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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 12:11:34 GMT
Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 1, 2024 12:11:34 GMT
If we really are accepting loans with options from tiny, relegation-threatened Turkish teams for someone who in all likelihood will end up starting most of the remaining games for us, it doesn't seem an optimal situation regarding a.) our attacking depth and b.) Mmaee's motivation, should we not manage to bring a striker in I wonder if the sauntering back on recovery 'runs' drove the transfer listing or did a quiet word from SS about letting him go trigger the 'sauntering'?
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 12:11:59 GMT
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Post by march4 on Feb 1, 2024 12:11:59 GMT
wasn't it under £2m with add ons? Hope it was under £2M.
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Post by Bramolini on Feb 1, 2024 12:12:05 GMT
Could this be the kick up the arse he needs , or is it too late ?
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 12:13:48 GMT
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Post by MilanStokie on Feb 1, 2024 12:13:48 GMT
Even then, and even in Saudi Arabia, I don't see any club at all matching the money they are currently on. So, I don't see why they would even entertain such a thing when they are free agents anyway in 4 months and they can get 500k-1million richer in the meantime. Gayle, perhaps not. However, can Wesley afford to spend an entire season not featuring in the bottom half Championship side? Well, season ends in 3-4 months, is that realistically going to make much difference to his career prospects at this point? I can't see him having any trouble finding a team in the middle east or back in Brazil in all honesty.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 12:22:18 GMT
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Post by wearepremierleague on Feb 1, 2024 12:22:18 GMT
Convinced he will come good. Really hope he stays put.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 12:23:14 GMT
Post by shrewspotter on Feb 1, 2024 12:23:14 GMT
Fair play to the lad for shwoing the determination to make it work, if he can now do that on the pitch
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Feb 1, 2024 12:32:21 GMT
Fair play to the lad for shwoing the determination to make it work, if he can now do that on the pitch I’ve got no doubt at all that he ‘wants to do well’ but bottom line is, he simply isn’t much good and unfortunately will never score more than a handful of goals in a full season.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 1, 2024 12:41:15 GMT
Or it was simply put to him to see if he was interested before any time was wasted in negotiating a fee etc.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 12:47:40 GMT
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Post by milton58 on Feb 1, 2024 12:47:40 GMT
Should definitely stay binning him off after half a season don't make sense...give him a season at least
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 12:51:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 12:51:34 GMT
Should definitely stay binning him off after half a season don't make sense...give him a season at least I personally think it’s bullshit. 2+2=5. The guy we are after seems to play more out wide that centrally, so why would we get rid of our primary central striker knowing that our reserve is out the door in the summer?
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Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 12:53:14 GMT
Should definitely stay binning him off after half a season don't make sense...give him a season at least I personally think it’s bullshit. 2+2=5. The guy we are after seems to play more out wide that centrally, so why would we get rid of our primary central striker knowing that our reserve is out the door in the summer? Because we have two better options in the u-21s
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 13:00:02 GMT
I personally think it’s bullshit. 2+2=5. The guy we are after seems to play more out wide that centrally, so why would we get rid of our primary central striker knowing that our reserve is out the door in the summer? Because we have two better options in the u-21s Yes yes, the mighty Lowe and Tezgel. The same Tezgel whose leg drops off as soon as he plays against a grown up. If SS was serious about playing Tezgel, don’t you think that they would have had him in the squad?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 13:05:05 GMT
He doesn’t want to go, fair play to him. Hope he holds firm.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 13:10:16 GMT
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Post by milton58 on Feb 1, 2024 13:10:16 GMT
I personally think it’s bullshit. 2+2=5. The guy we are after seems to play more out wide that centrally, so why would we get rid of our primary central striker knowing that our reserve is out the door in the summer? Because we have two better options in the u-21s so why isn't ss playing them
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 13:16:45 GMT
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 1, 2024 13:16:45 GMT
He doesn’t want to go, fair play to him. Hope he holds firm. I applaud him for wanting to stay, but he needs to pull his socks up if he wants to be successful in this country.
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Post by noustie on Feb 1, 2024 13:22:01 GMT
Should definitely stay binning him off after half a season don't make sense...give him a season at least I defo think there's a player in there and in the right set-up will score goals for someone - probably won't be us but I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if he was a success at his next club if he did move on.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 13:23:16 GMT
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Post by spiderpuss on Feb 1, 2024 13:23:16 GMT
Interesting where we are inviting offers, have we already chucked the towel in? If so, yet more shit recruitment.
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Post by baconburger on Feb 1, 2024 13:30:06 GMT
wasn't it under £2m with add ons? No Definitely was €2M up front plus another €2M in add ons. £1.75M with a max of around £3.5M depending on the exchange rate at the time they fall due.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 13:38:36 GMT
Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 13:38:36 GMT
Because we have two better options in the u-21s Yes yes, the mighty Lowe and Tezgel. The same Tezgel whose leg drops off as soon as he plays against a grown up. If SS was serious about playing Tezgel, don’t you think that they would have had him in the squad? He doesn't want to risk youth until the team is reasinably safe. A bit like a lot of other managers.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 13:39:26 GMT
Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 13:39:26 GMT
Because we have two better options in the u-21s so why isn't ss playing them because he's playing Campbell and Mmaae.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 13:42:16 GMT
I've seen nothing to convince me he'll 'come good.'
