgel we need to sort out his quad problems which may mean waiting until his body has matured more. Lowe was by his mere presence involved with the last goal Stoke is registered with. What more do you want? We have two young talents who are not the finished product yet and why would they be at their age? We have to got to groom them for better things. Our other method, buying strikers who don't score goals, doesn't seem to be working...
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 15:00:35 GMT
Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 15:00:35 GMT
Ugh. Because we don’t have a replacement for the remaining 17 games. Also, because he’s been here for half a season in a disjointed attack and a loan to some random club in Turkey isn’t going to do much for Stoke’s finances. Nor is his lack of goals and his inability to settle into the team. If we do sign a striker before the night is over, all of your worries will be over...or at least till we find out that new striker doesn't score goals!
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 15:01:34 GMT
Post by JimmyisGod on Feb 1, 2024 15:01:34 GMT
Lowe is nowhere near ready for the first team, he needs a loan to a div 1 or 2 team
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 15:04:28 GMT
Post by nottsover60 on Feb 1, 2024 15:04:28 GMT
Seriously? Have you watched Lowe playing live? At the moment he offers nothing beyond enthusiastic running about and jumping. He may come good but he isn't ready to lead the line. As for Tezgel we need to sort out his quad problems which may mean waiting until his body has matured more. Lowe was by his mere presence involved with the last goal Stoke is registered with. What more do you want? We have two young talents who are not the finished product yet and why would they be at their age? We have to got to groom them for better things. Our other method, buying strikers who don't score goals, doesn't seem to be working... Not if they are not ready and the team will suffer as a consequence. Forget Tezgel for now, we are taking a softly, softly approach with him.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 15:06:36 GMT
Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 15:06:36 GMT
Lowe is nowhere near ready for the first team, he needs a loan to a div 1 or 2 team We are talking about next season. If it makes you and others happy that he wastes a few months in lower league, then find him a club. But he's got to be our player, when we set up for pre seasson.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 15:07:26 GMT
Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 15:07:26 GMT
Lowe was by his mere presence involved with the last goal Stoke is registered with. What more do you want? We have two young talents who are not the finished product yet and why would they be at their age? We have to got to groom them for better things. Our other method, buying strikers who don't score goals, doesn't seem to be working... Not if they are not ready and the team will suffer as a consequence. Forget Tezgel for now, we are taking a softly, softly approach with him. If we never groom them for first team football when will they be ready? Never.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 15:10:14 GMT
Ugh. Because we don’t have a replacement for the remaining 17 games. Also, because he’s been here for half a season in a disjointed attack and a loan to some random club in Turkey isn’t going to do much for Stoke’s finances. Nor is his lack of goals and his inability to settle into the team. If we do sign a striker before the night is over, all of your worries will be over...or at least till we find out that new striker doesn't score goals! Well hopefully the “mere presence” of the next incoming striker will ensure that we get lots of own goals 😉
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 15:11:43 GMT
Post by nottsover60 on Feb 1, 2024 15:11:43 GMT
Not if they are not ready and the team will suffer as a consequence. Forget Tezgel for now, we are taking a softly, softly approach with him. If we never groom them for first team football when will they be ready? Never. They have to look the part when they get picked. Lowe hasn't. Look at Rashford, nowhere near the first team until a spate of injuries to players ahead of him in the pecking order. Took his chance and has been playing for them ever since at the top of the Premier.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 15:15:17 GMT
Post by JimmyisGod on Feb 1, 2024 15:15:17 GMT
Harry Kane, David Beckham and lots of others went out on loan to lower league teams when they were 18 and they haven’t done too bad for the experience
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 1, 2024 15:19:39 GMT
I was sat next to none other than Mr Ricardo Fuller at a home game a couple of months ago. He described Mmaee as being lazy! He would know.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 15:23:12 GMT
Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 15:23:12 GMT
If we never groom them for first team football when will they be ready? Never. They have to look the part when they get picked. Lowe hasn't. Look at Rashford, nowhere near the first team until a spate of injuries to players ahead of him in the pecking order. Took his chance and has been playing for them ever since at the top of the Premier. If you think develpoing young players are bad for the club and the team will suffer as a result. then you are beyond reach...
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 1, 2024 15:23:36 GMT
I was sat next to none other than Mr Ricardo Fuller at a home game a couple of months ago. He described Mmaee as being lazy! He would know. Are you going to tell him 😉
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 15:23:45 GMT
Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 15:23:45 GMT
Nor is his lack of goals and his inability to settle into the team. If we do sign a striker before the night is over, all of your worries will be over...or at least till we find out that new striker doesn't score goals! Well hopefully the “mere presence” of the next incoming striker will ensure that we get lots of own goals 😉 It's our only hope...
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 1, 2024 15:34:04 GMT
They have to look the part when they get picked. Lowe hasn't. Look at Rashford, nowhere near the first team until a spate of injuries to players ahead of him in the pecking order. Took his chance and has been playing for them ever since at the top of the Premier. If you think develpoing young players are bad for the club and the team will suffer as a result. then you are beyond reach... Why bother signing anyone then? We have a full u21 team, a full u18 team and several out on loan. Shouldn't we be devoping them in the first team by your logic. I can guess where we'd end up playing football. We still haven't got a proper song out of Tyrese Campbell who we have been developing in the first team for 7 years. He looked a far better prospect at 17 than Lowe does currently.
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Post by jeycov on Feb 1, 2024 15:53:08 GMT
Hope all of this talk doesn’t affect his morale if he does stay with us for the remainder of the season
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 15:58:57 GMT
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Post by gogogadget on Feb 1, 2024 15:58:57 GMT
Hope all of this talk doesn’t affect his morale if he does stay with us for the remainder of the season Or he thinks, shit this bloke is serious. I better be totally on it in training and if selected Matchday
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Post by RF10 on Feb 1, 2024 16:01:50 GMT
I was sat next to none other than Mr Ricardo Fuller at a home game a couple of months ago. He described Mmaee as being lazy! coming from Ricardo he must have been taking the piss Ricardo was far from lazy.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 16:06:50 GMT
Post by spiderpuss on Feb 1, 2024 16:06:50 GMT
Lowe is nowhere near ready for the first team, he needs a loan to a div 1 or 2 team If that's the case we might as well just shoot Gayle and Wesley.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 16:09:50 GMT
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Post by milton58 on Feb 1, 2024 16:09:50 GMT
coming from Ricardo he must have been taking the piss Ricardo was far from lazy. he could be.... but he was also capable of winning the game on his own
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 16:12:30 GMT
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Post by 36dd on Feb 1, 2024 16:12:30 GMT
Ricardo was far from lazy. he could be.... but he was also capable of winning the game on his own Fuller carried an injury during his time at Stoke, which is one of the reasons we were able to sign him.
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