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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 8:38:03 GMT
We are all wanting Bae and Junior starting but if we're honest it's all on very limited knowledge of their abilities at this level.
Bae is coming from a completely different culture and unknown football level. Junior is stepping up two levels in this country which is a huge jump.
Is it just because they are the new shiny and exciting toys?
People will point to Junior's performance at Leicester and Bae's cameos as evidence but how often have we seen a young player look like a world beater on their first performance only to drop off drastically in subsequent games. DWP instantly springs to mind.
Patience is the order of the day.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 13, 2023 10:02:01 GMT
Fair enough mate I didn't read that far up to be fair. The rest still stands though. As does what I’ve said. Ince is/was a better player. I just look at things as if I was playing in a team with Ince and in a team with Johnson. I know that I'd prefer to have Johnson on my team who doesn't hide when the going gets tough and shit out of fifty fifty tackles mate. That doesn't mean I'm right ofcourse as it is about opinions. |
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Post by etebojan on Nov 13, 2023 10:12:59 GMT
I think Bae has shown enough from his cameos that maybe we could give him a start to see if that gives us a bit more of the attacking spark and intensity that we seem to be lacking early on in games. We can always then sub Johnson back in on 60 mins, or earlier if its really not working. I am confident that Bae can do the press and also do the defensive work from the front as he displayed multiple times, not least, his absolutely magnificent and beautifully timed sliding tackle, which stopped a counter attack and also started one of our own.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 13, 2023 10:18:06 GMT
Playing an over the hill Preston mainstay over an exciting 20 year old prospect is absolutely mind boggling. This manager has the tendency to be safe, hence he'll play what he knows all day long. I'd have Johnson in any team over that shithouse Ince, who despite having ability, is one of the biggest tossers ever to don the red and white. Absolute coward. For clarity, I don't rate Johnson either. |
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Post by greystokie on Nov 13, 2023 10:18:37 GMT
We are all wanting Bae and Junior starting but if we're honest it's all on very limited knowledge of their abilities at this level. Bae is coming from a completely different culture and unknown football level. Junior is stepping up two levels in this country which is a huge jump. Is it just because they are the new shiny and exciting toys? People will point to Junior's performance at Leicester and Bae's cameos as evidence but how often have we seen a young player look like a world beater on their first performance only to drop off drastically in subsequent games. DWP instantly springs to mind. Patience is the order of the day. I could go along with that if Hoever and Johnson were playing reasonably well but they're not. It's well worth giving the new lads a start to see if they can influence the game. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 10:27:45 GMT
Back in the summer people were roundly abused on here for daring to suggest Alex Neil favours kickers and runners in his midfield over creative ball players.
Players like Johnson and Pritchard were held up as examples of creative players that Neil is prepared to use. Laughable.
At Preston he built a midfield of Pearson, Browne and Johnson. Stodge personified. The messageboard was told unilaterally that he only built that midfield because of a lack of a decent budget there.
He has the tools here but seemingly doesn't want to use them.
Haksabanovic and Jun-Ho walk in any team in this division that is coached by a FOOTBALL based coach yet despite the attacking part of the team looking as limp as a 30 day old cabbage, neither player can get a decent run in the team.
Can Neil change the habit of a lifetime and use the creative players he has been handed on a plate?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 13, 2023 10:55:39 GMT
Back in the summer people were roundly abused on here for daring to suggest Alex Neil favours kickers and runners in his midfield over creative ball players. Players like Johnson and Pritchard were held up as examples of creative players that Neil is prepared to use. Laughable. At Preston he built a midfield of Pearson, Browne and Johnson. Stodge personified. The messageboard was told unilaterally that he only built that midfield because of a lack of a decent budget there. He has the tools here but seemingly doesn't want to use them. Haksabanovic and Jun-Ho walk in any team in this division that is coached by a FOOTBALL based coach yet despite the attacking part of the team looking as limp as a 30 day old cabbage, neither player can get a decent run in the team. Can Neil change the habit of a lifetime and use the creative players he has been handed on a plate? -------Pearson-Burger---------- Leris-------Bae-----Vidigal/Haks -----------Mmaee---------------- Covers all bases in terms of hard graft and technical ability surely? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 11:15:34 GMT
Back in the summer people were roundly abused on here for daring to suggest Alex Neil favours kickers and runners in his midfield over creative ball players. Players like Johnson and Pritchard were held up as examples of creative players that Neil is prepared to use. Laughable. At Preston he built a midfield of Pearson, Browne and Johnson. Stodge personified. The messageboard was told unilaterally that he only built that midfield because of a lack of a decent budget there. He has the tools here but seemingly doesn't want to use them. Haksabanovic and Jun-Ho walk in any team in this division that is coached by a FOOTBALL based coach yet despite the attacking part of the team looking as limp as a 30 day old cabbage, neither player can get a decent run in the team. Can Neil change the habit of a lifetime and use the creative players he has been handed on a plate? -------Pearson-Burger---------- Leris-------Bae-----Vidigal/Haks -----------Mmaee---------------- Covers all bases in terms of hard graft and technical ability surely? Agree with that. Johnson should only be used when we need to press hard against a Leicester, Southampton or a Leeds type side. Against the rest of the dross in this league it should be a side built to create a bucketload of chances. |
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 13, 2023 11:20:10 GMT
Junho actually works hard and gets stuck in, probably more than DJ.
