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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2023 6:33:03 GMT
What's nonsense about it. Rose and Wilmot are similar players. Neither are particularly strong in the air but both mobile and progressive passers. If McNally comes in one of them will be on the bench and at this moment it could easily be Wilmot. Rose snd wilmot start Saturday 100% in my view places are theirs , McNally will play v WBA I'm talking about over the season not just the first game and Saturday maybe is too soon for McNally. If he's done and dusted today I wouldn't bet against him playing though due to Rotherham's aerial threat. Long term Wilmot may well get the nod as his partner. He has the goodwill from last season but I think it's close between him and Rose.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 1, 2023 7:15:07 GMT
Wilmott is one of the best centre backs in the Championship, the defense will be built around him.
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 1, 2023 7:27:45 GMT
Wilmott is one of the best centre backs in the Championship, the defense will be built around him. Can you not remember some of the awful mistakes he made leading to goals early on last season? He did improve as the season went on, but don't you think that you are over egging it slightly?
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 1, 2023 7:35:14 GMT
Wilmott is one of the best centre backs in the Championship, the defense will be built around him. Can you not remember some of the awful mistakes he made leading to goals early on last season? He did improve as the season went on, but don't you think that you are over egging it slightly? Not at all, gets unjustified criticism from some. Carried a pensioner and played on the left side for most of last season and even full back. Fortunately AN rates him very highly.
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Post by st3mark on Aug 1, 2023 7:37:17 GMT
I like Wilmot but we signed him because he was 5th choice at Watford.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 1, 2023 7:40:48 GMT
Can you not remember some of the awful mistakes he made leading to goals early on last season? He did improve as the season went on, but don't you think that you are over egging it slightly? Not at all, gets unjustified criticism from some. Carried a pensioner and played on the left side for most of last season and even full back. Fortunately AN rates him very highly. If McNally signs I still think Wilmot will be played on the left side, in fact that is probably why he will be picked before Rose.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 1, 2023 7:59:36 GMT
Wilmott is one of the best centre backs in the Championship, the defense will be built around him. Behave.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 1, 2023 8:03:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2023 8:04:10 GMT
My inside contacts tell me this deal has been completed
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Post by uknorse on Aug 1, 2023 8:14:51 GMT
Can you not remember some of the awful mistakes he made leading to goals early on last season? He did improve as the season went on, but don't you think that you are over egging it slightly? Not at all, gets unjustified criticism from some. Carried a pensioner and played on the left side for most of last season and even full back. Fortunately AN rates him very highly. Carried a pensioner?..... check the stats for both from last season.... they were pretty much identical... wilmot is an OK championship defender.... nothing more... nothing less...the fact jags was pretty much a nailed on starter for us... fitness permitting.... speaks volumes about how short we were on quality last season
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 1, 2023 8:16:36 GMT
What's nonsense about it. Rose and Wilmot are similar players. Neither are particularly strong in the air but both mobile and progressive passers. If McNally comes in one of them will be on the bench and at this moment it could easily be Wilmot. One thing not often appreciated about Wilmot that marks him out from both McNally and Rose is that he's extremely good at carrying the ball forward, especially into the attacking third. That is a vital quality for a high press approach and playing on the front foot. And in fact, last season Wilmot passed the ball further than both McNally and Rose, and he won more tackles than Rose. I think those qualities paired with McNally's physical aptitude would make them the first choice CB pairing, with Rose covering or coming in whenever we play a back three.
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Post by kerouac on Aug 1, 2023 8:17:07 GMT
Wilmott is one of the best centre backs in the Championship, the defense will be built around him. He really isn’t.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 1, 2023 8:18:53 GMT
What's nonsense about it. Rose and Wilmot are similar players. Neither are particularly strong in the air but both mobile and progressive passers. If McNally comes in one of them will be on the bench and at this moment it could easily be Wilmot. One thing not often appreciated about Wilmot that marks him out from both McNally and Rose is that he's extremely good at carrying the ball forward, especially into the attacking third. That is a vital quality for a high press approach and playing on the front foot. And in fact, last season Wilmot passed the ball further than both McNally and Rose, and he won more tackles than Rose. I think those qualities paired with McNally's physical aptitude would make them the first choice CB pairing, with Rose covering or coming in whenever we play a back three. Wilmot’s is dodgy as. He’d screw it up so often. Souttar was bloody good at it. Wilmot would try and the further he gets up the pitch the more he looks like he’s about to fall over.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Aug 1, 2023 8:20:18 GMT
I think it will be Mcnally and Wilmot.
