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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 20, 2024 18:59:27 GMT
But he's shown that with the touches he can create goalscoring opportunities. I see him as a false nine type, with proper goalscorers playing off him. He's absolutely not a goalscorer or a player who you want leading the line. But he’s up there to score goals If he’s not going to score goals who is I get what your saying about a false nine but at the minute he’s our main striker He is but he's being played out of position or in a role that doesn't suit him. If we stuck Bonham up front and he didn't score, we wouldn't complain even though he'd be there to score goals. He'd be forgiven for being played in a role that doesn't suit him. The same applies for Mmaee. Stick goalscorers alongside Mmaee and we'd get the best out of him. There's definitely some ability there.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 20, 2024 19:02:28 GMT
But he’s up there to score goals If he’s not going to score goals who is I get what your saying about a false nine but at the minute he’s our main striker He is but he's being played out of position or in a role that doesn't suit him. If we stuck Bonham up front and he didn't score, we wouldn't complain even though he'd be there to score goals. He'd be forgiven for being played in a role that doesn't suit him. The same applies for Mmaee. Stick goalscorers alongside Mmaee and we'd get the best out of him. There's definitely some ability there. Your probably right I’m just praying we get a goalscorer in the next 10 days Otherwise it’s not going to be good
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 20, 2024 19:06:59 GMT
He is but he's being played out of position or in a role that doesn't suit him. If we stuck Bonham up front and he didn't score, we wouldn't complain even though he'd be there to score goals. He'd be forgiven for being played in a role that doesn't suit him. The same applies for Mmaee. Stick goalscorers alongside Mmaee and we'd get the best out of him. There's definitely some ability there. Your probably right I’m just praying we get a goalscorer in the next 10 days Otherwise it’s not going to be good Same here. I do think that if we use Mmaee right and put the right players around him we'll score goals. Mama wasn't a goalscorer but he made others around him better. Sunlm of all parts and all that.
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Jan 20, 2024 19:15:08 GMT
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Post by ceejays on Jan 20, 2024 19:15:08 GMT
We don’t play a no 10 anymore nor a false nine so I can’t see us playing two up top
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Post by snoogle on Jan 20, 2024 19:22:17 GMT
He’s absolute dog shi*t One of the worst strikers I’ve ever seen with his back to goal , fella has rubber feet, everything bounces off him, awful in the air, nowhere near quick enough to get in behind , zero hold up play, absolutely bone idle , makes Campbell look like the Duracell Bunny, the odd flick here and there doesn’t make him a player ..useless
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Jan 20, 2024 19:40:10 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 20, 2024 19:40:10 GMT
I think it would help all our forwards if we got the ball forward quicker. We may be quicker than we were, but still too often we choose to play it along the back instead of taking a chance on ( a longer) the through ball....against Birmingham just providing a 50/50 might have paid off.By time we get there it is much too crowded. Centre halves, when in possession, who could move forward quickly, 10 or 15 yards with the ball, when space allows would also help.
I think MMaee would be better in a front two with Campbell....whether he is a success at Stoke remains to be seen... it might be thst he IS a good player....but not here. At the moment , for whatever reasons, he isn't scoring and we need someone to do that
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Jan 20, 2024 19:41:14 GMT
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 20, 2024 19:41:14 GMT
He’s absolute dog shi*t One of the worst strikers I’ve ever seen with his back to goal , fella has rubber feet, everything bounces off him, awful in the air, nowhere near quick enough to get in behind , zero hold up play, absolutely bone idle , makes Campbell look like the Duracell Bunny, the odd flick here and there doesn’t make him a player ..useless Tell me you haven't watched Mmaee without saying it. Everyone knows you're talking shit as soon as they see "Gary Hackett likes this".
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 20, 2024 20:00:44 GMT
He’s absolute dog shi*t One of the worst strikers I’ve ever seen with his back to goal , fella has rubber feet, everything bounces off him, awful in the air, nowhere near quick enough to get in behind , zero hold up play, absolutely bone idle , makes Campbell look like the Duracell Bunny, the odd flick here and there doesn’t make him a player ..useless Tell me you haven't watched Mmaee without saying it. Everyone knows you're talking shit as soon as they see "Gary Hackett likes this". Mate he was crap today. I've backed him to this point. I excused him being crap because the service up to him has been appalling but today he had at least 2 gilt edged chances which he fluffed and 2 or three other half chances which..........he also fluffed. He had chances today and was still crap. Whether he's a forward or a defender he should have buried those two chances today. He did little else of any value in the game and I've just seen the highlights and he ducked out of the way of the ball on the end of the wall for their second as well. Totally unforgivable.