Hopefully he's just easing him in gently and will soon be one of the first names on the teamsheet. I genuinely believe he can be the difference that takes us from mid table mediocrity to pushing for the play offs.
He has a serious look of the Bojans about him always playing on the half turn and looking to make things happen.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 13, 2023 11:31:34 GMT
Junho actually works hard and gets stuck in, probably more than DJ. Hopefully he's just easing him in gently and will soon be one of the first names on the teamsheet. I genuinely believe he can be the difference that takes us from mid table mediocrity to pushing for the play offs. He has a serious look of the Bojans about him always playing on the half turn and looking to make things happen. He definitely works his socks off, I'm not sure he presses as well as Johnson though, as stated above I think Johnson against one of the better teams in the league is perfectly acceptable, when trying to break down a fairly rudimentary, well drilled outfit like Millwall or Cardiff I think Junho would be a better option as long as he's not out wide in a 4-3-3. |
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Post by mcw on Nov 13, 2023 11:51:20 GMT
Junho actually works hard and gets stuck in, probably more than DJ. Hopefully he's just easing him in gently and will soon be one of the first names on the teamsheet. I genuinely believe he can be the difference that takes us from mid table mediocrity to pushing for the play offs. He has a serious look of the Bojans about him always playing on the half turn and looking to make things happen. He definitely works his socks off, I'm not sure he presses as well as Johnson though, as stated above I think Johnson against one of the better teams in the league is perfectly acceptable, when trying to break down a fairly rudimentary, well drilled outfit like Millwall or Cardiff I think Junho would be a better option as long as he's not out wide in a 4-3-3. I think he feels Haks/Jun-Ho are erratic without the ball and is weighing that more heavily than what they bring with the ball. I’m hoping both of them are getting up to speed with his requirements on that side of the game and when they do then they’ll start to play more. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 12:06:25 GMT
Back in the summer people were roundly abused on here for daring to suggest Alex Neil favours kickers and runners in his midfield over creative ball players. Players like Johnson and Pritchard were held up as examples of creative players that Neil is prepared to use. Laughable. At Preston he built a midfield of Pearson, Browne and Johnson. Stodge personified. The messageboard was told unilaterally that he only built that midfield because of a lack of a decent budget there. He has the tools here but seemingly doesn't want to use them. Haksabanovic and Jun-Ho walk in any team in this division that is coached by a FOOTBALL based coach yet despite the attacking part of the team looking as limp as a 30 day old cabbage, neither player can get a decent run in the team. Can Neil change the habit of a lifetime and use the creative players he has been handed on a plate? -------Pearson-Burger---------- Leris-------Bae-----Vidigal/Haks -----------Mmaee---------------- Covers all bases in terms of hard graft and technical ability surely? this is the only way, surely? it's a midfield that on paper would do very, very well in this league. |
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Post by biddulphchav on Nov 13, 2023 14:08:43 GMT
Campbell still has a role to play in this squad, he’s got the turn of pace none of the others posses. He can finish too, but he needs good service, he should really be pushing for a spot in the side.
As for Bae, I like the approach AN is taking. Let the lad bed in slowly, and don’t put too much pressure on him by starting him. The appearances off the bench give him an opportunity to adjust to the physicality and pace of the league, but protect his confidence. Once he’s had 6 months in England I’d be looking to increase his minutes and start him in 3 game weeks. Easy does it with this lad. Junior I feel is ready, even though Hoever is class at this level, he’s not our player and Junior needs games.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 13, 2023 19:04:42 GMT
Campbell still has a role to play in this squad, he’s got the turn of pace none of the others posses. He can finish too, but he needs good service, he should really be pushing for a spot in the side. As for Bae, I like the approach AN is taking. Let the lad bed in slowly, and don’t put too much pressure on him by starting him. The appearances off the bench give him an opportunity to adjust to the physicality and pace of the league, but protect his confidence. Once he’s had 6 months in England I’d be looking to increase his minutes and start him in 3 game weeks. Easy does it with this lad. Junior I feel is ready, even though Hoever is class at this level, he’s not our player and Junior needs games. He's not interested, he's leaving on a free in the summer. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 13, 2023 19:21:08 GMT
Campbell still has a role to play in this squad, he’s got the turn of pace none of the others posses. He can finish too, but he needs good service, he should really be pushing for a spot in the side. As for Bae, I like the approach AN is taking. Let the lad bed in slowly, and don’t put too much pressure on him by starting him. The appearances off the bench give him an opportunity to adjust to the physicality and pace of the league, but protect his confidence. Once he’s had 6 months in England I’d be looking to increase his minutes and start him in 3 game weeks. Easy does it with this lad. Junior I feel is ready, even though Hoever is class at this level, he’s not our player and Junior needs games. He's not interested, he's leaving on a free in the summer. Rangers or Celtic? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 19:31:13 GMT