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 13:42:45 GMT
Yes yes, the mighty Lowe and Tezgel. The same Tezgel whose leg drops off as soon as he plays against a grown up. If SS was serious about playing Tezgel, don’t you think that they would have had him in the squad? He doesn't want to risk youth until the team is reasinably safe. A bit like a lot of other managers. So, to summarize: I’ve said that it doesn’t make sense that we would get rid of our main striker. You’ve responded that it does because we have better in the U21’s. However, we’ve not used them because we don’t want to risk them? So then, why would we get rid of our main striker for players we are not going to risk using? Perhaps we’ll use Baker as a 9?
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 13:47:47 GMT
Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 13:47:47 GMT
He doesn't want to risk youth until the team is reasinably safe. A bit like a lot of other managers. So, to summarize: I’ve said that it doesn’t make sense that we would get rid of our main striker. You’ve responded that it does because we have better in the U21’s. However, we’ve not used them because we don’t want to risk them? So then, why would we get rid of our main striker for players we are not going to risk using? Perhaps we’ll use Baker as a 9? Because they'll be slightlt older in the summer and there is no/relatively little risk playing them when a new season begins, after they've had a pre season training and playing friendlies with the team .
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 13:52:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 13:52:20 GMT
So, to summarize: I’ve said that it doesn’t make sense that we would get rid of our main striker. You’ve responded that it does because we have better in the U21’s. However, we’ve not used them because we don’t want to risk them? So then, why would we get rid of our main striker for players we are not going to risk using? Perhaps we’ll use Baker as a 9? Because they'll be slightlt older in the summer and there is no/relatively little risk playing them when a new season begins, after they've had a pre season training and playing friendlies with the team . We have 4 months until the end of the season. Why would we let Mmaee go now in the HOPE that Lowe and Tezgel step up next season?
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Post by Northy on Feb 1, 2024 13:53:03 GMT
The only hope we have of shifting Wesley (and maybe Gayle) is if Saudi are interested and we cancel the contracts by mutual agreement and they then become a free agent. Even then, and even in Saudi Arabia, I don't see any club at all matching the money they are currently on. So, I don't see why they would even entertain such a thing when they are free agents anyway in 4 months and they can get 500k-1million richer in the meantime. Saudi Arabia probably would match it and a fair bit more, we can only hope Wesley is offered something and he goes off into the Arabian sunset.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 13:53:28 GMT
Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 13:53:28 GMT
Because they'll be slightlt older in the summer and there is no/relatively little risk playing them when a new season begins, after they've had a pre season training and playing friendlies with the team . We have 4 months until the end of the season. Why would we let Mmaee go now in the HOPE that Lowe and Tezgel step up next season? Why would we keep him?
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 1, 2024 13:53:46 GMT
Personally I'd still give Mmaee time as there's clearly a player there. He doesn't seem to be a lone striker type player, though and that could be where he's struggling to find form. I guess we may also be looking to move him on as he isn't settling in to life in the Championship in this Country. Ultimately it's down to him, the manager of the time and any potentially interested Clubs.
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Post by jokker on Feb 1, 2024 13:59:14 GMT
Personally I'd still give Mmaee time as there's clearly a player there. He doesn't seem to be a lone striker type player, though and that could be where he's struggling to find form. I guess we may also be looking to move him on as he isn't settling in to life in the Championship in this Country. Ultimately it's down to him, the manager of the time and any potentially interested Clubs. I tend to agree, there's been games where he's been absolutely starved of service, but looking at the facts he's played 20 games scored 3, if we are going to continue playing with a lone striker, do we really believe his luck is going to change? I've just realised he played for my local SL team, AGF (not one that I support) for one season, playing 9 games scoring 0. I honestly never knew he was here.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 14:00:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 14:00:40 GMT
We have 4 months until the end of the season. Why would we let Mmaee go now in the HOPE that Lowe and Tezgel step up next season? Why would we keep him? Ugh. Because we don’t have a replacement for the remaining 17 games. Also, because he’s been here for half a season in a disjointed attack and a loan to some random club in Turkey isn’t going to do much for Stoke’s finances.
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Mmaee
Feb 1, 2024 14:06:50 GMT
Post by idle on Feb 1, 2024 14:06:50 GMT
Ugh. Because we don’t have a replacement for the remaining 17 games. Also, because he’s been here for half a season in a disjointed attack and a loan to some random club in Turkey isn’t going to do much for Stoke’s finances. Maybe I'm off here, but isn't part of why we are inviting offers that we have a replacement striker lines up? I'd keep him anyway of course, cause the (several)Million dollar man has pace and trickery that would also help Mmaee. A loan to Turkey is just bollocks, how many have come back from there in better form? Turkey is just a stop on the way to oblivion for footballers. Plus it's a risk they never pay their bills. It has happened many times, both fees and wages.
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