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Jan 20, 2024 20:04:00 GMT
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 20, 2024 20:04:00 GMT
Tell me you haven't watched Mmaee without saying it. Everyone knows you're talking shit as soon as they see "Gary Hackett likes this". Mate he was crap today. I've backed him to this point. I excused him being crap because the service up to him has been appalling but today he had at least 2 gilt edged chances which he fluffed and 2 or three other half chances which..........he also fluffed. He had chances today and was still crap. Whether he's a forward or a defender he should have buried those two chances today. He did little else of any value in the game and I've just seen the highlights and he ducked out of the way of the ball on the end of the wall for their second as well. Totally unforgivable. I haven't said that we wasn't crap have I? He should've buried that chance second half. What I don't buy is this whole "hE's FuCkInG sHiT" bollocks. He creates chances, he's not a lead the line player.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 20, 2024 20:04:56 GMT
There's nothing wrong with him. Today was the first time I can honestly say that he should have buried a chance. It's fcuking January. He's been here 6 months or more! His interplay with Campbell was good and the telling point was when he went off. It killed us as an attacking unit. We created nothing of note after a good spell of football once Baker was taken off and Campbell put in amongst him. His first half chance was just the story of our season. A striker having to break a halfway line offside trap and run half the pitch to get a chance. Back him. He'll come good. The bigger worry is the dearth of creativity from wide and the two 8s. There's just nothing there at all. All forwards miss chances (and he has missed some good ones prior to today) but the 3rd concerned me, as a forward you have to pounce on that 6 yards out, not stick your toe at it and see what happens. Was a very timid effort. We created quite a few chances today, enough to win the game easily and far more than the opposition.
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Jan 20, 2024 20:06:36 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 20, 2024 20:06:36 GMT
We don’t play a no 10 anymore nor a false nine so I can’t see us playing two up top Managers need to be open to change, if two up top gets us the goals and results we need then it has to be done.
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Jan 20, 2024 20:08:11 GMT
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Post by xnfourt on Jan 20, 2024 20:08:11 GMT
He is absolutely dog shit
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jan 20, 2024 20:16:14 GMT
Just don't see him ever coming good for us. Had the chances and missed. Just ultimately isn't good enough. Again. Why is it so hard for us to find a decent striker?
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jan 20, 2024 20:18:52 GMT
I like him. But today he was shit
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Jan 20, 2024 20:19:47 GMT
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Post by stokest5 on Jan 20, 2024 20:19:47 GMT
But he’s up there to score goals If he’s not going to score goals who is I get what your saying about a false nine but at the minute he’s our main striker He is but he's being played out of position or in a role that doesn't suit him. If we stuck Bonham up front and he didn't score, we wouldn't complain even though he'd be there to score goals. He'd be forgiven for being played in a role that doesn't suit him. The same applies for Mmaee. Stick goalscorers alongside Mmaee and we'd get the best out of him. There's definitely some ability there. I fail to see how playing Bonham has a striker is the same has playing Mmaee has a striker? Ridiculous comparison. An offensive player should be able to offer at least something in any attacking position. Look at Mmaee highlights reel before he came here he’s scoring all kinds of goals taking players in left right and centre at a lower level. So far what he’s show here is he’s not cut out for the championship.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 20, 2024 20:25:05 GMT
He is but he's being played out of position or in a role that doesn't suit him. If we stuck Bonham up front and he didn't score, we wouldn't complain even though he'd be there to score goals. He'd be forgiven for being played in a role that doesn't suit him. The same applies for Mmaee. Stick goalscorers alongside Mmaee and we'd get the best out of him. There's definitely some ability there. I fail to see how playing Bonham has a striker is the same has playing Mmaee has a striker? Ridiculous comparison. An offensive player should be able to offer at least something in any attacking position. Look at Mmaee highlights reel before he came here he’s scoring all kinds of goals taking players in left right and centre at a lower level. So far what he’s show here is he’s not cut out for the championship. It's not a ridiculous comparison if you understand roles. You say that an offensive player should be able to offer at least something in any attacking position. He created Campbells chance today and Goochs chance away at Birmingham so yeah, he offers something based on your logic. He's been in this league for 6 months and not been fully fit for a good chunk of that time. He's proven to me that he's cut out for this level in a role that doesn't suit him. Imagine how good he'll be in a role that does suit him.