Campbell still has a role to play in this squad, he’s got the turn of pace none of the others posses. He can finish too, but he needs good service, he should really be pushing for a spot in the side. As for Bae, I like the approach AN is taking. Let the lad bed in slowly, and don’t put too much pressure on him by starting him. The appearances off the bench give him an opportunity to adjust to the physicality and pace of the league, but protect his confidence. Once he’s had 6 months in England I’d be looking to increase his minutes and start him in 3 game weeks. Easy does it with this lad. Junior I feel is ready, even though Hoever is class at this level, he’s not our player and Junior needs games. He's not interested, he's leaving on a free in the summer. He'd best get interested if he wants a decent gig next up. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 20:13:20 GMT
He's not interested, he's leaving on a free in the summer. He'd best get interested if he wants a decent gig next up. Unfortunately, he just wants to be not injured and leave on a Bosman free, pocket a big signing on fee and be set up for Life Hopefully an easy gig like squad player with Rangers or Celtic. He would love it ...70 percent possession, lots of chances and lots of opponents poor enough to allow him to cut into his left foot again and again and again. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 20:47:52 GMT
He'd best get interested if he wants a decent gig next up. Unfortunately, he just wants to be not injured and leave on a Bosman free, pocket a big signing on fee and be set up for Life Hopefully an easy gig like squad player with Rangers or Celtic. He would love it ...70 percent possession, lots of chances and lots of opponents poor enough to allow him to cut into his left foot again and again and again. Who's stupid enough to pay a big signing on fee for a player who has done very little since coming back from a serious injury? Rangers or Celtic won't waste a big part of their budget on Campbell. Unless he starts playing again and showing some form he'll be lucky to get a decent contract anywhere. |
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 13, 2023 20:54:36 GMT
Exactly this. Junho should play in those games where we don't need to be as reliant upon the press. If he presses well in those games then he can start to feature more because individually he looks more threatening than Johnson. Think Johnson has been fairly similar to Smallbone last season, Smallbone pressed slightly better but wasn't as good technically on the ball. Smallbone was miles better than Johnson Johnson is a pass side ways or pass back player 95% of the time his set pieces are poor and bar one or two games he's been massively disappointing for me. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 13, 2023 23:34:11 GMT
He's not interested, he's leaving on a free in the summer. He'd best get interested if he wants a decent gig next up. Not really, he knows he can get a move, the main thing for him is to make sure he's not injured when it happens. I've been one of his biggest fans but its pointless trying to build anything around him now. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 14, 2023 0:07:00 GMT
Junho actually works hard and gets stuck in, probably more than DJ. Hopefully he's just easing him in gently and will soon be one of the first names on the teamsheet. I genuinely believe he can be the difference that takes us from mid table mediocrity to pushing for the play offs. He has a serious look of the Bojans about him always playing on the half turn and looking to make things happen. He definitely works his socks off, I'm not sure he presses as well as Johnson though, as stated above I think Johnson against one of the better teams in the league is perfectly acceptable, when trying to break down a fairly rudimentary, well drilled outfit like Millwall or Cardiff I think Junho would be a better option as long as he's not out wide in a 4-3-3. I think the press is one of the things he is learning about and a good understanding of when to press is essential to that attacking midfield role in Neil's team. Johnson leads the press which Jun-ho couldn't do at the moment. |
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Post by biddulphchav on Nov 15, 2023 9:04:48 GMT
He'd best get interested if he wants a decent gig next up. Not really, he knows he can get a move, the main thing for him is to make sure he's not injured when it happens. I've been one of his biggest fans but its pointless trying to build anything around him now. How do you know this? Genuine question |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 2, 2024 15:42:54 GMT
Hell of a player.
Great strength and fantastic finish!
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Post by stokieben28 on Mar 2, 2024 15:47:12 GMT
Not sure about the earcupping but I let him off, he was asking SouthStand boys to sing his chant louder!! My favourite player, sign him up on a 10 year contract. Sexy footballer, love him  💓💓 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2024 15:50:14 GMT
X10000 extra bonus points for shrugging that rat Ayling off
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Post by thisisouryear on Mar 2, 2024 15:54:03 GMT
A great goal, taken really quickly which shows he has a strikers instincts.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Mar 2, 2024 15:56:12 GMT
All he needed to do was find the end product, assist or goal. Fine player.
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Post by southernish on Mar 2, 2024 15:56:23 GMT
Brilliant goal. 2 in 2 as well so hopefully he can hit some form.
Does a lot for the club as an international brand as he has tens of thousands of followers and gives us some exposure in South Korea
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Mar 2, 2024 15:57:16 GMT
Likes a back heel
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Mar 2, 2024 16:03:33 GMT
What a fucking man. Love him
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💓💓 