Don't forget Wilmot is only 23 and will hopefully only improve.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Aug 1, 2023 8:23:22 GMT
A big season for Ben Wilmot - I fancy him to have a stormer.
If all three stay fit, Wilmot, Rose and McNally are an excellent pool of centre backs at the level. I'd still like one more in as cover and I'd be happy for Taylor to go.
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Post by monkeycat on Aug 1, 2023 8:24:12 GMT
Very good signing
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 1, 2023 8:25:30 GMT
I think it will be Mcnally and Wilmot. Don't forget Wilmot is only 23 and will hopefully only improve. Yeah, definitely looks like McNally and Wilmot as the starters as it stands. But, assuming Taylor goes, the identity of the 4th centre-back (and where they see themselves in the pecking order) will be interesting.
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 1, 2023 8:27:07 GMT
Like this signing. Could also allow us to line up with a back 3. Tymon left, Henry Hoever at right wing back. We're finally building a squad to play a back 3 with wing backs now we're playing 433! 😅🤪 Seriously, is the idea to copy the current vogue, strike the pose, and have Jia as a midfielder full back? I can see Enda playing behind Tymon, McNally is apparently also comfortable as a full back! Liquid football! 😉 I think the tactics will change according to the circumstances depending on opposition, whose fit/in form, etc., and even the state of play, i.e. winning or 2 goals down.
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Post by monkeycat on Aug 1, 2023 8:29:40 GMT
Will be very interesting as the other CB’s being targeted definitely would not be coming to sit on the bench
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 1, 2023 8:31:13 GMT
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Post by george2again on Aug 1, 2023 8:33:12 GMT
Wilmott is one of the best centre backs in the Championship, the defense will be built around him. I think you would be in a minority with that opinion. He’s distinctly average, not great in the air or dominant in any way. I don’t dislike him and he’s pretty quick but no where near top end championship
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 1, 2023 8:33:12 GMT
Wilmott is one of the best centre backs in the Championship, the defense will be built around him. 😂
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Post by questionable on Aug 1, 2023 8:37:09 GMT
Wilmott is one of the best centre backs in the Championship, the defense will be built around him. Behave. Wilmot has a major cock up in his game and honestly I hope we’d be looking at getting better than him in.
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Post by Roy Cropper on Aug 1, 2023 8:39:17 GMT
Wilmot is underrated by a lot of Stoke fans to be fair, he's not one of the best in the league but there aren't tons of <23-year-olds better than him at this level.
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Post by knype on Aug 1, 2023 8:40:01 GMT
Will be very interesting as the other CB’s being targeted definitely would not be coming to sit on the bench Any idea's on names Monkey?
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Post by andystokey on Aug 1, 2023 8:41:54 GMT
Will be very interesting as the other CB’s being targeted definitely would not be coming to sit on the bench Any idea's on names Monkey? I hope one is a left footer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2023 8:42:11 GMT
Will be very interesting as the other CB’s being targeted definitely would not be coming to sit on the bench What's the thinking, that we'll sign one more after McNally giving us a total of four to choose from if Taylor goes?
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 1, 2023 9:02:02 GMT
Wilmott is one of the best centre backs in the Championship, the defense will be built around him. He's possibly not even the best centre-back in our squad, and that's before we signed McNally. 😂 I know he won Player of the Season, but that was the ultimate 'tallest dwarf' competition. I'm not saying he's awful, he isn't, but there's a reason why Watford let him sign for us- he's a very average defender at this level. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Neil had him down as 4th choice. For a team who are serious about promotion, that's probably where he's at.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 1, 2023 9:03:45 GMT
If Chopper's Newcastle and Forest hints are true, Panzo and Lascelles seem the likeliest?
Noone obvious at Newcastle, and they seem very short of centre-backs and he is officially club captain and normally gets on the bench despite playing only 200 mins and being in the last year of his deal?
Panzo could offer a different type of left-back option too? He seems the type we'd go for on a perm. Not sure he'd come for the bench though - was linked with Rangers
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 1, 2023 9:05:49 GMT
Wilmott is one of the best centre backs in the Championship, the defense will be built around him. He's possibly not even the best centre-back in our squad, and that's before we signed McNally. 😂 I know he won Player of the Season, but that was the ultimate 'tallest dwarf' competition. I'm not saying he's awful, he isn't, but there's a reason why Watford let him sign for us- he's a very average defender at this level. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Neil had him down as 4th choice. For a team who are serious about promotion, that's probably where he's at. nail on head.
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