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Post by onyourbonce on Jan 20, 2024 20:25:08 GMT
Don’t rate him. Whilst he might not be “wank”, he’s got the odd decent flick in him……he is nowhere near good enough for this level. And absolutely nothing I’ve seen from him can convince me otherwise. Think a lot of stoke fans say he will come good n make excuses of his role etc cus they are desperate for it to work, he cost a few bob n there was abit of excitement around him, but il tell you now it won’t work. The bloke isn’t good enough. And his lack of enthusiasm n work rate is scary, looks like he’d rather be anywhere else but out on that pitch
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Post by spoton on Jan 20, 2024 20:26:36 GMT
He’s absolute dog shi*t One of the worst strikers I’ve ever seen with his back to goal , fella has rubber feet, everything bounces off him, awful in the air, nowhere near quick enough to get in behind , zero hold up play, absolutely bone idle , makes Campbell look like the Duracell Bunny, the odd flick here and there doesn’t make him a player ..useless I couldn't agree more what I've been saying for weeks
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Jan 20, 2024 20:27:01 GMT
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 20, 2024 20:27:01 GMT
Don’t rate him. Whilst he might not be “wank”, he’s got the odd decent flick in him……he is nowhere near good enough for this level. And absolutely nothing I’ve seen from him can convince me otherwise. Think a lot of stoke fans say he will come good n make excuses of his role etc cus they are desperate for it to work, he cost a few bob n there was abit of excitement around him, but il tell you now it won’t work. The bloke isn’t good enough. And his lack of enthusiasm n work rate is scary, looks like he’d rather be anywhere else but out on that pitch It's got fuck all to do with being desperate for it to work, it's a fact that he isn't a lead a line striker and that's how he's being played.
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Jan 20, 2024 20:27:28 GMT
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 20, 2024 20:27:28 GMT
He’s absolute dog shi*t One of the worst strikers I’ve ever seen with his back to goal , fella has rubber feet, everything bounces off him, awful in the air, nowhere near quick enough to get in behind , zero hold up play, absolutely bone idle , makes Campbell look like the Duracell Bunny, the odd flick here and there doesn’t make him a player ..useless I couldn't agree more what I've been saying for weeks And you're wrong. Which is ironic given your username is "spoton".
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 20, 2024 20:32:33 GMT
We don’t play a no 10 anymore nor a false nine so I can’t see us playing two up top We ended up with two up today - Campbell and Mmaee then Campbell and Lowe. We were at our best with Campbell and Mmaee. Helped to make more space in midfield as well with Leris and Bae out wide.
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Post by spoton on Jan 20, 2024 20:33:30 GMT
I couldn't agree more what I've been saying for weeks And you're wrong. Which is ironic given your username is "spoton". We will see, today he cost us a decent striker would have put away one of his chances today if Gayle had missed them you would give him hell
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Post by baconburger on Jan 20, 2024 20:35:16 GMT
I fail to see how playing Bonham has a striker is the same has playing Mmaee has a striker? Ridiculous comparison. An offensive player should be able to offer at least something in any attacking position. Look at Mmaee highlights reel before he came here he’s scoring all kinds of goals taking players in left right and centre at a lower level. So far what he’s show here is he’s not cut out for the championship. It's not a ridiculous comparison if you understand roles. You say that an offensive player should be able to offer at least something in any attacking position. He created Campbells chance today and Goochs chance away at Birmingham so yeah, he offers something based on your logic. He's been in this league for 6 months and not been fully fit for a good chunk of that time. He's proven to me that he's cut out for this level in a role that doesn't suit him. Imagine how good he'll be in a role that does suit him. There there. You just keep on trying to convince yourself. He’s lazy, he’s dozy, he’s half arsed, he’s slow to react and slow of foot.Yet desperate people keep wanting to see something that isn’t there. Best we make sure non of them add ons get triggered whilst that permeates a few hard noggins.
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Jan 20, 2024 20:37:41 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Jan 20, 2024 20:37:41 GMT
I couldn't agree more what I've been saying for weeks And you're wrong. Which is ironic given your username is "spoton". Maybe you should change yours to howlin at the moon.
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Post by lordb on Jan 20, 2024 20:38:53 GMT
Really fucked off with him today Should have had a hat trick
Guess that's £1.75m gets you nice footballer, when things come off for him he looks classy
But he doesn’t score, he's not a threat to the opposition
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Jan 20, 2024 20:39:11 GMT
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Post by stokest5 on Jan 20, 2024 20:39:11 GMT
I fail to see how playing Bonham has a striker is the same has playing Mmaee has a striker? Ridiculous comparison. An offensive player should be able to offer at least something in any attacking position. Look at Mmaee highlights reel before he came here he’s scoring all kinds of goals taking players in left right and centre at a lower level. So far what he’s show here is he’s not cut out for the championship. It's not a ridiculous comparison if you understand roles. You say that an offensive player should be able to offer at least something in any attacking position. He created Campbells chance today and Goochs chance away at Birmingham so yeah, he offers something based on your logic. He's been in this league for 6 months and not been fully fit for a good chunk of that time. He's proven to me that he's cut out for this level in a role that doesn't suit him. Imagine how good he'll be in a role that does suit him. Yeah I mean offer something credible over the season he’s lucky to get 5/10 so far. What role does suit him then because he’s worse out on the wing than he is in the middle. Their first goal today if that was roles reversed. He wouldn’t have scored that when put through. Look at his highlights reel the role he player there isn’t to dissimilar to what we see him here he’s just not been able to step that level up.
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Post by baconburger on Jan 20, 2024 20:40:58 GMT
Really fucked off with him today Should have had a hat trick Guess that's £1.75m gets you nice footballer, when things come off for him he looks classy But he doesn’t score, he's not a threat to the opposition He doesn’t work defenders, he doesn’t create fatigue in the opposition either mental or physical.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 20, 2024 20:45:46 GMT
I like him, but he rarely affects the game. There’s been a lot of games where he hasn’t really been helped by the way we’ve played; no excuses today.
He could have easily had a hat trick.
I can accept he isn’t suited to being a lone striker, but that is no excuse for such poor finishing. I would expect any of our outfield players to have taken at least one of the chances he fluffed today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2024 20:48:12 GMT
I've seen a number of CHs with a cigar on, up against Mmaee this season. He's just too easy to shut out.
Not particularly quick, not particularly physical, not particularly big, not great in the air, doesn't have a natural knack for goalscoring.
Other than all that - he's great.
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Post by idle on Jan 20, 2024 20:49:32 GMT
It's not a ridiculous comparison if you understand roles. You say that an offensive player should be able to offer at least something in any attacking position. He created Campbells chance today and Goochs chance away at Birmingham so yeah, he offers something based on your logic. He's been in this league for 6 months and not been fully fit for a good chunk of that time. He's proven to me that he's cut out for this level in a role that doesn't suit him. Imagine how good he'll be in a role that does suit him. There there. You just keep on trying to convince yourself. He’s lazy, he’s dozy, he’s half arsed, he’s slow to react and slow of foot.Yet desperate people keep wanting to see something that isn’t there. Best we make sure non of them add ons get triggered whilst that permeates a few hard noggins. "Lazy", "dozy", "half-arsed" - the calling sign for the brainless "runs-around-a-lot" striker yet again. He was poor today, as players from most positions should've scored two from all his chances, but he did create quite a few chances for others like SRF is saying. I don't see the lazy part, he just isn't a target man or a run into space striker. I thought he was good when Campbell came on, but then Campbell stopped making those runs and he was taken off. It doesn't that mean I wouldn't welcome another striker coming in, as long as he's another player type. I'm sure a real inside forward (not the tesco vidigal one) would benefit a lot from playing with Mmaee. Poku might be one of those, we'll see.
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